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Loomis

climber
Svět
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 29, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
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klaus

Big Wall climber
Pacif*#ka Muthaf*#ka
Aug 29, 2013 - 07:39pm PT
that's not Jello Biafra although there is a resemblance.

Eric Reed Boucher
Loomis

climber
Svět
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
Klaus, it is totally him, trust me.
klaus

Big Wall climber
Pacif*#ka Muthaf*#ka
Aug 29, 2013 - 07:45pm PT
last time I saw him he was too fat to climb up a fight of stairs. he's 55 now, maybe he got in shape?

more details please
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 29, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
FECK! Quick glance and all I saw was Jello Dead..bout stopped my heart...
edgerson

Social climber
Newport Beach, CA
Aug 29, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
Looks like holiday in Cambodia
Mr Roy

climber
Seattle
Aug 29, 2013 - 07:49pm PT
Loomis, you can't fool me.

How it going, Bra ?
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Aug 29, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
Nearly 30 years ago he told me ,while growing up in Boulder, his father made him climb in Eldo, and that he hated it ever since but that was 30 years ago. Last time I saw him he was quite rotund.

Loomis

climber
Svět
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
This is from his facebook page (which he controls)
His 'What would Jello do?' youtube videos are great to watch.

Good to see you here Punk Roy!

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klaus

Big Wall climber
Pacif*#ka Muthaf*#ka
Aug 29, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
OK I guess I'm wrong. He totally has the mountaineer physique, kinda like Twight.
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guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Aug 29, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
Scott.... thats not the Jello I remember, no sir.

He was running on the top of the pit... screaming about "lynching the landlord...yea"

EDIT: He is not part of the DK anymore, right?

matty

Trad climber
under the sea
Aug 29, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
mountaineer may be a stretch...but then again the best mountaineer is the one having the most fun so ???



Mountaineering Uber Alles!
Mr Roy

climber
Seattle
Aug 29, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
Jello on Facebook, tell me it's not true, Loomis.. ack.. I lurk..
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Aug 29, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
file under "Fatties Who Were Once Skinny" next to the Val Kilmer dossier
Loomis

climber
Svět
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2013 - 08:46pm PT
Yeah, Dead Kennedys is history. This is pretty much what he's up to now.


What Would Jello Do part 36 - The Trouble with the NSA






Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine

rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Aug 29, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
That was such a great band. I saw them at The Whiskey in the very early 80's!
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Aug 29, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
Credit: The Larry
Heyzeus

climber
Hollywood,Ca
Aug 29, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
There's ALWAYS room for Jello
klaus

Big Wall climber
Pacif*#ka Muthaf*#ka
Aug 29, 2013 - 09:11pm PT
so now that he's a climber I'd like to hear a rant about bolts. I can totally imagine him being pissed off at Erik Sloan for placing "convenience bolts" all over other people's routes. lol
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 29, 2013 - 09:12pm PT
EMF Edgerson...
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Aug 29, 2013 - 09:18pm PT
the answer to WWJD is:

eat a couple bacon-on-doughnut sandwiches, double cheese (hold the lettuce), with 64-oz Coke
QITNL

climber
Aug 29, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
Good luck!
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Aug 29, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
It would be great to go climbing with Jello Biafra!

So what if if he's fat and 55. Anyone who remembers him is fat and 55 also !

klaus

Big Wall climber
Pacif*#ka Muthaf*#ka
Aug 29, 2013 - 11:40pm PT
maybe he should go do my route at the Fishers called Full Metal Jackoff on the Forming tower

I'll belay and listen to him whine about the difficulties

lol
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 29, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
Correct me if i'm wrong again but didn't Jello buy a fleet of junk cars and park them all over SF to overload the city with a back- load of parking tickets...?
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Aug 29, 2013 - 11:50pm PT
One picture on a snow slog does not a mountaineer make. But so whut. Berg Heil Jello Biafra. I wonder if he knows climbers have our own famous Jello :-D
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Aug 29, 2013 - 11:56pm PT
There's nothing as pure as a punk from SF, Klaus...

Give the guy some breathing room long after his moment's been over.

Zappa said it best: Composers compose the music. Musicians play the music composers write for them.

Tami

Social climber
Canada
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:07am PT
.....and decomposers smell bad.
Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:19am PT
When the DK played SLC in around '85, Jello took the stage in a Donnie and Marie t-shirt. Hilarious. Of course, when he stripped it off, he had his chest/belly hair shaved in the shape of an upside down cross.

