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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Aug 27, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
Any one at all who thinks America should lob bombs or send troops should go over there, personally, and do whatever they think others should do on their behalf.

DMT
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Aug 27, 2013 - 04:43pm PT

...Get in their Obama and finally wipe this POS out ...

...There will be no troops on the ground.
You can not let dictators gas their people ...
What kind of as#@&%e are you
Kind of guy who would watch and do nothing while woman and children are raped?

Riley beats the drums of war, and if you dare to challenge his twisted logic you're a MORON for sure.

How do you wipe out this dictator without troops on the ground? I guess you could bomb the place back to the stone age (remember that choice remark by Curtis Lemay during the Vietnam war?) How many women and children to do it your way Riley?

Haven't we seen this movie before? Next thing you know they'll be telling us that Hassad has Saddam's WMDs.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 27, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
I find it more than mildly paradoxical that Obama expresses outrage over
this and deems it worthy of a token military strike yet millions continue
to die in deepest darkest Africa to which we have sent all of a few dozen advisors.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 27, 2013 - 05:18pm PT
We're f*#ked. I heard they're running out of money to fight the Rim fire but there's plenty of money to buy cruise missiles. Guess everybody in D.C. owns Defense stocks.

Hope they understand more about what's going on than they did when they threw us into Iraq.

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Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Aug 27, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
Next thing you know they'll be telling us that Hassad has Saddam's WMDs.

"They" have been telling us this for years.

When it became clear to everyone that we were not going to find any WMDs in Iraq, an explanation we often heard from war apologists and Bush supporters is that Saddam sent the WMDs to Syria just before the US invasion.

Of course there is no evidence that this happened, but the WMDs have to be somewhere, and since we did not find them in Iraq ...

Guess everybody in D.C. owns Defense stocks.

Not quite, but many in D.C. are directly on the Defense payroll or receive campaign donations from contractors and their lobbyists.

There's a reason Fairfax county is one of the most expensive places for real estate in the U.S. You'll find more high end luxury cars in the Pentagon parking lot than you will in Silicon Valley.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Aug 27, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
"They" have been telling us this for years.

Yes I know. The foundation is laid...

And there was that thing about Saddam gassing the Kurds too. He had to go! Oh wait, didn't we sell him that stuff?
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Aug 27, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
The law is well established that you cannot blame the manufacturer for
the misuse of their products.

Choke on a steak cannot sue the rancher.
Run over in a crosswalk by a silent running Volt cannot sue Chevrolet.
Saddam poisons you with nerve gas cannot sue US.

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 27, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
The manufacturer is dead.





John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 27, 2013 - 05:55pm PT
The "Red Line" business came out when Obama was in Israel. Israel is happy. I guess if Israel is happy, we should be happy.

The post upthread about Sarin was spot on. Fact is, in a confined space, tear gas is fatal.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Aug 27, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
Let’s see where have I heard or seen this before:

US say they will hit strategic targets soon but will not tell when or the time or day; mostly at night time when people are asleep. They will only hit military, government and missile sites plus they say it will be a surprise.

Assad has now been warned for weeks about this; what could be going through his mine as well as his generals:

Citizens between the ages of 60-80, children and women are being rounded up and placed in front of, around, on top of the roofs, in the buildings, cooking, dancing, singing, watching TV and reading in or at these military, government and missile sites.

Assad couldn’t that cruel could he?
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 27, 2013 - 07:05pm PT
The problem is, the U.S. is being hypocritical here. We didn't give a sh#t when it was us setting fire to civilians in Vietnam. That was an "accident" so it was ok.

Obviously, Assad has had an accident. If it was on purpose, there would be thousands dead, tens of thousands, that would fill the "Red Line" bill.

So for the US to strike, we have to accept that we are hypocritical, our accidents are ok, everybody else's are not ok. This does not come to the Red Line, Obama should do nothing, he should let McCain, Pelosi and their ilk take a stock market beating.

We have drones which execute people routinely throughout the Middle East, people are labeled as "terrorists" and good night irene. The next terror strike in the US, will undoubtedly be by some sort of robot. Though in the Middle East, a kid willing to become a martyr is probably equivalent.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Aug 27, 2013 - 07:18pm PT

Always good to turn to our last honest news source, the Onion:


WASHINGTON—In light of increased pressure on President Obama to order a military strike on Syria, leading historians and military experts on Tuesday simply pointed to the United States’ longstanding and absolutely impeccable record of successful bombing campaigns over the past 60 years. “The record clearly shows that, in every instance since the Second World War in which the U.S. government has launched strategic missile attacks on foreign soil, our military forces easily targeted enemy assailants with total precision, leaving no civilian casualties, collateral damage, or any long-term negative consequences for the affected country or region, American foreign policy, or international relations as a whole,” said Harvard University historian Dr. Michael Carmona, adding that such past U.S. bombing operations have gone particularly well in Middle Eastern countries over the last century. “Just look at the 1954 bombings in Guatemala, the 1965-to-1973 bombings in Laos and Cambodia, the 1982 bombings in Beirut, the 1986 bombings in Libya, the 1987 bombings in Iran, the 1998 bombings in Iraq, the 1998 bombings in Sudan, the 1998 bombings in Afghanistan, routine airstrikes in Pakistan since 2005, the 2007 bombings in Somalia, the 2011 bombings in Somalia, and essentially the entire American military effort in Vietnam from 1960 to 1975. Those were all executed perfectly, and led, in the long run, to the most desirable possible outcome.” All experts on the subject then agreed unanimously that, if you want to create positive and lasting change in a troubled region, change that you will one day look back on with a deep sense of confidence, pride, and assurance that you did the right thing, then bombing campaigns are almost always the way to go.
WBraun

climber
Aug 27, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
Assad didn't do it.

False flag ops (Israel & Saudis) did it to drag US into another quagmire.

Israel is completely in Washington.

They run the USA by proxy.

Americans are stooopider then all stoopid.

All useless stupid idiots just destroying everything they touch.

You should all be ashamed ......

sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Aug 27, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
As long as Monday night football isn't interrupted, who cares?
WBraun

climber
Aug 27, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
who cares?


If you don't care then you're in it.

Then that means you're a hypocrite and murderer of humanity by proxy ......
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Aug 27, 2013 - 07:32pm PT
Sarcasm sir
The whole situation is disgusting
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Aug 27, 2013 - 07:50pm PT

Nicely put Pud !
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Aug 27, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
Werner,

Can't argue on that, so funny that they are so quite about things today.
Dead give away.


Myanmar next down the road will it turn into another Afghanistan?
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Aug 27, 2013 - 08:13pm PT
Credit: internet
Largo

Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
Aug 27, 2013 - 08:46pm PT
Any one at all who thinks America should lob bombs or send troops should go over there, personally, and do whatever they think others should do on their behalf.
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Whatever you are not willing to do your very own self you have no right to ask others to do for you.

Also, if Obammmma went around and asked China, Russia, Japan, Germany, Norway, France, India, and the other nations who generate money what they were goig to do about the Syrian situation, right now, what do you think they would say, and why. And what other Arab nations are stepping up to stop things?

Please . . .

There's no way to proffit form such an effort. And why would China or Russia spend a dime on the Arabs? They probably would stand to lose money or strategic advantages if Assad went down, so no other nation is going to step up and do anything - imagine it otherwise.

Imagine the Chinese saying, "This gassing is crossing the line. We intend to stop it right now. We'll start with lobbing some bombs at this and that, trying not to kill too many widows and orphans, but you know how this stuff goes. Sorry."

Likely? Anyone else stepping up? Why not, do you reckon?

JL
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