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10b4me

Ice climber
Soon 2B in Arizona
Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 5, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
http://www.sfgate.com/news/science/article/USFS-Hunter-caused-huge-wildfire-near-Yosemite-4789447.php[/quote

hb81

climber
Sep 5, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
The only legal hunting allowed at the time the fire started Aug. 17 was archery for bear and deer.

Is that really a thing people do? Wow.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Sep 5, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
Is that really a thing people do? Wow.

You must be a city dweller.
bobinc

Trad climber
Portland, Or
Sep 5, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
The killing is only part of it... the grilling is the real event.
Bad Climber

climber
Sep 5, 2013 - 01:36pm PT
I'm all for hunting, but who are these FREAKIN' morons? A huge fire was started in our neck of the woods a couple of years ago by some in-bred dolt deciding that using an electric pipe cutter in high, tinder-dry grass was a good idea. He had a bucket of water nearby in case anything got out of hand. Thousands of scorched acres and many blackened homes later, it was under control. Another moron, this time at the controls of a plane, decided to buzz his buddies place in the mountains int he same area. Long story short: dead pilot, MASSIVE wildfire.

We are never safe from idiots.

BAd
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Sep 5, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
I've spent a lot of time back in that part of the Stanislaus alone. I always wave, smile and keep going. Some of those people are f*#king scarey as sh#t. Old meth labs in rusting trailers, hunters giving me the stink eye while armed. Although, this was before the Murphy ranch became Indian land. Never happened upon a grow though.


Too bad, I liked it out there.
Alexey

climber
San Jose, CA
Sep 5, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
what do you expect from people who kill the animals just for fun..
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Sep 5, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
how do you like your cheeseburgers?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 5, 2013 - 03:23pm PT
What do you expect?
Indeed.

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/nov/18/local/me-cedar18

"Martinez, who works for a home developer, had begged Benitez for leniency, saying that he panicked when he became separated from his companion on a deer hunting trip in the backcountry of northern San Diego County."
TrackerTodd

Mountain climber
CA
Sep 5, 2013 - 03:32pm PT
This is a total bummer, I have seen many campers and hikers building campfires in the back country all too often. Alexey, why do you assume the hunter was just doing this for fun? Every hunter I know hunts to eat not for sport.
John M

climber
Sep 5, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
Turns out the media got it wrong. The person was "hunting" for a new climbing area.


Those damn climbers. Always screwing things up for everyone else.
Alexey

climber
San Jose, CA
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:04pm PT
Todd, I never hunted, and honestly know very little about this.
But assume that the time where people hunting for food is over.
I am talking about hunters for whom hunting is hobby, not profession. And I am guessing that main goal is not to bring meat home for hungry family , but successfully chase and kill wild animal.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:13pm PT
You eat meat, you can't disparage hunters. Hypocrisy at it's best. Any hunter worth his salt eats what he kills. Drive a car down the road squashing insects as you proclaim vegetarianism, mow your lawn chopping its denizens to pieces, there is no escaping the act of taking life, at least in this existence.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:16pm PT
Alexey, many people where I live hunt, and they all hunt for food, not trophies.

It's reckless behavior to have a fire when you shouldn't.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:18pm PT
You eat meat, you can't disparage hunters. Hypocrisy at it's best.

Ridiculous.

Most hunters disparage other hunters, and you know it. Hunters don't put meat on my table. Your typical 'hunter' comes from some city or surburban center, hunts a handful of days per year, within 10 minutes of the nearest road. Some of them 'hunt' from the window of their vehicles using spotlights. I have seen them at work.

So defend hunters all you want. You are standing shoulder to shoulder with drunks and poachers, along with the ligit and serious hunters (a minority of 'hunters')
T
rophy hunters should be required to eat what they kill. All of it.

DMT

Alexey

climber
San Jose, CA
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
I see the difference between the choice : go to store and buy the meat or go to the forest and kill the deer.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
Or do neither. Yeah, I know, the bug thing, so what, it's about minimizing your impact on other life.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
Unless you're a vegetarian or vegan, you have no grounds for disliking hunting. I don't know anyone who hunts for huntings sake, they hunt for food.

I'm sure there are losers out there who kill just because they can, but I don't see it where I live.

Again, an illegal fire is reckless and inappropriate.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Sep 5, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
There is a huge well established deer hunting community in many parts of the country.

In Western PA, where I grew up, there was no school on the first day of deer hunting season. Too many boys would take the day off, so the schools would invent a holiday that always coincided with opening day.

Never took to hunting myself, but my brother and other family members were quite serious about it. And it not easy - it takes skill and hard work if you want to have any level of success.

Every deer hunter I knew ate the animals they killed.

Ya gotta remember, there ain't much else to do in these places. I never even heard of rock climbing until I was in college.

You are standing shoulder to shoulder with drunks and poachers [...]

Kinda like stoners and grid bolters?

A story about my people:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077416/plotsummary?ref_=tt_stry_pl
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Sep 5, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Unless you're a vegetarian or vegan, you have no grounds for disliking hunting.

Bullsh#t. Most hunters are hacks. They don't eat their kills.

MOST.

DMT
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