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Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 26, 2013 - 10:45pm PT
As if I didn't have enough problems.
I got a letter from the San Bernardino County Court today
saying I have a warrant for my arrest for failure to appear
on a traffic ticket I got about 5 months ago.

WTF, I paid the fine 3 weeks after I got the ticket.
Thank goodness I thought. I still have the receipt.
I went to the courthouse from the Post Office and talked with the clerk,
showed her the receipt and initial citation letter and the the letter I
got today and and she tells me The cite numbers don't match up and
that I had gotten 2 different tickets. I then started to see red
and told her I have had only one traffic stop in the last 8 years
and that was the one I paid for! I told here to look up the second
ticket which she did and she said I was stopped TWICE in one day
within a FOUR minute period In my Toyota truck AND a Toyota Camry
in the same place and for the same infraction.

WTF!!!

She says she can't clear it and she has to research what happened.
and I will have to wait. WTF???!!! Can't she see a mistake was made.
She says she can't take the warrant off till it is cleared up,

So meanwhile, If I get stopped before it gets cleared up, I get arrested!!!


WTF!!!!!??
SalNichols

Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:48pm PT
Was this a red light camera?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
The trick is up
The noose is out
They finally found you

The renegade
Who had it made
Betrayed for a bounty

(This'll be the end today
Of a wanted man.....)

you'd best head it the Nevada territories Cosmic, before the sheriff sees you.

DMT
Ian Jewell

climber
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:51pm PT
fvckin criminal .

grand theft auto .

22 months in county .
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
Yer goin' DOWN COZMIC ! Wait till the NSA and the DHS gets word of you needin' a stout BELAY !

Credit: The PARROTMAN of ALCATRAZ ! ! ! ON BELAY !
redrocker

climber
NV
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
Hey Cosmic, haven't you heard?

Everyone behind bars is innocent. :-)

johntp

Trad climber
socal
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
Dwain- PM sent.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:57pm PT
Yes!

Cosmic!

We know you only had one ticket in that 4 minute interval


buttt-----as we say in Idaho:

**When you're fuked
You're fuked.**


Good luck with the fukers!!!
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
Do you want me to send you some 22LR ammo?
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
It was not a camera.
The sheriff pulled me over.
not speeding, just didn't see the Right turn only sign.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:01pm PT
Might be an upgrade. How's your wife's cooking?

Three hots and a cot, no work required, sounds ok.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
how much did you plan on spending on your lawyers just after the ticket wa handed to you?


mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
Another fine mess...

Da-dump da-dump,
Da-dump da-dump,
Da da-da-da da dump-dump.

Actually, TWO fines, one mess.

Suck it up and buckle up and watch yer rear-view, Richard Kimble.

My last interview with a peace-loving officer, last Pleasant Valley Sunday, the Man actually called me "buddy."




redrocker

climber
NV
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
That really does blow Dwain. Hope it gets straightened out quickly with a minimum of aggravation.

In the meantime make sure to keep the original citation and receipt of payment on you at all times.
WBraun

climber
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
I was stopped TWICE in one day
within a FOUR minute period In my Toyota truck AND a Toyota Camry
in the same place and for the same infraction.

LOL Hahaha

Stooopid clerk can't see that is not possible.

Research this????

LOL

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:08pm PT
Yur a BAAAHHHHHHHDDD man!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
"In the meantime make sure to keep the original citation and receipt of payment on you at all times. "




The Problem is; On my receipt the cite number was for the Toyota Camry
ticket.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:15pm PT
Paging Franz Kafka,..
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:15pm PT
Get off the freaking taco and check your email!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 11:17pm PT
I did John. Check yours
redrocker

climber
NV
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:22pm PT

Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
"In the meantime make sure to keep the original citation and receipt of payment on you at all times. "




The Problem is; On my receipt the cite number was for the Toyota Camry
ticket.


Guess the Camry owner owes you a beer then. :-)
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
Rawwkk ...Cosmic's going to the big house ...Rawwwk...Cosmic want a cracker..? Raaawwk
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:25pm PT
cosmic, it does make sense that a clerk would not have the authority to remove a ticket...

she did say she needed to research it, probably talk to her supervisor to see how something so obviously wrong could be quickly cleared up

did she say she would call you after researching it or are you to call her in a few?

SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
Hey Dwain
I hope you get it straightened out okay!
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
Guys, this isn't funny.

Cosmic really can't afford this kind of hassle.

Wish I could help. Sounds like you need to negotiate some red tape at the least, but I don't know anything about this stuff.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:38pm PT
Guys, this isn't funny.

MMMMMMmm

Yeah it is.

Unless he actually goes to jail.

Just keep calling the courthouse and make sure it gets cleared up. Then get it in writing and keep it with you.

Also keep the reciept for the ticket. If you get stopped explain it to the officer .. they probably won't take you to jail once they confirm the story.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:39pm PT
Good luck. You have my number if you need it.

edit: This is not funny. Could be some serious consequences due to DMV/HiPo mistakes. Been there, done that and did not find any of it humorous.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 11:40pm PT
She said she was going to call me, Norton. within a couple of hours.
Never did hear from her. I am going to take time off from work tomorrow.
and go back to the courthouse and demand that this be taken care of right away so I don't run the risk of being arrested.
This is fukked because with only me working I can't afford to take time off
from work for this kind of BS!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
I wouldn't take time off unless you cannot get through with a phone call.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 11:45pm PT
Have you ever tried calling the Courthouse, Ski?
I'd probably be on the phone waiting for a clerk longer than
going in and waiting in line at the courthouse.

Six of one or half dozen of the other????

:)
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:46pm PT

Is there a reward?



SalNichols

Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
Do you even own a Camry?
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
Offering a kidney gets you out of a jamb...











































































In CHINA ! ! !
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:49pm PT
Does anybody at that courthouse own a brain or a set of scruples?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:49pm PT
Have you ever tried calling the Courthouse, Ski?

Not that one.. but many others...

The ole climbing bum days when registration and insurance took a backseat to gasoline.

Reminds me of something a judge once told me after spending about a minute listing my recent ticket infractions to the courtroom...

"This is Impressive"

I wasn't laughing.. but the rest of the folks in the courtroom did.
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:50pm PT
Cozmeeek, Sorry to hear of the Sutpidditty of Gubbermint landed in yr lap. All the best to get this sorted out kwik.


couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:51pm PT
Wishing you the best CC. ..stupid bureaucratic bullshit is bad juju for anyone.

...and it's not "you're gonna die" as noted above, the correct version here should be: "YER GONNA FRY".
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 11:54pm PT
No, I don't own a camry.
I can't even remember the last
time I even rode in a camry
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:57pm PT
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:59pm PT
and go back to the courthouse and demand that this be taken care of right away so I don't run the risk of being arrested

My advice, based on experience is to be very polite. Do not piss anyone off or your risk of being arrested could become a very immediate issue.

I got in a snafu like this with the court in Ridgecrest. Got a fixit ticket up there on a weekend. Back in LA, got it fixed, inspected by CHP, sent in the paperwork all the T's crossed. Got a notice a year later it had gone to warrant. When I went up there to straighten it out it was a nervy deal. Be real smooth when your walkin' around in a courthouse while there's a warrant out in your name.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 12:01am PT
^^^^^

I might get TAZED tomorrow when I refuse to leave the clerks
window till this thing is cleared up or at least get the warrant dropped
till this fukkin mess they created gets taken care of.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:01am PT
^^^

Thus why I'm big on the phone thing

Oh and don't trust them that they cleared it up once they say it's cleared up.. get it in writing and keep in on you for a while.. then call back a week later and see if there is still a warrent out.

Never trust em to get things right. Learned the hard way.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:04am PT
Cosmic, plz e-mail me if you can't get this cleared up with a call to the court. I don't do criminal / traffic stuff but I'm happy to help you out.
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:04am PT
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:08am PT
Dwain, they created it but you are the one in the line of fire and they hold the cards.

