Fun Times with Heart Disease....


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Trad climber
Hustle City
Aug 16, 2013 - 12:05am PT
Good luck!

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Aug 16, 2013 - 12:06am PT
So sorry to hear this, good luck Paul. If I was a religious guy I would pray for you.

Ice climber
Aug 16, 2013 - 12:44am PT
Good luck. Just curious, is this hereditary?

Social climber
North Vancouver BC
Aug 16, 2013 - 12:45am PT
A few words of advice on statins "Some scientists believe the statins are overused. Their use has expanded into areas where they provide lesser benefit, and lesser evidence of benefit. The lower the risk of cardiovascular events, the lower the ratio is of benefits to costs. The US market for statins nearly tripled when the National Cholesterol Education Program revised its guidelines to recommend statins as primary prevention. Although the panel cited randomized trials to support statin therapy for primary prevention of occlusive cardiovascular disease, a report in Lancet notes, "not one of the studies provides such evidence." [16] Journalists have questioned the interests of the doctors who made such recommendations, as eight of the 9 doctors on the panel were discovered to have been paid by statin manufacturers]
A smaller group of scientists, The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics, question the lipid hypothesis and argue that elevated cholesterol has not been adequately shown to cause heart disease. These organizations maintain that statins are not as beneficial or safe as suggested.[18] The beneficial effects of statins are suggested to be due to their working as vitamin D analogues.[19]" Wikipedia

I have a serious heart arrhythmia and was prescribed Lipitor, the most obvious side effects for me where compromised brain function and the ability to verbalize thoughts.
I now take 2000 mg Niacin daily and my good cholesterol HDL levels outweigh the LDL levels.

There is a definite financial incentive for drug companies to have you use high cost, low value prescription drugs.

Coupons are distributed by drug manufacturers to encourage insured consumers to choose expensive branded drugs over generics or other more affordable brands in the same therapeutic class. There is growing concern about their potential cost: Based on current trends, copay coupons will increase prescription drug costs by $32 billion over the next ten years for employers, unions and other plan sponsors.

Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
Aug 16, 2013 - 01:08am PT
Genetics in action, but don't despair. Our friend had a situation similar to yours - went in for routine checkup and they wouldn't let him out of the hospital. had quintuple bypass surgery the next day. got on statins immediately afterwards (like his Dad), and has been great for the past 10 years.

Because of his family history he was expecting to have to go on them "someday" but the young age and the advanced state of the blockage really took him by surprise. Take care of yourself and all the best.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Aug 16, 2013 - 01:12am PT
What ??????

Call me to tonight dude
I have a new phone so I lost your number
But I know you are more responsible ..

Call me ...

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2013 - 01:20am PT
My family has the worst history....moms side: her mom and 3 Bros died from heart attack, one at 32. My mom has had 2 open heart surgeries. Dad's side: both his parents died from it and his bro had a slight one, but caught early and survived. Both my sister and I have high cholesterol and are on meds.

I knew it was just a matter of time, but not 20 years early.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Aug 16, 2013 - 01:32am PT
How was this diagnosed?
EKG ? What occurred ? Stress test ? MI?
U haven't been cathed yet ??

Our modern diet is far far worse than our parents .
We are finding CAD in 3 year olds now

Luckily Essylstien's studies show us that we can reverse this stuff now.
The diet is super strict but it works ..
There is just a massive amount of new research on all this stuff.

Call me when you can
I'm working pretty much 24/7 right now
Can talk almost anytime

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Aug 16, 2013 - 02:59am PT
Wow, that is a tough family history! Please do stay on top of it all.

Trad climber
Aug 16, 2013 - 07:49am PT

At 59, I had a stent put in my LAD last November. Doc said there was 95-99% blockage. Funny thing was I felt great when running/hiking/climbing but had chest discomfort when sitting at my desk. Had good BP and low heart rate. Cholesterol had risen in the last two years...

Two months after the stent I was hiking/caving/snorkeling in Belize. Started climbing again after another month. Took it easy for a while - only TR because I was afraid to lead while on the platelet inhibitor. I'm still taking that (until November) but started leading easier well-protected routes that I don't expect to fall on. Not pushing it yet.

Hope things work out for you. Either stent or bypass, take your meds, do the cardiac rehab if you can, take it easy for a while. You'll be fine.
Bill Mc Kirgan

Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Aug 16, 2013 - 08:52am PT
Good luck Paul!

I'll be keeping you in my prayers for comfort and healing. I also pray for the attentiveness of the team that will be taking care of you.


Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 16, 2013 - 09:04am PT
Good luck Paul.

I'm sure you'll be pulling down in no time.

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Aug 16, 2013 - 09:59am PT
Paul...same for me..My dad had his first heart attack at too. My uncle and grandfather both died from them.

Science is amazing and it is a great time to be alive. The only medicine I take is a aspirin a day.

This may sound weird but after finding out what needed to be done, I kinda embraced it and it turned out pretty well for me.

Again feel free to contact me if you ever want to talk.
Alan Rubin

Aug 16, 2013 - 11:29am PT
I had a stent put in almost exactly two years ago, my situation complicated by other, apparantly unrelated, medical issues. I got back to climbing--easy top-ropes--within a few weeks, though the other issues definitely slowed down my recovery. But for the past year, especially since I got off the plavix, I've been feeling quite good for an old guy, and climbing as much as ever at my own modest grade-level. I'm still using crestor, metroprolol,fish oil, and aspirin but don't notice any side effects, and my cholesterol levels are much better than they were before my "episode" (wasn't quite a heart attack, so the doctors told me). I'm sure that you'll feel significantly better after your surgery. Best of luck to you and a speedy recovery.

Bob D'A if we both make it to the Gunks reunion (if there is indeed one) in Oct. you and I, maybe Dr. Robinson (and others) should have a "coronary veterans" team climb of some appropriate route--Coronary, maybe!!!!

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 16, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
Scheduled for an angiogram at the VA hospital in Palo Alto this coming Wednesday the 21st. (I don't have private insurance)

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2013 - 11:39pm PT
Had the angiogram today. They found multiple constructions in all 3 arteries of the heart. Doc said that they are going to do multiple stents over several visits. Ugh
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 21, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
Dang man! I hear they are doing great things these days though.. Youll be good for another 500,000 miles! Luck be with you...

Ice climber
Aug 22, 2013 - 12:15am PT
Sorry to hear that Paul. Best of luck. my grandfather, and two uncles died from heart attacks.

Aug 22, 2013 - 12:29am PT
Stable angina caused me to go to a stent man. Surprise, surprise he put in 5 stents. No difference at all. My sister-in-law was on rat poison. Her brain blew up, as did that of a neighbor. I was counseled to go on beta blocker and aspirin. Better, but don't use either. I just take care never to push.

Oh, when it gets over 100F I can still do the same amount of work once the heart gets tuned in. However, I have learned never to be more than 10 feet from a gallon of ice water. Ice water is where it's at. (non-medical opinion)

With robots they apparently don't crack the sternum. Just thinking about that is enough to cause one to blanch.

Social climber
Aug 22, 2013 - 12:40am PT
Five years to the day since my MI.

Not CAD related......but related to being a woman-of-a-certain-age .

Hope the stenting goes well....
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