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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 26, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
TV, nice one.

I wonder what my 22LR's cost when I was 10 and used them to shoot crows on
the farm in Wisconsin. You got 25 cents from the county when you brought
the legs in to the local store where you could also re-arm. Not that I even
came close to one crow per round, the little devils were fiendishly clever,
but I'm thinking my profit margin was at least 95%.
perswig

climber
Aug 26, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
(that was Very clever, Reilly)

This guy's not worried about piddly calibers.


Dale

edit:
What about my over their heads, Dale?
Maggie's drawers here on that one, Ron!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
What about my over their heads, Dale?

.45-70 on a Maine license plate means moose on a different kind of plate.




Just back from the range and for the first time in ages no .22 plinkers. In fact nobody (for 10 minutes) and then just a couple that spent the better part of an hour firing 4, count 'em, 4 shots.

I tried out the 3 new pistols I got this month, and couldn't be more pleased, 3 home runs.
The target .22 was knocking over cans at 20m, the Sigg 938 not as accurate but surprisingly docile (and its got checkering, night sights and a 1911 style safety).

The PTR91 is a monster. I thought it would kick more, but I wasn't quite prepared for the blast.
The couple goes, "WTF!!?
The laser is worthless beyond 5m in daylight though, definitely a monster that should emerge at twilight.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Aug 26, 2013 - 08:46pm PT
Got a PTR-32 (7.62x39) a few years ago... Basically just the PTR-91 chambered in x39. With a good brake there is almost NO recoil with that heavy beast... Three round bursts are completely controllable.

Unfortunately PTR was recently driven out of our state... They're moving to South Carolina I believe. A great bunch of people too.
adatesman

climber
philadelphia, pa
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:45pm PT
The target .22 was knocking over cans at 20m

Not to quibble, but I'm not sure I'd qualify that as a "target gun". I assume it had not yet been sighted in/not yet found what it likes to shoot? My relatively cheap .22 air rifle (Benjamin NP Trail) holds 0.25" CtC at 30m, so I'm not seeing minute-of-can at 20m as being anything to brag about.

Then again, perhaps you're talking pistol? Not that I shoot it anywhere near that well, but IIRC my Pardini P10 (.177 single stroke pneumatic) was spec'd to do something like 0.1" CtC at 10m, which is well under minute-of-can. And seeing as that pistol was outmoded 20 years ago or so by more accurate designs...

:)

EDIT- Toker- Is this the one you saw me edit? Because if it is, I quite literally hit Post, then edit, added the second paragraph, posted, edited again to clarify wording, and then saved it. Took about 2 minutes in total, from beginning the post to the final save. Not sure how that runs afoul of any unspoken rules regarding editing... Mind sharing a link to the rulebook?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 10:56pm PT
I said it was a 22/45.
A semi-auto .22 pistol with a bull barrel,.. yeah it's a target gun, though I suppose it could take small game.

I should hope you can do better with a rifle.

But I was starting much closer and kept chasing multiple cans on sub-second intervals. Sheesh!


EDIT
BTW, you edited without saying so (poor form)
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
I've got a BB gun with enough BB's to put out the eyes of any jihadist between Park City and Flagstaff. PM if interested.
adatesman

climber
philadelphia, pa
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:14pm PT
Just poking in jest, Toker... Frankly I grew up chasing cans with a .22. And would still be doing it if I had the space...

Frankly this is where the airgun thing has skewed my view on things... As much fun as ricing out a 10/22 to make it somewhat accurate is, for about the same money you can pick up a used FWB CO2 air rifle. From an accuracy standpoint they're not even the same game; the FWB is orders of magnitude more accurate and will really test your abilities. The riced 10/22, not so much. Then again, no way you'll be offing the squirrels in the attic with the FWB. But it's not meant for that.

Anyway, hope I didn't offend with the "not a target gun" thing.... :)

EDIT- I apparently edited something above without saying so, and am now aware it is bad form. Sometimes my fingers hit Post Reply before my brain finished the thought. My bad. Hopefully Toker will forgive me.