Take care.
10b4me

Ice climber
Wishes-He-Was-In-Arizona
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:13am PT
Stooopid clerk can't see that is not possible

Stupid American
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:16am PT
just relax, you ain't up for murder,

once it gets into the computer, it is something that needs to be handled by you and the stupid people who use this computer everyday,

frustrating? you bet,

one time i did a weekend work program for a DUI.

picked up trash every sunday in sanborn park near saratoga for 6 weeks,

completed the hassle,

6 months later a sheriff comes to my door with a warrant, saying i did not complete the program,talked myself out of the arrest, then went about clearing up the mess,

went back to the park, ranger had transferred to the east bay, he was the only guy who could clear me, sanborn park gave me his name, i got his phone number, called him up, he remembered me, told the cops that i did the program and the matter was dismissed.

problem is when the screw up is embedded in the computer, it can not be fixed without going thru the motions, your lack of guilt is on you to prove, as far as they are concerned, you got 2 tickets,

nothing good can come out of this except relief when you get it fixed, they ain't gonna pay you for your time or hassle, they may not even say that they are sorry,

just lump it in with all of life's other hassles and forget that it just happens to involve the cops,

make sure that the DMV is notified so that you do not get another point,

what a hassle, i feel for ya, don't get stressed, just do extra medication so you forget about it sooner,

makes a good story at the campfire when the subject is trouble,
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:28am PT
The person responsible for the f*#k up needs to be FIRED.

This is something that can't be excused as a *mistake*.

Too bad it won't happen, but it should.
Ian Jewell

climber
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:32am PT
i cant feel sorry for you

you RICH fvcker

driving around in two cars , when i can barely afford one.





how do you explain that bumper sticker - " my other car is a camry "
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:33am PT
hey there say, cosmic... am praying and hoping for this to be resolved soon...

stay polite, as all the folks said...

god bless...

thank you johntp and everyone that is trying to help...
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:39am PT
main piss off is that you have to pay for somebody else's f*#kup,

dealing with gov't Bureaucracy does not make it any easier,

small town Mayberry in 1960 and Andy lets you off with a smile,

all you get here is dirty looks from mutants who work for the city,

Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 12:40am PT
I am looking at the citation numbers now, and they are the same except the last number which is only 1 number different. and only 4 minutes different
How can I be in 2 vehicles at the same location and only 4 minutes apart?

The only thing I can think of is when I was flagged down, as he already
had someone else stopped for the same infraction, and he flagged another vehicle down after he stopped me, that maybe the Deputy entered my info,
on one one of the other drivers tickets he had pulled over.


Edit: I have both citation numbers because I asked for copies of both of them from the clerk.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:56am PT


Credit: Ward Trotter


In and for the county of San Bernadino...
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 01:05am PT
Cosmic, I'm sorry you are having to deal with this. Anything involving the law can be scary. It's obvious that it is a mistake, and it will be resolved in your favor. But the advice to stay calm and polite is the best course of action. You really should be able to resolve this in one visit. Someone should have the power to fix the mistake immediately - you just have to find out who is the right person to talk to, and see if you can get in to see that person.

Good luck, I'll be thinking about you.
Phyl
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 01:13am PT
^^^^^^
LOLOL



Thanks to Dr Sprock for the info about the points with DMV and how it would affect my insurance.

I didn't think about that, so, now I can make sure when I try to clear it up I mention to them to make sure it don't show up on my record.

It's such an OBVIOUS mistake I'm surprised they couldn't take care of it today rather than putting me off.

Fuk. I hope I don't get pulled over tomorrow on my way to the courthouse.

:)



I don't want to call the courthouse, and rather go in because I know how things can get misinterpreted over the phone
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 01:16am PT
Phylp;
That's what I did today, and it didn't get resolved,
so NIX the one visit deal.

:)
SalNichols

Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 01:18am PT
My parents got a $60 parking ticket in SF for a car that WAS NOT THEIRS at a time and date that they could prove (through hotel and food receipts) that they were in Pismo Beach. The Prix wouldn't budge until they called in the 7 on Your Side dude.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Aug 27, 2013 - 01:57am PT
Leave the dope at home.
Good luck!
The just talk to Jude should work fine for ya.
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Aug 27, 2013 - 04:47am PT
Good god, wtf?

There for you anytime!
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 27, 2013 - 06:13am PT
this is the only situation in which everything in the system is reversed,

you are guilty until proven innocent,

and the burden of proof is not on the prosecution, it is on the defendant,

nice to know a lawyer in a case like this,


mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 27, 2013 - 07:43am PT
This seeeeems to have been a mistake made by the citing officer.