I caught him when he dove off the stage...good times. Ha ha.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:24am PT
Wesley Willis and Jello were good friends,

here is My Daddy Smokes Cocaine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6dp3nQajqY

ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:25am PT
from "Too Drunk to F*#k" to "Too Fat to Send"
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:27am PT
Don't want to crush the fun but I think everyone here would have no problem in the company of Jello B, slogging snow in the Sun.

We all get put out to pasture eventually and find something "rad" that may not be current.

The boy was great live, as me and some friends experienced in the dark ages of modern culture. He's allowed to take up fishing...

About that time:

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:31am PT
My Daddy Smokes Cocaine....Probably my all time favorite right behind Stairway to Heaven....
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:35am PT
Trust your Mechanic is about getting your car wrecked by the mechanics in this town....You see an awful lot of him now..!
QITNL

climber
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:36am PT
Good luck!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:43am PT
QTNL....I beg to differ...Charlie Manson puts Iggy to shame.....RJ
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:44am PT
QITNL,

Yer right but everyone knows politics are boring when you gotta face work at 7am Monday morning.

Jello helped you feel free and smart after drinking beer on a Friday after work!
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 30, 2013 - 02:02am PT
Alternate Testicles is a private label formed by Jello, artists include or included:


Alice Donut
Ani Kyd
Citizen Fish
Cross Stitched Eyes
Dash Rip Rock
Drunk Injuns
Jello Biafra
Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine
Knights of the New Crusade
Leftöver Crack
Mumia Abu-Jamal
Munly (and the Lee Lewis Harlots)
Nardwuar the Human Serviette
Noam Chomsky
Pansy Division
Pilot Scott Tracy
Report Suspicious Activity
Skarp
Slim Cessna's Auto Club
Subhumans
Turn Me on Dead Man
Unsane
Ward Churchill
Witch Hunt
Zolar X

Former artists

Akimbo
Amebix
Black Kali Ma
BlöödHag
Blowfly
Brujeria
Brutal Juice
Burning Image
Butthole Surfers
The Causey Way
Comets on Fire
Creeps On Candy
Crucif*#ks
Dead Kennedys
The Dicks
D.O.A.
Eat
The Evaporators
eX-Girl
F-Minus
Facepuller
False Prophets
The Fartz
The Flaming Stars
Fleshies
Free Beer
Galloping Coroners (Vágtázó Halottkémek)
God Bullies
Grotus
Half Japanese
Howard Zinn
The Hanson Brothers
Hissanol
Jarboe
Lard
Life After Life
Logical Nonsense
Ludicra
Mat Callahan / The Looters
Melvins
M.I.A.
Mojo Nixon
Nausea
Neurosis
Nomeansno
No WTO Combo
Pachinko
Part Time Christians
Pitchshifter
Ratos de Porăo
The Phantom Limbs
The Skatenigs
SNFU
Star F*#king Hipsters
Stickdog
Thrall
Toxic Reasons
Tragic Mulatto
Triclops!
Tribe 8
T.S.O.L.
Victims Family
Wesley Willis
The Yuppie Pricks
Zeni Geva

klaus

Big Wall climber
Pacif*#ka Muthaf*#ka
Aug 30, 2013 - 02:03am PT
I'm not dissing Jello at all. The guy was way fun back in the late 80's. the upside down cross shaved belly was classic. he would start a show with stupid/crazy clothes on that would inevitably get torn off his body by the crowd. It was always intense.

I knocked him into a stage faceplant back then. It did not faze him a bit.

Just funny seeing him with snow behind his back
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ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Aug 30, 2013 - 02:06am PT
d00d is a long way from a burrito. X-Treme for sure.
klaus

Big Wall climber
Pacif*#ka Muthaf*#ka
Aug 30, 2013 - 02:07am PT
Alternate Testicles

now that's funny
klaus

Big Wall climber
Pacif*#ka Muthaf*#ka
Aug 30, 2013 - 02:10am PT
does he know there is an El Cap route named Plastic Surgery Disaster?

someone should tell him, it would make me proud.
tornado

climber
lawrence kansas
Aug 30, 2013 - 11:20am PT
Jello's sister died climbing. Interesting to see him climbing something. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jello_Biafra
Saw him a couple of years ago in the Rainbow Market in SF full on talking to himself. Personally I lost a lot of respect for him when he was sued by the other members of Dead Kennedy's (among other bands such as Neurosis)for not paying them their royalties. He no longer has the Dead Kennedy's and many other groups catalog on Alternative Tentacles. hence the above list of former bands on the label.
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Aug 30, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95RNUOtiloI
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Aug 30, 2013 - 12:51pm PT
LARD > DK

(I guess I've had my Dr title stripped)
Roots

Mountain climber
SoCal
Aug 30, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
Hey more power to him!

