Four things we learned from government shutdown


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Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 18, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
1) We really, really love our parks ...


Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Oct 18, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
3) The media is even more moronic than we imagined and we had them pretty far down the phylogenetic scale as it was.

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Oct 18, 2013 - 07:56pm PT
4) Werner is a "stupid American".

Oct 18, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
6) When they finally get to put a new ceiling in the White House, the zoos open again.

Oct 18, 2013 - 09:17pm PT
7) The 2012 election strategy will continue until there is no more US.

After Bitter Defeat, Will the GOP’s Next Move Be Impeachment?
October 18, 2013 | Posted by Jackie Jones

One thing you can say about the most diehard Republicans, they are not gracious losers.

Within hours after Republicans ended their budget fight with President Obama and allowed a measure ending the federal government shutdown to go through, a Republican congressman from Texas arranged for the distribution of a book to House members, which makes an argument for possible articles of impeachment against the president.

WND, a conservative website, reported that each of the 435 members of Congress received a copy of “Impeachable Offenses: The Case for Removing Barack Obama from Office,” by Aaron Klein and Brenda J. Elliott, courtesy of Rep. Steve Stockman.

The book contends that Obama has violated the Constitution several times, including the introduction of his health care legislation, which the authors called taxation without representation, gun control and his handling of the attack on the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi, Libya.

Approximately 15 Republicans have discussed a possible move in the House several times previously, according to WND, but it appears the reluctance to move is pragmatically driven. Some GOP lawmakers said they believed they could get enough votes for articles of impeachment through the House, but couldn’t win a conviction in the Senate, which requires 67 votes. There are 46 Republicans in the Senate, but impeachment advocates are not convinced they would vote in one block and win enough votes from any disgruntled Democrats.
It’s interesting to see there is a discussion of impeachment less than a full day after Republicans conceded defeat in the showdown against the administration over the funding of the Affordable Care Act and the debt limit.

The Senate voted 81 to 18 Wednesday for a measure negotiated by GOP and Democratic leaders. The House then voted 285 to 144 – including 87 Republicans – for the Senate version.

“If you look back in time and evaluate the last couple of weeks, it should be titled ‘The Time of Great Lost Opportunity,’” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told The New York Times in describing the failed exercise by Republicans.

Instead of defunding the health care law, derisively referred to as Obamacare, the GOP instead exposed its own deep divisions, put the nation on the brink of financial ruin—diminishing the party’s stature among voters in the process—and failed to win major concessions from Democrats.

Republicans squandered their advantage when the president was facing heavy questioning, if not criticism, over long-term debt and whether he was smart or just lucky in the showdown with Syria, which ended with President Assad agreeing to let his cache of chemical weapons be destroyed. The GOP even blew the opportunity to make political hay about the website snafus hundreds of thousands of Americans encountered when they tried to get information about or sign up for the Affordable Care Act.

And yet, in the midst of figuring out how it all went so wrong and whether there is anything to salvage from this episode, there are Republicans who want to take the fight right back to the administration, suggesting that articles of impeachment might be a logical next step.

If nothing else, the Republicans bought themselves some time: The deal finances the government only through Jan. 15 and raises the debt ceiling until Feb. 7.
Jackie Jones, a journalist and journalism educator, is director of the career transformation firm Jones Coaching LLC and author of “Taking Care of the Business of You: 7 Days to Getting Your Career on Track.”


Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Oct 18, 2013 - 09:25pm PT
8) People cannot do simple math or count?

How about we take in this much cash so we can only spend this much cash?

Oct 18, 2013 - 09:33pm PT
9. The whitehouse lawn becomes overgrown & overrun with wildlife.

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 18, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
10. Not much. Folks will still allow donations by wealthy interests to political candidates. Real solutions will not be allowed a large public forum by those very interests.

Ice climber
the ghost
Oct 18, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
11) Americans get the government they deserve.

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Oct 18, 2013 - 11:59pm PT
14) I hate tea

Trad climber
Oct 19, 2013 - 12:08am PT
15a I thought they were my parks. Why is he stupid?

Trad climber
Fresno, CA
Oct 19, 2013 - 12:34am PT
The stupid American public will bitch to the end of the earth about the situation, but then vote to re-elect the same legislators and parties - isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results.

Oct 19, 2013 - 01:04am PT
12. Supertopo posters that were foaming at the crotch with their continuously lame postings are now on a list of dumbasses to stay away from.

I wish some of the more rabid posters were observant enough to realize the value of this statement - alas, we all know how this goes...

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Oct 19, 2013 - 07:45am PT

The writing has been on the walls for years.

Oct 19, 2013 - 08:57am PT
The government shut down? When?

I guess I missed that.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 19, 2013 - 09:01am PT
It was fun not following this story, all along knowing the so-called crisis was 100% manufactured and would be 'solved.'

This wasn't worth the emotional energy of a hangnail after a manicure.

Casino Politics - if you play, you lose.


from out where the anecdotes roam
Oct 19, 2013 - 09:32am PT
how gerrymandering and unchecked monied interests can derail the best efforts of our forefolks and vets

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Oct 19, 2013 - 10:38am PT
1. Tea Party Republicans shut down the government over a law they don't like.
2. They come from districts where voters are even crazier than them.
3. John Boehner is a spineless tool.
4. Anyone who listens to talk radio has the brain of a flea.

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
Oct 19, 2013 - 10:42am PT
I vote for the "nothing has been learned" option.

Kennewick wa
Oct 19, 2013 - 10:50am PT
1) Clapton is God

2) Frodo Lives

3) You can tune a piano but you can't tuna fish

4) Twerking
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