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WBraun

climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
Putin -- "How do I put this politely? You Americans are dumb."

I was right all along.

Americans are stupid .......
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Sep 8, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
obama now talks about "common sense" and "assad did it".. If we use COMMON SENSE, why on earth would we EVER support radial islamists anywhere.?

Of course, we are not. Who says so? John McCain.

Obviously, a US Senator specializing in intelligence knows FAR FAR less than a nevada taxidermist who's never been to Syria.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 8, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
Well this NV taxidermist has never lied about things to get us involved in wars that are none of our business. BUT WASHINGTON has,, OVER AND OVER AND OVER again my friend, ahhh you dont believe were on the eve of destruction.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Sep 8, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
I'll tell ya, if I wanted some foreign policy advice, I'd come right here to ST to read experts like Werner & Ron.
Psilocyborg

climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
how can you trust anyone these days? You are stupid if you trust anyone
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 8, 2013 - 04:22pm PT
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Sep 8, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
"Assad warned, the CBS interviewer said, that if there was a military strike by the United States, there would be retaliation by those aligned with Syria. Syria was as prepared as it could be for an attack, Rose said he was told by Assad."

One must wonder who these countries are which are aligned with Assad (Russia, etc??) and judging by how they have remained totally clear of the conflict so far, how and why would they suddenly back Assad once he has been attacked. What might they try and do, and to whom?

Yo thinks Assad is just funning himself thinking some other country is going to step up on his behalf.

JL
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 8, 2013 - 04:50pm PT
JL,, Russian involvement is there on the ground in Syria. Putin told Obama that the rebels did it. They have as much "solid" evidence as the EUs " probably" statement about Assad.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 8, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
Perceived indecisiveness and lack of resolve are reoccurring ignition points for disaster all the way back from the beginnings of recorded history to the last centuries slaughters.





Nothing ever changes.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 8, 2013 - 05:04pm PT
Who should the average American be for in that Civil war?



One side is Islamic. And has aligned with Al-Quay_duh and the Muslim Brotherhood, which thus far in every other country they got power, were fought , removed, or there is still fighting to get them removed. So obviously, not many people anywhere desire them to have power. (save for obama).

The other side is a dictator of the govt regime. Seems Christians of that country prefer him to the rebel side as a lesser of two evils. Beside the fact that the radical factions of islam on the rebel side will kill them on sight.


Is EITHER side "trustworthy" in any way shape or form? From the past decades of proof,, HELL NO...

Syrian citizens have been pouring out of hat country to avoid being stuck in the middle. Tens of thousands that want no part in either side. Seems odd that people with the most to loose choose not to take any side there, when a president all the way around the globe seems to be able to instantly take a side, based on a "probable".



So what IS probable here? The Syrian military, or the rebels? Or could it be yet another country involved in all of it? Iran? Russia? Afghanistan? All have direct ties , interests and involvement. Those are "probables" as well. You must step away from personal partisanship, govt loyalties and party line pressures. You must think logically and as if you were in each of the shoes mentioned above.

We have most all of us seen this act before. Time and time again... A Skunk will always be a skunk. How many more times will we buy the bs fed to us by those that WORK FOR US, while ignoring our wishes? And do you believe that our govt knows exaclty "how much" of a strike will prevent the use of WMDS any where? Really-- weve NEVER been able to do that thus far, in countless wars/conflicts previously.
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Sep 8, 2013 - 05:15pm PT

TGT likes citing VDH because he doesn't risk misspelling his name.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 8, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
http://theaviationist.com/2013/09/08/fencer-probe/#.UiztUj-XPfM
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Sep 8, 2013 - 06:29pm PT
Who should the average American be for in that Civil war?

Which side are you enlisting with?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Sep 8, 2013 - 06:38pm PT
Im enlisting with COMMON sense Wade.

Kinda like dealing with two fighting rattle snakes, no matter which one you save, the other is gonna bite you.. Why go there. Some mythical magical
little limited strike isnt going to dethrone, nor solve , nor do anything other than more dead of many sides.

92% of our conflicts since WW11 have more than proven this.
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Sep 8, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
When two rattlesnakes are fighting, what do you think of the person saying, "I need to join in here. It's in my best interest?"

Also, per Russian involvement "there on the ground in Syria."

In what manner are Russians "there" (a few military advisers, etc??),and what is the source of your intel?

JL
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Sep 8, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
Kinda like dealing with two fighting rattle snakes, no matter which one you save, the other is gonna bite you.. Why go there.

Interesting analogy. This is not our fight.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 8, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
There are (or were) several hundred Russian advisers in Syria in training and maintenance capacities. Russia has sold millions of higher tech aircraft and missile systems to Assad Like most of his neighbors he doesn't have the home grown technical capability to maintain the stuff.

We have the same kind of relationship with the gulf states except that most all of the technicians are civilian contractors and not military personnel. An airstrike on Assad's air defense system is gonna kill Russian soldiers as well, not some civilian contractors that could be dismissed as mercenaries.

Russia evacuated several hundred people just a week or two ago.

Then there's the naval base at Tartus. This is the last foreign major military presence the Russians have and presumably a big deal for them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_naval_facility_in_Tartus

WBraun

climber
Sep 8, 2013 - 07:37pm PT
This is not our fight.


Then why those lying jackasses Oblunder and those two major stupid lying stooges Kerry and McCain saying it is so?

All these despicable sold out lying treasonous leaders.

Just like 911 again same lies and lying media blitzes.

Even the American intelligence agencies are not lying this time

U.S. intelligence officials are not so certain that the suspected chemical attack was carried out on Assadís.

Yet the jackass Kerry keeps saying it's "undeniable"

Putin is right -- "Americans are stupid" You hear that Kerry McCain Obama?

Of course they hear but don't care.

They need to further that agenda of that pipeline thru the Mideast at any cost.

Everything else is collateral damage .....
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 8, 2013 - 07:40pm PT
While this whole episode has shown Obama to be at worst a complicit supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and at best an incompetent naif, it's also revealed that McLame is batshit crazy.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Sep 8, 2013 - 07:46pm PT
It's a bit surreal to see John Kerry beating the drum for war after his history, and disappointing to see Obama struggling to justify a supposedly limited attack which has an unknown and hardly limited number of possible outcomes.

I hate to say it, but I'm with Sarah Palin on this one - "Let Allah sort it out."

America needs to fix The US instead of trying to fix The ME.
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