Funny this thread brought back a memory I had forgotten:

Back in '79/80 I was into punk. Went to my friend's apartment to buy a "nickel" of leaf. When I left I chose a random door and with a fatty black marker, I drew a big DK symbol dead center on the front door.

The next day my friend calls and says the middle eastern family that lived downstairs had come over and complained to his parents about the writing on their door. They had no idea who the Dead Kennedys where so translated the symbol to be an axe and wanted me to lift the "curse" I had placed on them and their family.

I could not stop laughing (I was 14 yo). I never did go back over there so started buying homegrown from someone else.

God I was such an a-hole when I was younger..

RyanD

climber
Squamish
Aug 30, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
This is awesome, funny stories here too. I used to carve DK symbols on my grip tape & everywhere else when I was a little sh#t head.


I'd go clip some bolts with Jello, have a feeling that would be right up his alley. "Give me convenience or give me death" lol, he's down for fixed anchors & rap bolts for sure!


TwistedCrank

climber
Bungwater Hollow, Ida-ho
Aug 30, 2013 - 03:39pm PT
I saw Jello give spoken word in Bozeman in 1986 or so. He took the tickets at the door on account of he was the greeter - totally DIY.

Somewhere along in his spew he was getting heckled by the audience and was totally getting into it Jello-style. Then someone shouted out something funny as hell that totally popped his mojo - he couldn't stop laughing. Finally he stops and asks "Can I use that?". He get a "yes", pulls a scrap of paper out of his pocket and scribbles on it. Then he gets back on his Jello train and all is well in the universe.

I didn't see him skiing at Bridger Bowl the next morning.
hellroaring

Trad climber
San Francisco
Aug 30, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
One xmas years ago I pissed my mom off bad when my little brother opened his gift from me. It was a DK's "too drunk to f*#k" T shirt. She was really mad, hell it's what he wanted for xmas.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Aug 30, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
I pissed my Mom off once by wearing the infamous Red Hot Chili Peppers shirt (socks & cocks) on Christmas morning. I was just trying to get a reaction. It worked.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Aug 30, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
I almost gave my mom a heart attack when I got my first mohawk, and I wasn't even wearing it "up."
weezy

climber
Aug 30, 2013 - 08:40pm PT
i just love how he's wearing a Brujeria cap. lol.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Aug 30, 2013 - 08:55pm PT
Roots, your story made my day! LOL
mrtropy

Trad climber
Nor Cal
Aug 31, 2013 - 12:55am PT
Very interesting story about his sister. Another one of the early punk singers ,now a folk and punk singer Penelope Huston, has a brother who is a mountain guide in Washington. And lets not forget Fritz Fox of the Mutants. Still skies with a couple of replace hips.
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Aug 31, 2013 - 03:07am PT
but does he appreciate the gold crown..?


LilaBiene

Trad climber
Technically...the spawning grounds of Yosemite
Sep 2, 2013 - 10:18am PT
So what's next? Johnny Rotten slacklining in his PIL PJs?!

Then, again, perhaps not..."I’m no one’s lap dog, you can’t put me on a leash."

Thanks, all, for bringing back some hilarious memories.
Mr Roy

climber
Seattle
Sep 2, 2013 - 12:59pm PT


http://www.soundconvictions.com/blog/bid/216858/Unjailed-members-of-Pussy-Riot-still-fighting-the-good-fight-safely
Loomis

climber
Svět
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 2, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Fučk Yeah Roy! Thanks for posting the Pussy Riot video and link.
Scott
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Sep 8, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
Here's Jello's retort on the civil case brought about by his former band members from the DK's.

During the argument over Who's more punk and who should get paid, Biafra suffered a severe beating at the hands of someone screaming that he was just a "rich rock star".

Politics are always local it seems...

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 8, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
Holiday in Cambodia for a Levi's commercial...? Sounds desperate...!
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Sep 8, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
It was a great argument. A bunch of musicians fighting over what in real life, amounted to a case of the Clap and who got it first.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 8, 2013 - 11:31pm PT
I'd pick Jello as he seems to have the creative instinct inspite of the lidacain lisp but his band had something going for them also....?
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Sep 8, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
OK, but as in building, are builders architects ?

