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WBraun
climber
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Oct 11, 2013 - 11:48am PT
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LOL ....
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Magic Ed
Trad climber
Nuevo Leon, Mexico
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Oct 11, 2013 - 11:56am PT
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In the mountains there are only two ratings, either you can do it or you can't.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 11, 2013 - 11:57am PT
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Numerical masturbation would be a better description.
Big number turns into little, limp number once the excitement dies down and someone else is in the room.
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BruceAnderson
Social climber
Los Angeles currently St. Antonin, France
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Oct 11, 2013 - 12:48pm PT
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Cue up Kalous rant somebody!
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Oct 11, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
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Because aid climbing gives someone the ability to force a line where a line maybe doesn't exist? It would be like a free route established with epoxied holds. Why bolt on holds to make it 5.14 when you can bolt on holds to make it 5.10 :)
A hole is a hole, right?
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Oct 11, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
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Just go where there are no ratings.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Oct 11, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
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I've got to admire Mt10910's ability to create controversy over climbing topics. Keep keeping us lively!
John
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Rivet hanger
Trad climber
Barcelona
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Oct 11, 2013 - 01:52pm PT
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I don't forget batheads, a tedious book and 30 years of misticism...
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TwistedCrank
climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
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Oct 11, 2013 - 02:07pm PT
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There are aid ratings?
Who knew?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Oct 11, 2013 - 02:18pm PT
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get up there and change them.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Oct 11, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
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French free.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Oct 11, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
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Nylon jugs.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Oct 11, 2013 - 03:11pm PT
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I used to post like mt, I got better.
...mostly
lol
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j-tree
Big Wall climber
Classroom to crag to summer camp
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Oct 11, 2013 - 03:12pm PT
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Bolt ladder =A0
40' slab falls from microhooking above 20 year old Z-macs = A3+
Deeply trenched leadheads every 18 inches = A6+
Lol.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Oct 11, 2013 - 03:19pm PT
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Slack! Take!
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Oct 11, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
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When life gives you aids, make lemonaids.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Oct 11, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
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LOL!!!
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Oct 11, 2013 - 05:03pm PT
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Roper's Green Climber's Guide to Yosemite Valley had an interesting rating for the expanding flake traverse on the Sentinel West Face. The Red Roper Guide rated the pitch A5. He reasoned in the Green guide that it could be rated either A1 or A5, depending on whether the climber popped. I think he settled on A4, IIRR. If I carry that logic a little farther, every pitch should be rated either A3 or C3, depending on whether or not it's hammerless, since there's always the possibility that the leader falls.
That might add a bit of otherwise lost adventure.
John
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