Rim Fire, The Beginning


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sharon conglomerate central
Sep 5, 2013 - 09:26pm PT
This ain't a ted nugent thing. f*#k that dude.

Trad climber
Sep 5, 2013 - 09:38pm PT
don't think the beginning matters much.

would we feel better if it'd been lightning?

those lower-drainages are choked with brush and ladder fuels and non-commercial timber. mechanical thinning isn't feasible, and control burns are dicey in that terrain, even if the USFS was fully-funded, and the local congressman, business owners, second home owners, ranchers, SPI, tourists, and climbers wouldn't whine constantly about the smoke.

we were unbelievably lucky. could've easy been lightning and the same result.

if they hadn't held the line on the 25th and 26th, and it had blown up north fork, we could've lost a whole lot of that lower 108 corridor. the best thing about this fire is that it could help to create an environment in which control burning is more accepted (and funded) in the sierras.

Sep 5, 2013 - 09:51pm PT
I grew up in Iowa & Oregon, hunting doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the lack of regard for personal responsibility.

Always pointing the figure at everyone else: Mexicans, blacks, Muslims... now we're reminded that Californians are on that list, let's jump to another conclusion. Obama, of course, can't forget him.

This is all I need to hear - if one single hunter could say something like this - feel free to copy and paste:

"Hey, I'm a hunter and I'm sorry to hear a hunter caused the Rim Fire. My friends and I try to hunt in a safe and responsible manner. We try to do what we can to make sure all hunters behave this way."

I'd say "Hey, thanks - that's really good to hear. If it were a hiker or climber who started the fire, I'd say the same thing. Since they figured out the fire was human-caused, the same applies to every human being."

I'm better off talking to a rock than someone who doesn't understand the basic concepts of personal responsibility. I don't get it, maybe they didn't teach that to little boys who grew up before me.

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Sep 5, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
Thanks klk, I was about to post the same thing!

Pretty much 95%of the time I don't see people back there.

Mountain climber
Sep 6, 2013 - 12:03am PT
I would rather go into the forest and kill the deer Alexey ,this way I know where my food comes from and DMT all hunters I know are not hacks at all.
Dingus Milktoast

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And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Sep 6, 2013 - 12:10am PT
Cool, tracker todd. Peace.


Kennewick wa
Sep 6, 2013 - 12:13am PT
the carrot screams as loud as the pig, you just haven't learned to hear it.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 1, 2013 - 01:14am PT
looking Northeast from the "Rim of the World" turnout on Rt. 120 going into the Valley on 9/20

and in the Park, also on Rt. 120, at a place where the fire jumped the road...

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