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Social climber
So Cal
Sep 9, 2013 - 07:06am PT
Why was the only middle east revolution that BHO, DID NOT! support, the one in Iran?
Dave Kos

Social climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 07:09am PT
It's amazing how many Middle East culture and history experts we have here in the climbing community.

Even more amazing that most of our experts wouldn't recognize Arabic or Persian if they heard it spoken, and have never even been to any of these places.

Fox News is a wonderful teacher.

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 9, 2013 - 07:27am PT
Nice photo TGT posted showing another example of conservatives screwing up.

why on earth would we EVER support radial islamists anywhere.?

Because who would want to support a tangential Islamist?

Sep 9, 2013 - 07:32am PT
Did it ever occur to any of us or any of the "media" for that matter that up to the point of actual bombs flying/invasion/shots fired, etc., this nutso rhetoric can be useful to the diplomatic process? Saber rattling is an age old, and not even unique to humans, technique for avoiding bloodshed. Problem is, we'll never know whether that's what this is or not... Rattlers can't admit it.

If that's what this is, man are we all playing our parts perfectly.

How could we ever get them to hand over their chemical weapons? Certainly not by dropping bombs...


Mountain climber
pac northwest
Sep 9, 2013 - 07:40am PT
Can't believe the threads I see here...."Syria"..."NSA Survelliance", "Religion and Politics" the meanwhile, your country became a big herd of FAT unhealthy, disgusting-looking and disgusting-thinking sheeple, because the industries your don't pay attention to, under the cover of exercising "freedom" (yeah, you love your "freedom"?--which in reality you have NONE of) poisoned your nation, and all your upcoming generations by hooking them on sugar and other "food" garbage, and poisoned their minds as well with pornography and general lewdness pouring from all screens and page covers. Any Arab looks better, healthier than almost any American at this point and is healthier in their heart and mind, I'm sad to state this.
Gross idiocy. You'll follow Soviet Union, why do you worry about Syria and NSA survellance, for christ sake. Worry about what's in your fridge and garbage ads popping off your screens. NSA doesn't need to spy on your nation: the things that most likely would be "uncovered" is hedonistic drivel about how they f*** someone or what they stuffed into their fat pie hole. Muslims terrorists don't need to kill your nation: it's killing itself already, they just need to wait.

Sep 9, 2013 - 08:58am PT

"Why was the only middle east revolution that BHO, DID NOT! support, the one in Iran?"

Translation: "Please God let everyone forget how much I supported Bush on Iraq."

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Sep 9, 2013 - 09:00am PT
tioga, good post.

Sep 9, 2013 - 09:19am PT
Tioga wrote two paragraphs basically saying ....

"Americans are stupid"

Just as Putin said same thing and many other world people.

Loud mouth arrogant "Ugly Americans" need to STFU and fix their own country.

Instead loud mouth "Ugly Americans" and stupid Zionist aszholes Isrehell scream to fix this country is to go thru Libya, Iraq, Syria, Iran etc
to get the oil and gas so that we can continue our selfish hedonistic stupid lifestyle at the expense of millions and billions of other living entities.

Americans are really stupid unconscious people .......

Social climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 03:05pm PT

6 PM our time. No brains: learn and listen. In fact tape and then go over 5-7 times and study Assad: listen to each word he says, reaction time to the questions, eye and hand movements, how he sits in the chair, leg movement.

As for Charlie he has his act together always has.

Questions tomorrow.

Mountain climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
Not going to take 'no' for an answer on Syria.

Credit: Bharata

Sep 9, 2013 - 05:22pm PT
Obama sees potential ‘breakthrough’ in Russia’s Syria proposal

President Obama on Monday called a Russian proposal for Syria to turn over control of its chemical weapons to international monitors in order to avoid a military strike a “potentially positive development,” that could represent a “significant breakthrough,” but he said he remains skeptical the Syrian government would follow through on its obligations based on its recent track record.

“Between the statements that we saw from the Russians — the statement today from the Syrians — this represents a potentially positive development,” Obama said in an interview with NBC News, according to a transcript provided by the network. “We are going to run this to ground. [Secretary of State] John Kerry will be talking to his Russian counterpart. We’re going to make sure that we see how serious these proposals are.”