He motioned CC over to the roadside after he stopped the mysterious White Car, could-be-Camry. So these two clowns were pulled over, a truck came along, and it, too, was flagged and ticketed.

He may have had a Camry pulled over first, CC is not sure what make/model of White Car it was. The problem seems to be that this Camry's info is crossed up somehow with Cosmic's license and the registration of the Camry, if indeed, it was a Camry. Of this, CC is not sure.

I can predict what the officer's response to questioning on this would be: a shrug, 'i don't know,' and a case dismissed. I can't see how a judge could be such a bastard as to let the citation stand, especially in view of Cosmic's unblemished past record, and the officer's lack of memory or plain evasion of truth...

Then he had to write not just two, but three citations, one after the next.

It's easy to deduct or to assume his zeal led to an error of some kind.

This is my take. There are other possibilities, but they are remote in comparison to the zealot's, if indeed it was his fault. I'd be willing to bet this is the situation, or near to it.

Of course, paying is not an option for our man. He is not guilty, so why should he pay? If he has to get lawyered up, I will be astounded.` But if he loses, not only will he have to pay the fine, accept points against his licensing, and then pay Shyster fees, on top.

So it's worth it for him to go sit at the clerk's office until the issue gets resolved.

Don't let the bastards wear you down, Cosmic.

And don't the the bastards wear your tie-dye, either.

Whatever hppens this all makes for a good soap opera. Hardly a crime drama.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 27, 2013 - 08:06am PT
My uncle had the same thing happen to him twice...The first time 2 cops tried to arrest him at home as he sat down to dinner..He told them he'd go with them after he finished eating but the cops grabbed him and were soon on the ground seeing stars...Never try to arrest a hungry prize fighter at dinner time...My uncle's manager straightened things out with a false arrest lawsuit when a clerical error created another visit by the fuzz...Good luck Cosmic...Don't let them ruffle your feathers...
frank wyman

Mountain climber
montana
Aug 27, 2013 - 09:07am PT
That Camry, Was it parked on a "Grassy Knoll" by chance?
matty

Trad climber
under the sea
Aug 27, 2013 - 09:24am PT
If the first ticket was for a car you do not own/did not drive why did you pay it? They may see that as an admission of guilt. I hope it works out Cosmic that is a tough situation. I feel for ya.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Aug 27, 2013 - 09:30am PT
This BOLO just came over the radio here in Mono County:

"Attention all units, BOLO for a White Toyota Pick-up with business logo on the doors, smoke pouring from the windows, driver wearing extremely loud tie-dye, looking completely bewildered. Wanted in Southern California for FTA....and being a complete noob."

: )
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 27, 2013 - 09:47am PT
"This seeeeems to have been a mistake made by the citing officer."



Not a mistake.

Sloppy, lazy, willful failure to do his goddamn job is what was done here. And he should be fired immediately.

When someone's freedom and liberty is in YOUR hands, you check - you double check - and then you check again BEFORE setting the legal shithammer in motion.

We pay these guys a good six-figure paycheck, and when they're done, we provide them with a millionaire's pension. There is absolutely NO excuse for not doing his job.

The cop's signature on the ticket(s) was signed under penalty of perjury. NO mistakes allowed. ( how understanding are they if you sign your name to an inaccurate loan application? ) Forgiveness only upon asking, and then only after proper penance is performed.

Sioux Juan

Big Wall climber
Costa mesa
Aug 27, 2013 - 10:02am PT
best of luck to you my friend
take that bumper sticker off your car that says ..............I hate pigs
oh sh!t ? did I say pigs ! Sorry !
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Aug 27, 2013 - 10:14am PT
Meh.. what a f*#king hassle. Keep a cool head.. be persistent and find the person who can fix it. ... in your copious free time.. driving two different vehicles in two alternate universes at once.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Aug 27, 2013 - 10:24am PT
Red: [narrating] There's a con like me in every prison in America, I guess. I'm the guy who can get it for you. Cigarettes, a bag of reefer if you're partial, a bottle of brandy to celebrate your kid's high school graduation. Damn near anything, within reason.


