Park @ 140 gate and walk up to Arch Rock - ok or not ok?

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apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 3, 2013 - 01:07am PT
Master, you should absolutely go climbing in the Valley tomorrow. Better yet, get hurt there.


"Think about what happens when our climbing areas are owned by "Corporate America"
-------whose managers don't think that climbing is a "profit-center."

+1.
+10.
+$100.
Chim-Chim

climber
Oct 3, 2013 - 01:09am PT
Yeah, Riley. This isn't Nazi Germany, civil disobedience while we still can is the answer before we're totally screwed. Werner did you get furloughed too? Or are you packing an A.K. now.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Oct 3, 2013 - 01:11am PT
National Parks and National Forests are not the same and will be operating under rules regarding the closures of facilities, pay for employees, and how those impact management of the lands...

... more frequently than not, Parks can close gates and limit access more readily than Forests.
Chim-Chim

climber
Oct 3, 2013 - 01:18am PT
Todd that may be a law but like all legislation, it may be shyt it can be rescinded. Much like Obamacare or Roe Verses Wade etc.... Shyt I say shyt
Chim-Chim

climber
Oct 3, 2013 - 01:49am PT
Answer required.
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Oct 3, 2013 - 02:45am PT
Currently, it's a rock just like any other rock as far as I'm concerned. The government can take away the perks like bathrooms and rescues but THEY CANNOT TAJE IT AWAY. It belongs to the people not the government.
F*#k anyone who says orherwise
Lovegasoline

Trad climber
Sh#t Hole, Brooklyn, NY
Oct 3, 2013 - 03:18am PT
F*#k anyone who says orherwise

It appears that the federal government more or less controls the climbing scene, and hence the climbing culture, in the United States. With the push of a button in Washington the federal government can shutdown the climbing in America.
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Oct 3, 2013 - 03:50am PT
No, they can't, and haven't. In Tahoe almost all climbing us on FS lands and all climbing is open. You can't camp where you used to but you can hike or climb where you want. The same is true everywhere you just have to grab yer nuts and do it. Approaches will be longer and rescues may be non existent. There is also a higher level of responsibility in that each person is responsible for not screwing up the resource. But all of the rocks are still there and they are still the property of you and me, not some d#@&%ebag that thinks this is the way to overturn a law that's already been passed.
And you may get arrested, but only if your stupid
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 3, 2013 - 06:41am PT
where can i get a ranger uni?

gonna chop the locks on the entrance booth and collect 12 bucks a car,


should be able to bag about 1000 bucks before the tazer boys show up,

climbers get in free, if they have weed,


TheMaster

climber
Oct 3, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
Fritz, don't be an idiot. The Democratic administration is the one ordering the closing of public lands.

Werner, why is there even a "get caught" in the conversation? I understand that there aren't services and readily available SAR and that is a risk I am willing to take, but I shouldn't be restricted from being there at my own risk.

Well said Riley, it IS our duty to enter these places now. I plan to.

Apogee, bite me. You are just as big an idiot as Fritz.

Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Oct 3, 2013 - 10:56pm PT
Ophir wall is open folks . . . no fools and no tools. Might be a bit cold tomorrow though.
WBraun

climber
Oct 4, 2013 - 01:48am PT
Werner, why is there even a "get caught" in the conversation?


It's closed to all recreation and that includes climbing.

Not my idea and I have nothing to do with it either.

I'm just telling you since you're so dense. (Just plain stupid)

Do what ever you "think" you need to do.

It's your choice .......
bergbryce

Mountain climber
California
Oct 4, 2013 - 01:54am PT
i didn't choose to have diarrhea this evening
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Oct 4, 2013 - 02:34am PT
butt plug?

































blue?
Rhodo-Router

Gym climber
sawatch choss
Oct 4, 2013 - 12:09pm PT
What Michelle said.

Figure it out.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Oct 4, 2013 - 12:46pm PT
So .... Lets look ahead say 10 years.... with O-Care firmly in place and giving the health care we all need...

and some president, who ever, whatever party in power and some minority party say- 40%- won't go along with "majority" ....gets the government to
"SHUTDOWN"... gasp!

It won't be your Nat Park lands getting closed. It will be the HOSPITAL that is shut down. With armed tools standing outside, to keep you locked out.

Wake up people.
TheMaster

climber
Oct 4, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
Werner, you STILL didn't answer my question. You keep saying the same thing over and over. Why is it off limits and closed? Does not need to be even without services and rangers around. Do you EVER question the orders you are given?

Thank you for the compliment, by calling me "stupid" it shows that you are just as dense as the yahoos that closed the parks.
WBraun

climber
Oct 4, 2013 - 11:24pm PT
Because it's CLOSED. Are you really that dense??

I'm not stopping you from anything! I didn't make the rules you retard!

You have a brain? If so use it.

I can't do anything here either.

I'm in the same boat you are, as are thousands of others also.

God you really are stupid.

If you want to interpret it any way you want then do so.

You already did a long time ago anyways.

It's your choice and free will.

Unbelievable a guy like you can't even think ......

T H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Oct 4, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
One strategy might be to approach Tuolumne from east slope via 120 - have somebody drop you off with a bike, stash it, climb something, then coast back down Tioga.
TheMaster

climber
Oct 4, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
I asked:
Why is it off limits and closed?

Werner answered:
Because it's CLOSED. Are you really that dense??

And Werner thinks I am dense? Unbelievable. He just accepts the fact that it is closed and can't even entertain the thought that it doesn't HAVE to be closed. I understand that it IS closed. I just can't get him to understand that I am questioning the "why"? Oh well, waste of my time I guess.

I guess Werner must be stressed out. Maybe I shouldn't be arguing with him.

Sorry about that Werner. You are probably a good guy. Peace.
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