EDIT x2- Just realized I'm in a SYG state. Crap.... I think Toker has the right to shoot me over this. :(
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
Scott Volquartsen sent me an email a month ago and said my rifle will be ready in a few months.

We'll see who poo-poos the .22 after it replaces my AMT.
adatesman

climber
philadelphia, pa
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:21pm PT
Volquartsen? Meh.

EDIT- to each their own, I guess.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 26, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
Is that a challenge?$$$$
Crack-N-Up

Big Wall climber
South of the Mason Dixon line
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
Just bought two 50 round CCI boxes of standard velocity .22 caliber LR (three box limit per man per day) $5.50 + tax, Atlanta area. They had shelves of most common center-fire in bulk, just not much selection. They had CCI .22 WMR. They have had shot gun ammo for some time now here and seem to have various rifle ammo in stock, whereas the obscure/expensive was available for some time now.

I was told a week ago (when they were out of stock)the reason was because there were people buying out everything in .22. The reason center-fire was in stock was because the manufacturers made more profit on center fire.
adatesman

climber
philadelphia, pa
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:33pm PT
If you want to take it as such, sure! Once your Volquartsen arrives pick up something accurate, put them on a bench and see which shoots better. Sure, Volquartsen makes nice upgrades to factory guns and whatnot, but they're not exactly the pinnacle of precision and accuracy.

(Note: intending this as friendly joking around, not trolling or other ugliness. As mentioned above, the taste of Olympic-quality guns has skewed my view of what "accuracy" means. :) )

{Edit because phone hates "Volquartsen"}
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Aug 27, 2013 - 12:05am PT
Last time I was at the border I asked the Canadian guard if I could bring back ammo from the US. He said he could care less for up to 5000 rounds at a time, but if the US found out I was pulling any out of the country they would arrest me.


I think the point is that they want all guns and ammo going through their buddy's companies. Much easier to control that way.


Pretty sure you would need a business license to bring the ammo back to the US as well.

adatesman

climber
philadelphia, pa
Aug 27, 2013 - 05:57pm PT
Toker- if you don't mind, tell me more about this Volquartsen rifle you have on order. Been ages since I looked at there stuff (think I put their trigger kit in my MKII ages and ages ago), and was pleasantly surprised to see they're making their own complete firearms now.

That said, was disappointed to see all the silly options for various fluting, stocks and whatnot. That seems to me to be capitalizing on the name rather than simply making the best gun possible. Kinda like pinstripes adding 5HP to the car. Don't get me wrong, my impression of Volquartsen has always been positive. But when talking the bleeding edge of accuracy, names like Anschutz, Feinwerkbau, Pardini and the like are the names thrown around; not Volquartzen. Of course, with Olympic shooting events tending towards air rather than firearms (seemingly to get around countries having no-private-firearms policies), the days of precision European rimfire are already past. Even so, one day I will own a Toz 35M.

Btw, it occurs to me that minute-of-can at 20m is ~11MOA. In my book, "target gun" is sub-1MOA. :)

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Aug 27, 2013 - 06:06pm PT
MOA don't mean squat diddly if you don't know how to do MOH @ combat speed;)
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 27, 2013 - 06:58pm PT
Got to agree. I've heard that the "new" paradigm is not mere accuracy, but rather a combination of speed, accuracy and power.

Seems to me that it has been the paradigm since that scene near the start of 2001 with the bone.


I don't have the model # handy, but I wasn't looking for pin stripes. Of the 70+ 10/22 magazines I have more than 40 are 10 rounders for target rifles (bull barrels, bedded stocks, aftermarket triggers yada yada), so this V has one of those long thin fore-ends with a beefy mount and reciever. To me though the trigger is paramount.
adatesman

climber
philadelphia, pa
Aug 27, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
MOH?
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Aug 27, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
It's an operators term. Figuer it out... ;)
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Aug 27, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
Toker. not sure what the 2001 refrence is? Collnel Cooper came up with the speed, accuracy ,power thing a loooong time ago..

box of 40 fedral standard velocity .22lr $21.99 @ the Middway country store in Sharon VT... I bought 2 boxes there back in april for $7.99 ea. he keeps raising the price and moveing stock. says he gets it from mexico?
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