------------------------------------------------------------------------

Red: [narrating] The first night's the toughest, no doubt about it. They march you in naked as the day you were born, skin burning and half blind from that delousing sh#t they throw on you, and when they put you in that cell... and those bars slam home... that's when you know it's for real. A whole life blown away in the blink of an eye. Nothing left but all the time in the world to think about it.


------------------------------------------------------------------------


Have fun Cosmic!
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Aug 27, 2013 - 10:46am PT
Sorry to hear about this miscarriage of justice, Cosmic.

...reminds me of when Rox and I were arrested for kidnapping wolves... we were just giving them a ride to Cali
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 10:56am PT
"Wait til he finds out what this does to his internet reputation. "




No PROBLEM. My reputation was RUINED a long time ago!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 27, 2013 - 10:59am PT
Its the TIE-DYE.. Yur being PROFILED!
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Aug 27, 2013 - 11:15am PT
I wonder how you managed to drive two cars at once. I have heard that some people can be in two places at once, but usually they're not anywhere at all. Was that tie-dye camo?

Then again, you never know.




couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 27, 2013 - 11:20am PT


I'll try to help here with some legal advice. Just remember this line and keep repeating it as you stare down the bastards in the courthouse:
"IF THE GLOVE FIT, YOU MUST ACQUIT"
I'm pretty sure that works everytime.




Here's a jailhouse examination image of that kind of glove:





nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 27, 2013 - 11:25am PT
Now that Gertie has reappeared you'll have at least one visitor.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 27, 2013 - 11:27am PT
Clerks can not fix stuff like that, quickest fix is getting to a judge. Not sure how it works in San Berndardino, but usually you just go in the morning and ask to get on the calendar. Plan on being there until lunch. I am sure a judge would toss the Camry ticket, in any event the judge would recall the warrant.

Another option is contacting the LE department that wrote the ticket, they can dismiss it

If I was the judge and it got in front of me I would order the officer to appear in court and explain it. Of course that is exactly why they will never let me near a gavel and robe!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 11:42am PT
"If the first ticket was for a car you do not own/did not drive why did you pay it? They may see that as an admission of guilt."





The thing is, I got 2 letters within days, from the court right after I first got the ticket. I just figured they just double mailed me.
Both were for the same bail amount and at a glance both cite numbers were the same except for the last number which I didn't notice at the time,
so I just took one of the bail letters to the court to pay the fine.
Unfotunatly the letter I took to the court was for the camry.
On the bail letter there was no mention of the type of vehicle, just the bail and the info on how to pay and info on a court hearing if I wanted to see the judge.

I didn't want to spend the time to see the judge because I was guilty of not doing the right turn only so I just paid the fine and figured it was over.
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
Another option is contacting the LE department that wrote the ticket, they can dismiss it

Because he paid someone else's ticket, he will still have to get that straightened out, have that payment transferred to his account, as well as getting the warrent dismissed. Can the police manage all that from their computers or has it gone to a higher power at this point. not simple!

A few months ago I got a parking ticket on my RV for parking in a temporary no parking zone. the public works dept were doing something and they had put up the no parking signs. However I had parked the RV in the late afternoon, and they put up the signs after I parked. Since parking on our streets is legal for 36 hours, The publics works is supposed to to put the signs up 36 hours in advance... I had a ticket less than 24 hours after I parked my RV.

I went to the police station and told them the time line and they called the ticketing officer on the phone and also called public works and were able to dismiss it then and there.

But it's true that any police staff will be able to see what happened in cosmic's case. Whether or not they have the power to fix ALL of this mess, I don't know.

Still hoping for a speedy resolution, Cosmic!
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
Dwain,
You can go directly to the County Court house and have this resolved.
You will need to schedule and appearance before the magistrate and have documentation.
Show up at the courthouse when they open in order to see the Judge the same day.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Well just got back from the courthouse.
They dropped the warrant and failure to appear charge and transferred my fine payment to the toyota truck.
Now I have to go back to see a judge next week on the camry to have them dismiss the charge on that ticket.

Before I went to the court I stopped by the Sheriffs department and got copies of both tickets to bring to the court. My name is at the top of both tickets but the signatures at the bottom are different.
The toy truck has my sig and the camry has someone elses sig.

The Deputy can't dismiss the ticket because it has already gone
thru the court system so I have to go see the judge to get it dismissed.