Music has a big emotional side that makes players feel like they are equally deserving in the value of what composers write for them to play.

That's not how it goes in every other field of endeavour that involves making money.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 8, 2013 - 11:45pm PT
Some builders are architects..Maybe you meant to say designers...? I get what you are saying Jim..RJ
tornado

climber
lawrence kansas
Sep 9, 2013 - 01:16am PT
The band Neurosis sued Jello first which lead to the lawsuit from the other members of the Dead Kennedys. Here is what Scott Kelly from Neurosis has to say about Jello.
What happened with AT?

Alternative Tentacles ripped us off. That’s the simple version. They cooked the books and we called them on it. They accused us of all sorts of things and being greedy. And it was only about $3000!

It was basically an honor thing. There was no honor there. I don’t know what to say about it except that I was proud to be on the label when they approached us to do us records. We held them in high regard and it couldn’t be further from that now.

Label head Jello Biafra (former singer of the Dead Kennedys) also lost a lawsuit filed by his former band mates essentially claiming he’d been withholding royalties on the back catalog.

They won in court because they were correct. If he would rip us off for a small amount of money then he’d go after them for huge amount of money. When is the last time he had to punch a clock or worry about rent? He doesn’t. Who lives in a house on the hill? He does. I live in a trailer in the woods. I have a day job and always have. What he did to his fellow band mates is all there in black and white.


Full article if you are a Neurosis fanhttp://www.hellbound.ca/2010/09/scott-kelly-of-neurosis-the-hellbound-interview/

Jello is an ego maniac. I have stood within ear shot of him at dozens of Bay Area shows in the past twenty years and heard him tell numerous people the old "do you know who I am?" line.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Sep 9, 2013 - 01:43am PT
Tornado...sounds like typical narcissistic behavior...me , me , me...
QITNL

climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 01:59am PT
Hey Jim - In music, songwriting credits are pretty well defined. They weren't the basis of the dispute between Jello & the other DKs. There's another bundle of rights attached to the sound recordings. That's what they were fighting about. Both fall under copyright law. I could explain more if you wanted me to. Most creative businesses play by similar sets of rules.

Here's a fairly accurate and succinct account of what went down. I know the racket & the writer & a number of the people in the article but I don't really have any side. I could list everything they did wrong - the perfect storm:

http://www.researchpubs.com/interviews/ex-dead-kennedys-vs-jello-biafra/

And if you want to read even more details:
http://www.phillaw.com/casepdfs/Dead%20Kennedys%20Superior%20Court.pdf

The two issues central to this decision were the nature of their partnership (or lack thereof) and the fact that litigation is a total crap shoot, you never want to go there. Juries never understand copyright; few judges, either. Add to that: Jello didn't do himself any favors in the courtroom.

By the way, did we figure out the ski lift where that shot was taken?
tornado

climber
lawrence kansas
Sep 9, 2013 - 02:05am PT
Here's what East Bay Ray (the guitarist) has to say around the 2:30 minute mark.

quite the calm, intelligent, collected individual.

Here's Johnny Rotten from the Sex Pistols opinion of Jello around the 7:00 mark
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Sep 9, 2013 - 02:29am PT
QITNL,

I did get clued in a while ago and Jello is an unsympathetic character. (whom I would still go climbing with)

The other band mates aren't boyscouts either. People who try to make money through art tend to fudge details and fight like dogs over table scraps.

what do you think of this:

QITNL

climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 03:11am PT
Hey Jim - you can call me Joe - but that's as far as I'll go online since I don't want to out myself here!

It's kinda hard for me to respond. Half of me wants to go PUNK ROCK when every other band was the enemy, Ray's a lovable idiot, Klaus is a shitty bass player. But that was before I was taught professional courtesy. I couldn't really generalize about "people who try to make money through art" because there are all sorts of different characters.

I didn't want to click on your link because I'd never listen to Gene Simmons. But I did - hey that's Henry Rollins! - now that's who you want to go climbing with, the dude's a gem. He paid me one of my greatest compliments - better yet, he told my boss, he didn't tell me.

What Gene Simmons says there is half right and half Gene Simmons. Yes, the record business is finished, that's for sure. Yes, you are selling fantasy, but if that's your day job, it helps to have at least one foot firmly planted in reality, you know? The best artists I worked with had dynamic public personas; off-stage, they were regular folks, we'd talk about sports, our moms, goof around.
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