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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 29, 2013 - 12:10am PT
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and you tell us some Lemoore NAS Rescue stories.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 29, 2013 - 12:31am PT
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Nice.
Big wall plucks?
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Oct 29, 2013 - 12:34am PT
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Pavehawk.. sweet ride amazing capabilities. Hell the helmets and goggles are pretty damn cool.
Love to hear any stories The Cheif.
and a shoutout to the 210th ANG.. well it's been reorganizd a bit.. but basically the same
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Oct 29, 2013 - 12:44am PT
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OK cool so That's a Navy spec/op SAR blackhawk platform? I'm sure some nice new stuff has been added since I had any familiarity at all with em 20 years ago
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peladob
Mountain climber
Mason City, Iowa
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Oct 29, 2013 - 10:47am PT
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With pink trim...
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Oct 29, 2013 - 11:00am PT
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Hoped the shop was open so I could introduce myself, but it looked dark.
Seems like you misses an opportunity to get up close and personal with the one and only...shet Burchmeister!
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fluffy
Trad climber
Colorado
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Oct 29, 2013 - 11:04am PT
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is that a bolt-shootin MG?
nice ride!
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 29, 2013 - 11:25am PT
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Black Hawk is way too big to make the tight maneuvers needed in Yosemite Valley helo rescue ops.
They tried in the beginning, but too big.
They're good in open spaces.
The last Lemoore NAS mission here was a disaster.
Lemoore NAS was responsible for many many years of saving lots of lives and support missions to the welfare of the public.
One of the most frightening times was when mactwisted was in the ship in the winter in the sierras during a squall whiteout trying to land and they had no visibility.
Someone said throw a smoke canister out the door to gain visibility of the ground.
They deployed the smoke canister inside the ship and then trying to open the door it was frozen.
Hahaha the ship filled up with orange smoke LOL
They finally got it open ......
Too funny.
There's tons of crazy story's, tooo many .....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 29, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
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Burchey, I'm taking the 5th on that. But if you buy me a fifth I'll talk. :-)
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Maysho
climber
Soda Springs, CA
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Oct 29, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
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Hey Chief, did we meet back in those days? As I recall, two years in a row the Lemoore Crew came up to YMS for a climbing course, when I was chief guide, I worked directly with them and really enjoyed some time on the rock with a great team. I got a tour of the ship one time it was idling in Ahwahnee meadow.
Total respect for you and these rescue professionals..
Peter
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Oct 29, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
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I am really digging this thread. My nephew is a rescue swimmer for the navy, and I am extremely proud and jealous of all the cool stuff he gets to do.
I know it is just everyday stuff for you guys but i am really digging it. More! More! More!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Oct 29, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
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Thanks for the shares. Must be a bit of a trip seeing that ole bird. Seems you saw a lot of changes during your career.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 29, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
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Dare I mention my first rescue was in a Bell 47? <cue the MASH theme song>
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 29, 2013 - 09:36pm PT
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Ron, that must not have been a turbocharged or supercharged rig. They made both but the
turbo rig used a bigger engine than the supercharged one. I would say the one you saw
flailing was neither.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Oct 30, 2013 - 07:09am PT
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hey Chief, we are going to be in your neck of the woods around christmas/new years... want to meet up? we are likely going to joshua tree but will also be in bishop and north for a few days.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Oct 30, 2013 - 09:31am PT
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Hello there The Chief.. Got any graphs to prove you did those rescues...?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 30, 2013 - 09:37am PT
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awesome thread...if it begins to 'devolve.' it's gone.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Oct 30, 2013 - 11:42am PT
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Threads like this are something special.
It's not unusual for folks unfamiliar with SAR folks to say.. that guy shouldn't have been doing whatever it was that they got in trouble doing.
"they are putting rescuers lives in danger" LEO's tend to use that logic on tickets...
Screw that. One of the best thing about being in SAR is getting that callout especially if it involves some manner of climbing or high angle stuff. The callout can come anytime of day or night.. and it IS COMING. WHere will it take you what will you get to do? Very exciting stuff.
Everyone is stoked to go and hoping for a heli-ride. (If like myself you were part of a volunteer organization). Our organization worked and trained closely with the 210th ANG unit they were PJs and once in a great while you might if lucky get a ride in their pavehawk for a mission.
On a rescue the rescuer is responsible for their safety not the victim.
Nothing like the feeling of getting someone out alive when the outcome had some doubt either. And even if it IS a body recovery there is the very real consolation of returning a loved one to their family for that important closure they need.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Oct 30, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
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No kidding. If their weren't any rescues, the guys in the site would start going broke and getting pissed off. You begged to be on a search or rescue.
I only got to do one. That curry guy who fell in the backcountry and busted himself up. Ken Arriza and buddy found him, almost miraculous. I'm not sure if he made it. I heard that he had been without water for so long that he had organs shutting down.
There would be a list, and if you were in the SAR site and took off for a while, you could pick an alternate to take your place. Somebody was always gone. It was the perfect way to hide out and jump my butt off, as I was jumping more than climbing.
Nobody ever told the Tools a peep. I savaged the valley for a full year without getting caught. Even though the statute of limitations has long run out, I won't post the best stories on the web because I'm afraid of the bastards to this day.
I was hounded out of the valley twice, but I could listen to the LEO channel on the SAR pagers and know exactly what they were up to.
Anyway, never got to do one on the big stone. Point being, everyone salivates for a mission. Nobody really cares about the risk at the moment.
Werner has so many stories that he will never tell. Fish and Bill Russell on the other hand have endless gory stories that have been super fine tuned. Too bad you have to talk to them in person. Not for internet discussion.
One saying:
"Vernal Falls always takes the brain."
I would have killed for a gig like the Chief's. One of the cooler jobs possible in the military. I bet it wasn't much fun in Vietnam, though.
If you were climbing in the valley in 1986, and were doing walls, there is a good chance you saw me flying by alone or with somebody from outside.
Whoever climbed Iron Hawk with Troy Johnson saw me fly by and yell hello.
Clark Jacobs was camped at the base of HD and saw me go by solo once.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Oct 30, 2013 - 01:13pm PT
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I think every SAR outfit has a slightly different culture. Certainly there are big differences between military and civilian volunteer groups. The motto "so others may live" cuts across all of em though.
I would love to have been able to try to join the PJs. But that was not possible for me. Always a bit envious and deeply respecting of that outfit. Of their team, capabilities, training and equipment. The military SAR groups are spec forces. They are geared not just for peacetime rescue but to be able to operate in battle with not only a hostile environment to deal with but an intelligent opponent trying to kill them and those they are there to assist. Thats just a whole nuther level of risk beyond...
I'm sure there are things you can't even talk about that would blow minds The Cheif. But we are all ears if you want to tell more stories. Probably better for the real campfire than the anonymous one though.
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