Royal FUKUP on their part and I'm the one who has to jump thru all the hoops, take time off from work losing money and wasting gas to get it fixed!!!

I've already lost a couple hundred dollars in work the last 2 days because of this.


WTF???
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:31pm PT
this is great news, cosmic!

you are getting it all fixed, in spite of it being all their fault
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:31pm PT
Glad it's starting to look better meek!

Crag.. lmao
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
Royal FUKUP on their part and I'm the one who has to jump thru all the hoops, take time off from work losing money and wasting gas to get it fixed!!!

sorry you have to deal with court bull shit!
glad it's gonna b okay!
smoke one for the judge!!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
All it takes is the word of some highly suspect sheriff or cop to get you
into this pile of doo-doo but funny how their word can't get you out of it.
Didn't Joseph Heller write a book about this?
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
The state courts seem to treat everyone like crap now. It is a budget issue. The budgets have been cut over and over and I get the impression that part of the court's strategy was to piss off the public until there was a public outcry to restore funding. Not happening.

What used to take days to process now takes weeks before a clerk even looks at it.

Cosmic, your lucky you did not get arrested when you went to get copies of the tickets. I am just half kidding when I say that!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
It's too bad I can't sue them for time lost from work, and money spent
on gas tryin to fix their fukup.
John M

climber
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:37pm PT
This is a case of what happens when too many cops fix tickets for friends or family. They lose the power to fix any ticket once it is in the system.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:38pm PT
So Gertie won't be able to visit you in the Big House?
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 02:39pm PT
Hey Jon.
I WAS worried when I went into the sheriffs dept.
but they would have looked really silly arresting me when they saw the 2 ticket with the almost same time stamps 2 vehicles and 2 different sigs
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
Well, you could sue if you wanted some more tickets..
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
Good luck suing the county in their own superior court, it is playing a baseball game where the home team gets to make the rules and pick the umpires. In any event they have immunity for stupidity (negligence)
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:50pm PT
I just got back and saw this. I was going to send you an email, Dwain, but it seems like you've already done what I would have recommended.

I'm probably the only person on ST who has both sat as a judge pro tem in traffic court and spent time in custody. The courts right now are under tremendous financial stress, because cutting the clerk's office's budget is politically much more palatable than making some other cuts. The courts are having problems all over California. There's no malice, and no "I'm a government employee, so you can't fire me" involved. They're just plain swamped.

If anyone else finds themselves in Cosmic's position, the first thing to do is to remove the arrest warrant. Simultaneously, one should notify the DMV, preferably in writing, about this situation. Believe it or not, both the courts and the DMV will actually try to help someone who treats them with civility. Otherwise, you're violating Eleazarian's Commandment: "Thou shalt not piss off those that can help you."

If the situation is not resolved to your liking, Dwain, please email me and I'll do what I can to help.

John
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Aug 27, 2013 - 02:51pm PT
hey there say, cosmic.... whewwwwwwwwwwww, thankful to hear this...

sorry for such a hard runaround... :(
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 03:00pm PT
Thanks, John E!
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Aug 27, 2013 - 03:07pm PT
I'm probably the only person on ST who has both sat as a judge pro tem in traffic court and spent time in custody.

Not many people can say that!
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 27, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
this is why cop cars don't have hubcaps,

if they did, disgruntled citizens would steal then and sell them on evilbay,
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 03:39pm PT
Oh well.
Things could have been worse.

Back in the late 70s when I was living in Ridgecrest,
I got a fix it ticket in the Lone Pine area. I fixed the tailight got it signed off and took the signoff and all the paperwork to the courthouse
up in Independance or Lone Pine. I can't remember which.
I got the court receipt and thought it was all done.

Nine months later I am stopped by the Ridgecrest Police because
I hadn't recieved my tag for my registration yet. And after the stop and me explaining that I hadn't recieved the tag yet but I had proof that I sent the payment off in time by my checkbook stub. He informed me I had a
warrant for my arrest on a ticket frome the LP area.
He arrested me and then I was transported up there and spent the weekend in jail.

When I saw the judge on monday,I told him I had taken care of it.
But I didn't have or know where the court receipt was so I had to pay the huge fine, get my car out of impound and all the other BS.

