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Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 23, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
Cabelas in Nevada can't / won't sell you any guns if you're a California resident, Mr Milktosat. You can only legally buy a gun in your state of residence.
GLillegard

Social climber
Oregon
Oct 23, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
You would have wasted your gas DMT. You cannot receive a gun over the counter in Nevada as a California Resident from Cabelas. If you want it now you would have to go to a private sale. If your going to comment on the law, best to know what it is.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 23, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
You're right, Mr Anderson.

You can buy the gun in Nevada, but you won't be able to take it home with you. You'll have to take delivery of it at your local gun shop, after being shipped from Nevada to California. Subject to all California waiting periods, background checks, legal specs, etc.
dhayan

climber
los angeles, ca
Oct 23, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
i bet the gun companies are the same companies making the bulletproof white boards...
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Oct 23, 2013 - 12:58pm PT
When I joined the NRA over fifty years ago their magazine might have as a cover a beautiful Parker shotgun on a nest of autumn leaves. Fast forward to current times, with a nasty AR-15 on that same bed of autumn leaves. Look inside. Ads showing hunters wearing camo and boonie caps, even occasionally dark smudges on faces, carrying assault-type flashlights and weapons (not firearms). We live in an increasingly militarized nation, with many Special Ops wanna-be's, including lots of law enforcement. And then Bill O'reilly has as a special guest the SEAL sniper who wrote a best seller and became a national hero. I'm not criticizing the late gentleman - he saved many American lives and we should be thankful for his bravery and skills. But it's all part of an emerging picture of America that makes me uneasy.


.....interesting.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 23, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
Close all schools. That will fix the problem.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 23, 2013 - 01:15pm PT
And am I racist to point out that there seems to be a trend of BLACK YOUTHS killing white people?

Yes.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 23, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
The problem can't be with the guns, as guns don't shoot people by themselves (Usually!!! LOL!)...

Yeah, and the meth problem can't be blamed on the drug, as meth doesn't smoke itself.


But now, we take on other countries low life

ah yes, NOW we take them on... a convenient answer designed to fit into the mental void possessed by all right leaning uneducated wannabe tea bag sniffers.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 23, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
If your going to comment on the law, best to know what it is.

Fair enough.

DMT
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 23, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
It's NOT the drug itself that makes a person CHOOSE that path...

Not true. If meth had undesirable effects on people they would not choose that path. The drug absolutely influences the choice. Obviously it also requires the participant.

Guns have the property of making violent impulses easier to express. They absolutely influence certain people's choices to commit heinous crimes.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 23, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
Jesus.

And if meth didn't have the properties so many find appealing, nobody would choose to continue down that path.

And if guns didn't make it infinitely easier to kill people, nobody would choose guns as their tool of destruction.


Sure, people will get addicted to substances... or snap and have violent episodes. Would you rather they have easy access to coffee and weed, or meth and heroin? Would you rather they swing their fists or a baseball bat or a pipe, or spray bullets into a crowd with an AR-15?


Saying guns aren't the problem because there will always be people who choose to commit violent crimes is ridiculous. Easy access to guns is precisely why there are so many firearm deaths in this country. It ain't rocket science.
Binks

climber
Uranus
Oct 23, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
Gun control is desperately needed. Only the NRA lobby and the bought and paid for politicians keep it from happening when the vast majority of American support it.

My wife is a teacher, so these stories hit close to home.

I really don't care about your right to carry a gun when my family is endangered by it in my opinion.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 23, 2013 - 02:10pm PT
Ron, your fantasy world(s) are obnoxious to say the least. Guns aren't going to be made illegal overnight. How about you try reality for a change?

Currently background checks take about 30 seconds. Don't you think we could do a bit better? Maybe check mental health records? Local LEO reports? The technology exists. I KNOW we can do better.

Currently you can buy 1 new gun a month. The vast majority of guns used in crimes come from straw purchases, likely from folks who buy 1 gun a month. Honestly, who the fuk needs to buy 1 gun a month? I don't know anyone who buys more than 1 gun about every 5 years.

Stop playing your fantasy game of slippery slope strawman tea bagger and start finding some middle ground. Learn to make compromises for other members of society... god knows we all make compromises for you and your kind.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 23, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
ah yes, because growing up in the 60's is just like growing up today. So there isn't a gun problem... the problem is with the Rx drugs? Right! How many people are murdered with Ritalin each year?

I've known plenty of crazy fukers in my life. I guarantee easy access to guns makes them far more dangerous, regardless of guns.



It may take you and your fellow geniuses 45 min to fill out the paper work, but it only takes 30 sec to do the actual background check.

The FFLs will provide the descriptive information requested on the ATF Form 4473, which is required by law to be completed and signed by every prospective firearm transferee. The FFL will receive a response that the transfer may proceed or is delayed. This response is typically provided within 30 seconds.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/general-information/fact-sheet
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 23, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
ahhhh, poor Ronny has to wait 45 min to get his new killing machine. Poor baby... cry me a fuking river. Better yet, cry it for the parents of the victims.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 23, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
I have to wait FORTY FIVE minutes before purchasing my pistola!?

FORTY FIVE MINUTES!!!!111111111

F*#k! The world has gone to sh#t. Back in the 60s? Why, they HANDED you the gun BEFORE YOU ASKED FOR IT!!!!1111111111!!!!!11111111!!!11!!1

DMT
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 23, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
I think it's ten days in California. Which is nine days, twenty-three hours, fifty-nine minutes and thirty seconds longer than necessary.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 23, 2013 - 02:37pm PT
Yeah, 10 days is WAY too long, according to gun nuts who need their penis extensions on a whim.

Sh#t, it takes me longer than that to get a lumber delivery from Lowe's.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 23, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
I've never done a gun deal in my life, that is true.

A dozen countries, 48-states, neighborhoods that would make your blood crawl...



but nary a gun deal.

Admission - I have never OWNED a firearm of any kind. Its not a religious thing for me. I just never needed one.

DMT
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 23, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
Ron, you would bitch & complain if the process took 30 seconds. You know goddam well that's the case...you'd rant & foam about it in a typical Repugnut way, just like most every other political issue.

You, and the rest of the gun-nutz, want to be able to do anything you want, anywhere, anytime, no matter who it might affect. And if someone complains or imposes on this, you barf out memes like 'don't tread on me'.
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