Rope Bolt Ladder?


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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 17, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
I want to learn to aid - just starting out basic moving up aiders etc. - but have no easy access to local bolted venues or suitable crack climbs.

I do however have access to some venues in which I could easily set up ~10m top ropes.

My idea - tie alpine butterflys every metre or so in a static rope and use this as a "rope bolt ladder".

Anyone done this? Is it a totally rubbish idea or might it just work?


Anchorage Alaska
Sep 17, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
Get the sac less Hedge to visit your local crag. He'd love to turn the best routes there into bolt ladders for you

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Sep 17, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
Climb a big tree.

Bring beers in the haulbag and a stick clip.

Don't drill, even if it gets hard.


Trad climber
Western America
Sep 17, 2013 - 05:22pm PT
The knots will still rub against the rock and with you weighting it
will expose the core ruining the rope.

but you are thinking which is Ok. Hooking sideways along a wall and placing a real piece when a crack presents itself then back cleaning it. Never getting higher than an easy step to the ground is a safe way to teach your self and your feet the fun pain they are in store for.

If its just to gain muscle memory for messing with aiders a tree or a chin-up bar is good.

dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Sep 17, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
Stemill, where do you live? There are man made aid venues all over the place.

Freeway bridges and retaining walls in the river channels provide cracks.

When I was a young teen we would aid all over the ceiling of my cousins unfinished attic. 2 runners for tying off 2x's, harness, carabiners, daisys and aiders. BITD we did it with swamis and no harness.

I had a block retaining wall in my neighborhood that had short thin parallel cracks to traverse. With a little looking there is stuff all over the city.

Your idea of the rope ladder setup doesn't sound that bad either for basic etrier practice.

Just do it.

Sep 17, 2013 - 07:03pm PT
Be creative.


Sep 17, 2013 - 09:45pm PT

Get the sac less Hedge to visit your local crag. He'd love to turn the best routes there into bolt ladders for you


First post eh, well.......................

yer gunna die!!!
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Sep 17, 2013 - 11:51pm PT
I don't think you're going to like the proposed rig on account of rope stretchyness.

Find a big tree and use lots of runners.

Railroad trestle.

High tension wire metal tower. (snicker)

Ramset and a nice tall freeway overpass.

Screw in hooks in the rafters in your mother's basement.

Anything but rock. Don't climb rock until you're "ready."

If you have to climb a rope, use a prusik knot and dangle the rope off a nice bridge somewhere.
Paul Martzen

Trad climber
Sep 18, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
Lots of good suggestions. The whole point is to try stuff out and see what happens. Have a top rope belay if possible so you don't get hurt.

I think trees are particularly good practice venues, because they are all different and they can really overhang.
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