After that I have made sure I keep the receipts from the couple other
tickets I've had over the years.

Thank goodness I kept all that info and receipts in the truck in my glove compartment so I have some sort of proof that I paid my fines just so something like that wouldn't happen again.

Thank goodness I kept what Little info and receipts that I had
Or I would have been royally Screwed!



zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Aug 27, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
Can you get tickets to the NCAA Final Four too?

Two would be perfect.

10b4me

Ice climber
Wishes-He-Was-In-Arizona
Aug 27, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
If your signature IS NOT on the Camry ticket, why do you have to pay the fine?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 27, 2013 - 10:09pm PT
He doesn't .. it will get cleared by the judge.. after he wastes more money from time off work.

Just a SNAFU

That's one of my favorite acronyms.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 10:13pm PT
Politeness, patience, and persistence pays off in the end. Sucks that it happened, and sucks that you have to pay the price for someone else's mistake, but anything other than being polite and patient and persistent will make it worse.
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Aug 27, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
Hey cosmic

If you had an ice axe
No need for a warrant

You could self arrest
turd

climber
Aug 27, 2013 - 11:33pm PT
Nine months later I am stopped by the Ridgecrest Police because
I hadn't recieved my tag for my registration yet. And after the stop and me explaining that I hadn't recieved the tag yet but I had proof that I sent the payment off in time by my checkbook stub. He informed me I had a
warrant for my arrest on a ticket frome the LP area.
He arrested me and then I was transported up there and spent the weekend in jail.


http://www.hulu.com/watch/12740

:)
phylp

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
You have made progress - YAY!
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Aug 28, 2013 - 01:05am PT
Cosmic, you get arrested, you call me and I'll come bail you out. Pretty sure I'm in your cell phone. I know you are in mine so I'll always take the call.

You can't get bail bonds for moving violations. I know I've tried.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2013 - 10:23am PT
I got the warrant and failure to appear dropped,Spider.
Now all I have to do is go to court next week to get the
Camry citation dropped, which wasn't me but my name was on the citation.
Hopefully it will all be taken care of then.

Thru all this I've been BESIDE myself with frustration, anger,
and trying to figure out how to fix this.


However, I have learned one IMPORTANT LESSON out of this;

NEVER, EVER, go straight, at a Right Turn Only,
in TWO Vehicles at the SAME time!!!!

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 28, 2013 - 10:25am PT
They dont call you COSMIC fer nuthin eh! Drivin two vehicles at a Time!
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Aug 28, 2013 - 10:44am PT
NEVER, EVER, go straight, at a Right Turn Only,
in TWO Vehicles at the SAME time!!!!
We need Ouch!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 28, 2013 - 10:49am PT
"How can you be,
In two places at once,
When you're not,
Anywhere at a-all?"
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2013 - 10:55am PT
^^^^^
That's what I've been trying to figure out, Jay
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 28, 2013 - 11:32am PT
CoZmic,

MI6 and I can get you into the witness protection program for $100,000.
No questions asked.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
^^^^^
Sorry Survival.
Don't have even close to that kind of money.
I'm sending most of my money back to Vegas to pay the bills.
Money is so short I have only been back to Vegas to see my wife
for 9 days since Jan 11.
What will $2.50 get me?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 28, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
A partial ownership in a "Free Cosmic" T-shirt!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
LOLOL ^^^^^^

What was that song about Hurricane




If I had of been arrested I could of ended
up like Steve Biko!

MisterE

climber
Aug 28, 2013 - 07:18pm PT
Here's one to cheer you up, My Friend:

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 28, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
Cosmic..Did they find that pound of meth i planted when they pulled you over...? RJ
MisterE

climber
Aug 28, 2013 - 10:34pm PT
Don't mind RJ - he'th juth methin' with you.

You gotta find that Camry guy, He got off scott free and YOU followed HIM into the infraction!
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
^^^^^^

The guy in the camry probably didnt get the initial court bail letter because it was sent to me. I thought I just got double mailed with 2 bail letters. one mine and one his. Thats why I ended up paying the ticket on the camry and not my truck. I gave the wrong letter to the clerk whenI paid the fine
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 28, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
All them toyotas look alike eh!??
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Aug 28, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
As you stated earlier, it pays to drive alert and don't violate traffic laws.