Hahahaha, Syria giving up its chem weapons without a shot being fired?

You can feel the wingnuts panicking at the prospect - their whole narrative about Obama mishandling this instantly blows up in their faces, and he becomes the the master strategist, getting Putin and Assad to do exactly what he wants.


Meanwhile, the neocon wingnuts who so humiliatingly repented on Iraq, are left to wonder if they should have pushed military intervention in Syria, and at least been able to claim hindsight later if the situation worsens. Now all they get to admit how wrong they were on Syria AND how wrong they were on Iraq - nailing shut the coffin on their foreign policy bona fides as a party. They're finished.

If Obama can pull this off, there's no possible way he (and Kerry, whose idea the chem weapons-surrender was) could have played this better. None.


Sep 9, 2013 - 05:29pm PT
The top military brass, Dempsey, took Obummers football (nuke launcher) away from him because they don't trust him either.

So Obummer pissed and tries to convince the world he's sane.

The more Obummer runs his stupid mouth the more the world can see he's insane like Hedge.

It's the death of those stupid Zionist aszholes trying fuk the world for their own greedy selves.

By by aszholes ...... :-)
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 9, 2013 - 05:29pm PT
Snort~~ GUFFAW,, snicker...

Sep 9, 2013 - 05:31pm PT

"The top military brass, Dempsey, took Obummers football (nuke launcher) away from him because they don't trust him either."


Dr. F.

Boulder climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
Like Coz said
Werner is just f-ing with us
He can't really be that stupid to post the sh#t he does, right?

Sep 9, 2013 - 05:38pm PT

"He can't really be that stupid to post the sh#t he does, right?"

No Werner isn't as stupid as Rong - not even close, obviously, or there'd be a lot of dead climbers, instead of rescued ones

He just doesn't like me bullying the wingnut dipshits - it offends his sense of fairness

Stewart Johnson

lake forest
Sep 9, 2013 - 05:45pm PT

Bomb List

Guatemala 1954

Indonesia 1958

Cuba 1959-1961

Guatemala 1960

Congo 1964

Laos 1964-73

Vietnam 1961-73

Cambodia 1969-70

Guatemala 1967-69

Grenada 1983

Lebanon 1983, 1984 (both Lebanese and Syrian targets)

Libya 1986

El Salvador 1980s

Nicaragua 1980s

Iran 1987

Panama 1989

Iraq 1991 (Persian Gulf War)

Kuwait 1991

Somalia 1993

Bosnia 1994, 1995

Sudan 1998

Afghanistan 1998

Yugoslavia 1999

Yemen 2002

Iraq 1991-2003 (US/UK on regular no-fly-zone basis)

Iraq 2003-2011 (Second Gulf War)

Afghanistan 2001 to present

Pakistan 2007 to present

Somalia 2007-8, 2011 to present

Yemen 2009, 2011 to present

Libya 2011

Syria 2013?

Keeping our defense industry humming.

How has any of these actions "protected" the civilian population?

Sep 9, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
LOL ....

He just doesn't like me bullying the wingnut dipshits.

Well you got that right. :-)

Hahaha they took his football away

C'mon .... ya know it's probably true .... :-)

Sep 9, 2013 - 05:49pm PT

"How has any of these actions "protected" the civilian population?"

They sure as hell did in Kuwait and Bosnia

Kuwait is now the 5th richest country in the world, directly because of US military intervention

Funny how those who claim that US intervention in the ME always ends badly conveniently forget about Kuwait. It can be done successfully, if done correctly.
Jolly Roger

Trad climber
here and there
Sep 9, 2013 - 05:50pm PT
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Putin propose the handover of weapons, and din't he get Assad to agree. Where's the true media coverage?

So ask yourself.......

If the The point of bombing is to prevent the use of weapons, why didn't Obama propose what Putin has right off the bat? Instead it's we have to bomb you now.

Americans are being made the fool.

F the banker zionist. Go Putin
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