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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 22, 2013 - 01:56pm PT
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GFYS
I mean.....
TFPU! ;-)
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Oct 22, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
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That was funny, Nature.
This sounds like a reggae song.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Oct 22, 2013 - 02:02pm PT
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Utopia, you say?
I'd settle for more climbing content.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 22, 2013 - 02:07pm PT
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1 month head in the sand?
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j-tree
Big Wall climber
Classroom to crag to summer camp
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Oct 22, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
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Maybe a better way to put it is a 1 month ban on attacking and/or nonconstructive comments while still having the ability to post constructive criticism comments.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Oct 22, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
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Apparently he's new around these parts.
Peace out bro, it's all groovy...
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Oct 22, 2013 - 03:52pm PT
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I promise not to tell the world about what a giant wh0re Burch's mom is.
But just November!!!!!
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2013 - 03:57pm PT
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Nature- Ha.
Munge- I think it would lead to a ton more climbing content. 80% of the current OT commentary would be off limits.
Jaybro- No. reason isn't denial. compromise isn't apathy
nrockclimber- Wow, what a great example of positive feedback!
J-tree- Absolutely. I don't think constructive critisism is negative at all.
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Fish Finder
Social climber
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Oct 22, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
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Fukcofftober
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 22, 2013 - 04:50pm PT
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Well put J-tree, now your concept I can get behind!
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2013 - 05:10pm PT
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Jaybro-
They are one in the same. Nothing negative about constructive criticism.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 22, 2013 - 05:54pm PT
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"...a constructive bit of advise to help them."
C not S---just helping out. :)
Building not razing. I get it.
There are several posters here who would follow this advice, but like the farce too much. They won't shut up, either.
"You can't make me, because it's a free internet."
I know, because I am one of them, to an extent, though I am trying to control that impulsive "post it now before some other clown does" attitude.
Just like you can't prevent a dude from nailing a free pitch if he's such an azzhat that he feels it necessary, you can't dictate to the immature youth--they won't listen--or the ancient teenager--who's seen it all--or suggest things which make life better.
Ignore the rules of societal engagement on the personal, face-to-face level with the rock, though, and see how upset these same dooshetards become.
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
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That is a very interesting analogy. There does seem to be an incredible importance to treat the rock and the outdoors in general with a respect that we do not give eachother even when it causes harm.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 22, 2013 - 06:43pm PT
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"Ban"....not a good word to use in the world's oldest democracy. The First Amendment should have more fans than the Second.
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Nemesis
climber
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Oct 22, 2013 - 06:51pm PT
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Dumbest idea I have ever heard.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 22, 2013 - 08:26pm PT
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Jaybro-
They are one in the same. Nothing negative about constructive criticism.
Promise? I've heard this Pollyanna stuff before. Stifling and self censoring, free speech to sound "good" and sweep unpleasant realities under the rug, serves Nobody!
Politeness is cool, though, usually...
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
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yeah man. Pollyanna Harrington would straight up scold people that she didn't agree with... she just wasn't rude or offensive about it. I liked that chick.
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2013 - 09:07pm PT
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That's it. I'm organizing a lantern bike ride...
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abrams
Sport climber
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Oct 22, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
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Ha!
Un-Tye you are way off route making that suggestion.
If I'm unable to righteously vent might as well
go out and harvest some lumber. Which should it be?
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 22, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
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What a stupid remark ^^^
What a stupid thread ......
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2013 - 01:20am PT
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Well it may be a stupid thread... but some of the best threads on here by far are ones like the "show me your woodie" thread. Nothing but awesomeness and nothing to bicker about.
(I reiterate that arguing wouldn't be considered negative as long as it is constructive)
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Oct 23, 2013 - 01:57am PT
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Just do October, it will be over quicker.
Wait is that negative or constructive...?
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Oct 23, 2013 - 02:25am PT
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Ya know what, The Tye, I felt like you do/did here when I first became an ST campfire persona.
Pretty much scared shitless....(excuse me grandkids if you are lurking). But truth is truth and that's how I felt.
It took me a bit to realize that, The Tye, no matter what you post or how many people agree or disagree with you, Dude, you are still a part of the whole here, a part of the party, the community.
The most incredible, wonderful thing about this place is that people that haze ya, raze ya, but Dude they never forsake you. You are the Campfire, the Community.
So don't go all macaroni on us. Just post, and we'll post back. The negative comments aren't about you they are just comments.