Also, never take a questionable parking place. Park smart.


I only exceed the speed limit on highways where it's safe enough and then never more than 9 miles over the posted limit. Stay alert and slow down when you see the man. Also, stick to the exact posted limit when traveling through small towns in Idaho.


As it is, I can never go back to Seattle. Not that I would want to.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 29, 2013 - 01:12am PT
Besides being a Californian, how'd you get on the Seattle Shitlist?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 29, 2013 - 01:46am PT
I only exceed the speed limit on highways where it's safe enough and then never more than 9 miles over the posted limit

Ho, man, 9 over? You call yerself a Californicator? If I tell Uncle Stirling
that he might die laughing. The second day that Mt St Helens blew we were
coming back from City of the Rocks and I picked up two speedos in a couple of hours.

"Damn, officer, we're just trying to get home alive!"
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Aug 29, 2013 - 01:56am PT
Is there a REWARD yet?
weezy

climber
Aug 29, 2013 - 03:30am PT
Stay alert and slow down when you see the man.

this is really bad advise.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 29, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
I have had the best results by staying 2 to 3 over the limit. Seems it's not enough to pull you over but it perhaps shows that you aren't worried about them either.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Aug 29, 2013 - 02:32pm PT
For some reason I'm reminded of a line from Breaking Bad from a few years ago.

Jesse: "You don't need a criminal lawyer.....you need a Criminal.....lawyer!"
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Aug 29, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
I knew you were a criminal when I read your very first post.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2013 - 05:19pm PT


rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 30, 2013 - 12:55am PT
I think Double Jeopardy is an accurate description of your misfortune...being tried twice for the same crime....?
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:03am PT
it's exactly like an overdue library book, only different,

these little hassles in life prepare you for the end,

when you number does come up, you don't fell so bad about checking out of this sh#t ball we call earth,

10b4me

Ice climber
Wishes-He-Was-In-Arizona
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:04am PT
Cops are more suspicious of people driving to slow than they are of people driving five to ten miles over the speed limit.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 30, 2013 - 01:07am PT
there are just too many cops these days, thats all.

Neal Cassidy use to steal cars when he was all boozed up, and then drive down mountain passes at 90 mph, never got caught,

well, a few times, maybe,

you can buy a real police badge at the pawn shop, don't know how they get them,
just keep one in the glove box,

best one is a CHP badge because they are good in the whole state,

just tell the man, "yeah, ain't too many body parts i haven't picked up" and he will send you on your merry way,

Deekaid

climber
Aug 30, 2013 - 11:26am PT
Agree 10b4me,

I got pulled over doing 40 in a 50 zone. Cop told me that is one of the first things they look for in regards to drunk drivers, going too slow.

I was doing it to save gas as I was almost out and I had been drinking, had an open container but he was apparently hypnotized by the climbing gear in the bed of my truck.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 30, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
DR Sp

Lol at your comment about the BS life occasionally throws at ya. Never quite thought of it that way. Morbid a bit but I suppose there's a silver lining in everything.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Aug 30, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
I have had the best results by staying 2 to 3 over the limit.
I have a fishin buddy that is a CHP occifer, he told me that most CHP will give ya 5 mph over the limit (highway) if conditions are good.

Stay chill Cosmic,
Tad
Loomis

climber
Svět
Aug 30, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#318867
eKat

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
Aug 30, 2013 - 06:27pm PT
In Shasta, a neighbor (whom I was giving a ride) kept hounding me to drive faster . . . said you can go 9 over in CA.

?

So. . . the next time I saw a CHP parked in town, I walked up and asked.

He said:

"Five, you're alive.

Seven may be heaven.

Nine, you're mine!"

He then added,

"If we've got PC we can stop you for ONE over."

Then I asked,

"If you've got PC I could be standin' still, eh?"

He nodded and was impressed that I knew what PC meant!

:-)

T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Aug 30, 2013 - 06:32pm PT
eKat,
PC ?
Previous conviction?
I'm clueless,
Tad
eKat

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
Aug 30, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
Probable Cause

Like. . . tail lights out, no license plates. . . you know. . . infringements.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Aug 30, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
Thanx eKat
Copy that, out.
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