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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 20, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
Wonder about the HT.. There HAD to be a SAW present there that day ...
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Oct 20, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
Taking responsibility for this act is a step in the right direction.
Some tangible proof of sincerity maybe next. Community service comes to mind.


This individual has done irreparable damage to a promising career in a highly competitive field.
He has broken federal and possibly local laws and will no doubt be contacted by authorities.
He has lost all trust and credibility in the climbing community.

While I personally find his actions beyond comprehension and incredibly stupid, I try to keep it in perspective.
He will be paying for this stupid action for a long, long time.

Keep in mind everyone makes mistakes.


HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Oct 20, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
He will be paying for this stupid action for a long, long time.
yes
the convergence with the Goblin Valley Destructors is striking.
canyoncat

Social climber
SoCal
Oct 20, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
It's like he means to apologize, but he's just too full of himself to understand how he undermines his apology. He implies that he's such an important climber that talking about his screw up is sufficient to fix things?

I don't know, but it sounds to me like he still seems to think his mistake was cutting down junipers, not cutting down trees for his convenience in general?

Also he makes it sound like it was during his second trip that he was "thinking" about the tree and got the sudden inspiration to make things safe, but I missed the part where he just happened to carry a saw with him???

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Oct 20, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
KILL THE PIG!

SPILL ITS BLOOD!
geo_nutt

Gym climber
the big bang
Oct 20, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
Mchrist

I understand the issue much more then you think. No junipers don't laugh but people do. And this issue is about selfishness on both sides. The juniper can give a crap less about you or me they don't frackin think. People on the other hand do in some cases they may want that juniper being where it is so they can have their moment in nature take a picture of it and post it on Facebook. Or in your case they want someone to cut down that juniper so they can boast about how assume they are for knowing better on the internet. It is crazy how we as a society will use a poor mistake by one person to show what a better person we are when in reality we are just covering up for their own infalibilities. See I'm doing right now. As I said better then days of our lives
cintune

climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:05pm PT
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:08pm PT
Or in your case they want someone to cut down that juniper so they can boast about how assume they are for knowing better on the internet.

You are clueless.
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:12pm PT
I dont give a schist about how hard this guy climbs but I won't take is actions for granite.
rnevius

Trad climber
The Range of Light
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:13pm PT
His post didn't come across as remorseful. Rather, it seems he got scared and is trying to save face.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:25pm PT
I let nutter's comment about my ASSUMENESS slide... I figured he may be ESL. He's still clueless, regardless.
doughnutnational

Gym climber
its nice here in the spring
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:26pm PT
The response shares disturbing similarities to the "scout masters" who toppled the rock to protect lives.
geo_nutt

Gym climber
the big bang
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
Name calling - classy.

I'll follow it up with this - is mchrist having an affair with Erica Kane??? Find out tomorrow as supertopo deliberates!

Edit. Again pointing out grammar errors and phone misspellings to show how much better you are then (or is it than) others - wow you are so much better than (then) me.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
I figured you were clueless. Didn't realize you were a fuking idiot.
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
Erica Kane was on All My Childern. Geez!
geo_nutt

Gym climber
the big bang
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
Again name calling. Classy.
geo_nutt

Gym climber
the big bang
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:33pm PT
I cry a tear.
all in jim

climber
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
So Ethan didn't cut any trees down.

It's a good thing the supertopo detectives launched a campaign against his livelihood and character, just in case.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:42pm PT
Beg to differ Jim. Ethane was there, he obviously saw a saw as part of the gear they took in. He somewhat condoned the action without stopping it himself. It was about them and the "team"..One may have done the cutting,, but a saw was there. Would you not ask a visiting climber what he planned to do with a SAW,, heading to one of your secret crags?
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
Oct 20, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
Ron ^^^^
Collaborators share the guilt, even if silent.
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