Peace, along with joy, lynnie
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Oct 23, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
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Really, Tye, all you can do is to be positive and encouraging yourself. The haters are always going to find a way to hate, just ignore them.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 23, 2013 - 12:30pm PT
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He said negative which is only one side and unbalanced.
Negative MUST always be there and has nothing to do with hate.
It is the opposite of positive,
Impossible to eliminate even on the absolute platform.
Equating hate with negative is just plain stupidity due to poor fund of knowledge.
Duality is truth.
Violence is also opposite of peace.
But doctor creates violence against the body in order to heal.
Doctor will cut (violence) against the body in order for it to once again become whole.
Things are not always what they seem ........
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 23, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
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The word 'negative' suffers from cultural prejudices. Negative G's are waay gud, right?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 23, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
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Well, Ron, most of us aren't of the right stuff to know about Zero G's. ;-)
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
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I guess it falls apart if you take every word literally...
"Negative Comment" is an expression... to me it represents a comment that is:
-spiteful
-counterproductive to the argument being had
-meant to anger or hurt
-an intentional Straw Man arguement (which happens a ton and leads to endless circular arguing)
-etc...
I didn't think about the title of this post as much as the subject matter unfortunately...
But you should get the idea. Not a ban on opposing ideas/yin and yang... but on dealing with those oppositions in the above listed ways...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 23, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
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Tye, without Straw Man arguments few Taco Heads would have a leg to stand on.
But I am overly sensitive as the Khumbaya Police here recently charged me
with 'Harshing The Vibe' when I questioned the propriety of a risky helo
rescue of a guy with only a broken jaw. How could I be so negative as to
question the risking of eight peoples' lives for one with far less than a
life-threatening injury?
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 23, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
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watering this place down!
Water is basic requirement for all life sustainment.
Water will cause rust.
Rust has made locker ......
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
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Well Locker you may very well be right on... ( but I did only say 1 month... as a thought experiment...)
but can you look at a thread like the "poor little joey" thread... that has accumulated 300+ posts in like 3 days.... most of which are people just shouting the same thing back and forth to each other... and think that this is the best way to discuss an issue...? Maybe it's just dandy and I'm just too averse to bitter conflict to appreciate it? That is just fine.
I just like the warm fuzzy feeling of compromise... which happens sometimes without making things a boring, vanilla hell.
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
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Just for the record: I love to argue a good point. Also, this thread has managed to be negative comment free so far :-) at least as far as I can tell...
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
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word
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 23, 2013 - 08:59pm PT
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Man... That's funny because I started to type on that previous comment that I was starting to feel like a whitebread hippy but I erased it because I didn't want to seem like I was backpedaling... So I guess you nailed it.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 23, 2013 - 09:30pm PT
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No negative, huh? This almost always comes from liberals who dislike people that confront their idiotic views, and call them on it.
"Why do you have to be so angry and confrontational?" Because you're making no sense and your ideas never work, despite you thinking you're being sensitive for holding these ideas/ideals.
F*#k off! And don't tell me what I can't say!!!
Feel-good bullsh#t. Sometimes you SHOULD be very angry AND pissed off, you wanker.
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2013 - 12:44am PT
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^^^ Aaaaaand there it is.... first negative comment on this thread!
Name calling, unfounded accusations and assumptions and a nice Straw Man Argument to top it off! All in the same post!
It only took 49 posts... Man, that's pretty dang good.
This was a great thought experiment for me. I was wondering how long it would last as a conversation before it got missiled. I guess 49 posts but a lot of those were me.
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2013 - 12:45am PT
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Actually that was a bit of a perfect storm scenario... Maybe it was all sarcasm.
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Oct 24, 2013 - 12:50am PT
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Maybe it's all sarcasm, all the time.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Oct 24, 2013 - 04:10am PT
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No surprise blueit, er blueballs, er, damn this is hard, bluewad, ah whatever, broke your record
wait is that negative...
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clinker
Trad climber
California
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Oct 24, 2013 - 08:30am PT
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For a minute there, I felt safe.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Oct 24, 2013 - 09:26am PT
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Would sarcasm be a false positive?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Oct 24, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
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Has it been a month yet?
Seems like forever
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 24, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
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Yea... I guess it's been about a month in cat-years... so... carry on as normal then. Good game.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Oct 24, 2013 - 01:49pm PT
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Would sarcasm be a false positive?
Excellent, Philo!
John
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HeldUp
climber
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Oct 29, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
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You can teach someone good manners - i.e. the golden rule - but you can't make them use them.
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