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Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Oct 2, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
All I know is I am F***ed
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 2, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
well well

I see Ron is finally coming on over to our side

he is now lamenting that so many Americans do not have health insurance and just go to the
emergency rooms who then bill the government which Ron pays taxes into

I agree Ron, it is now day TWO of the ACA, how come everyone is not signed up yet!

this is an outrage I tell you!

I agree with Ron, this IS about taking personal responsibility instead of sucking off Ron
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 2, 2013 - 12:53pm PT


"Good start to a non functional program me thinks"...

The program is getting bogged down with people signing up...

;-)

apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 2, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
"I cant sign up even if i wanted and could afford to"


Bullsh#t, Ron. If I can afford it, you can afford it.

If/when you get hurt or ill, you are not going to be able to pay for all of the care that is provided to you. Guess who will get to pay for that? Yep, that would be us.

You know, your argument would hold just a little more credibility if you had personal responsibility to insure yourself, and make sure your problem doesn't become everybody else's problem.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 2, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
LOL if Obamacare was so bad the republicans would not be trying to block it.. they would let it go in effect and destroy the democrats. Methinks they doth protest too much

Oh and WTF does all this have to do with funding the government? Is Obama trying to shove tax hikes on the rich by attaching it to a basic budget?

Nope its ONLY the republicans trying to attach unrelated demands.

You cannot tell me the republicans are afraid of something as bad as they claim obamacare is when if it really was that bad it would only stick to Obama... since it's His legislation.

They would let it go through and laugh all the way to the polls.

Repubs are clearly liars or political idiots. I see no other possible analysis of the situation.

The fact is they are trying to kill it before it happens because they are very afraid people will like it once they actually have it. It's hard to tell people how bad a peperoni pizza is once they have eaten one.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 2, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
So 16M more insured is bad?
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
"Things like luxury items, disposable cash and recreation will go down the tubes"...

Talk about SPOILED, "Stupid Americans"...

...

We have it so fuking GOOD over here!!!...

We could be SUPPOSEDLY fuked, and be a million times BETTER off...



Be happy that others (FELLOW STUPID AMERICANS!!!) now will be able to get the coverage that before was unattainable to them...


pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
Obama care=bullshit!
I love the price of the packages they offer.
They must think we have lots of money.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
No Ron the republicans could do an honorable job trying to stop Obamacare.. one could argue they have done so.. up until now when they have decided to throw the baby out with the bathwater.. now they have gone too far even if you agree that Obamacare is bad. They are doing more harm than good.

That's the problem now.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
Healthcare is and will continue to be a joke in the U.S. for DECADES to come. Now we will just add bureaucracy to the mix. I typically wake up in the Am and say...man the government runs in a finely tuned and efficient manner. I bet they will do great with health care lol
I see a huge shortage of primary care physicians being an issue. I work with/around many physicians. None of them want their own children to pursue medicine. The other advice I hear is if they do, go into a specialty that has little to do with insurance( cosmetic etc).

I also see 2 classes of care in the future. The wealthy will get access to the best doctors and the rest of us will be left with long waits and possibly not the best care. Actually, it is already happening with many primarys offering their "concierge service". My primary kicked me to the curb because I will not pay him an $1800 per year fee just to be able to be one of his patients.

Good times!

Now I am off to apply at Costco or some other retailer where I can receive medical benefits. Honestly thinking it is time to close up my fairly successful small business and work for the MAN.( ie health benefits)
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
Ya know, Ron, when I first got into my line of work, I couldn't afford a lot of stuff, including medical insurance. A few, well-intentioned 'tough love' friends of mine told me that if my line of work doesn't allow me to cover basic personal responsibilities (like insurance), perhaps I need to find a different line of work, or figure out a way to take responsibility for myself.

Capiche?
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:13pm PT


"Even Warren Buffet doesn't want his kids to be billionaires."...

I read that one too!!!...

To quote:

"I don't want my kids to be Billionaires!!! They're just going to have to settle for being Multi Millionaires"...
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
The crazy thing is that I could afford it when purchased on the open market. If what I am seeing/being told is true, my cost to insure my family will at least....double.

Recently, I was doing contract work for a Fortune 500 company. Their yet to be announced plan is to transition from 80% ft employees to 50%. So thousands will be getting their hours cut and will lose corporate health benefits. Sucks to be them!

EDIT: Sucks to be me too. I supported it initially. As Obama said...If you like your health insurance, you can keep it. Nope, it goes Bye Bye on Jan 1 and I pay wayyy more.

Typical politician BS. Tell the people what they want to hear and then change it later.

Not much trust of the government in our household these days!
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:17pm PT


Just don't sign up and take the fine at the end of the year...

Case closed!!!...

Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
Health tied to work. Kinda antiquated in an age where there is no worker/workplace loyalty anymore.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
Just don't sign up and take the fine at the end of the year...

Case closed!!!...


Thinking about it. Having a couple sub 18 year old kids make it difficult. More likely will need to take a shi**y job with bene's in addition to my FT job.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:22pm PT

For those complaining of having rates go up???...

You MUST be making some pretty decent money then...

Quit CRYING!!!...

You've had it WAYYYYYYYYY too good for too long!!!...



;-)





EDITED:

In the meantime...

While you're all enjoying WORK...

I'll be out CLIMBING!!!...

LOL!!!...

Fuking A!!!...

apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:22pm PT
"You also talk like im on some social program tit too."

Good on ya for 'paying as you go', thusfar, Ron.

Problem is, even if you never have a serious accident, you will very likely require significant medical care in the later years of your life. Even if you turn down the majority of the options, you are going to need care you won't be able to pay for.

Unless you've got a nice little nest egg for just such an occasion, you need to take some personal responsibility (like most of us) and get yourself insured.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:25pm PT


"^^^^^^^^^^^^They have known for some time the failings of this program.."...

NEWSFLASH!!!...

Obama wanted a LOT more for the American People as a WHOLE...

The Republicans can be blamed for what we ended up with...

Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
The death panel will take care of locker when he gets the blue butt plug stuck and seeks medical care
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