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10b4me

Ice climber
Wishes-He-Was-In-Arizona
Aug 20, 2013 - 07:47am PT
You know, when I was younger, I didn't mind the Sierra talus, but as I have gotten older, I have really come to dislike it.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Aug 20, 2013 - 08:04am PT
The talus, in my opinion, is a necessary evil.

It is certainly a very dangerous place....one where all of us need to use the utmost caution.

When I think of someone like Matt, who likely chose a VERY big day/itinerary and needed to move fast to get it all in, I think of those talus fields he was going to have to cross...especially during egress, when one is tired.

There's trouble there....
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Aug 20, 2013 - 08:33am PT
Great job mattyj on the work and write up.

I feel better about that particular drainage now as well.




this just in

climber
north fork
Aug 20, 2013 - 09:11am PT

http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Mt-Ritter/t12084n.html
At the time of my trip I had no idea Matt was missing. This TR is not a search trip, but if any of the info is helpful, feel free to use it. That talus is some of the craziest I've encountered in the Sierra, several blocks were dislodged on our class 2 scramble. The biggest was a meter by meter big. I agree the more tired you are the more dangerous it is.

To Matt's family, no words can comfort you, but I send my best thoughts your way.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 20, 2013 - 09:57am PT
Hell - an endless talus slope. Extraordinarily difficult to search.
tdg119

Social climber
Northampton, PA
Aug 20, 2013 - 11:09am PT
In the picture with the dog from "ritter from kieser peal' what is that the dog looking at? Crazy long shot but looks like a person in tan pants, with a blue shirt, raising both hands who is having trouble standing upright. -Ron
Credit: tdg119
Credit: tdg119
Credit: tdg119
Credit: tdg119
Credit: tdg119
Credit: tdg119
Credit: tdg119
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 20, 2013 - 11:11am PT
interesting,, but wouldnt they have seen someone that close.? especially upright.? And the Dawgs eye posture and loose lips seem relaxed, and not particularly interested. But it DOES look like someone in light pants and possibly a blu shirt doesnt it!
tdg119

Social climber
Northampton, PA
Aug 20, 2013 - 11:22am PT
on the master photo the object is in the shadows, so maybe they could not see. also maybe any calls for help were bounced off the mountains and the dog heard it. i havent been out there so i cant judge distance at all...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 20, 2013 - 11:25am PT
All things are possible. If i had to make a guess id say its about five hundred feet from the dog to the image. You know how cameras are. rough guess.
this just in

climber
north fork
Aug 20, 2013 - 11:28am PT
Ron that photo was taken last year. The first few were from different ranges looking at Ritter from previous years.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 20, 2013 - 11:29am PT
Well then,, i guess that dood in the blu shirt is OUTTA there.! Thanks for the clarification..
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 20, 2013 - 11:31am PT
I see that pic posted is 1024 x 740. The original must be larger and a lot more detail could be pulled out of it. PM me with the original.
tdg119

Social climber
Northampton, PA
Aug 20, 2013 - 11:49am PT
thanks for the follow up. nice pics by the way. I never understood why matt or anyone for that matter would enjoy hiking but after all of this, now I understand. thanks everyone, you guys are truly amazing.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 20, 2013 - 11:54am PT
The pictures arent even close to justice of the MAGNIFICENT country the Sierras are. There are spots where your view is as far as the earths curve allows and eyes capable. Throw in crisp cool mtn air, water and entertaining wildlife. To be on top a pointy peak and see the world unfold BELOW you is the only rush if its kind really. Matt - for whatever conclusion comes here, was gifted in his ventures. And did some FINE climbs.!!
this just in

climber
north fork
Aug 20, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
When I get home from work, I'll post any talus and Glacier pics to this thread that aren't in my TR.
Regards,
Justin Ross
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Aug 20, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
I am looking for partners who may want to join me in my next search for Matthew.

After much consideration, I feel compelled to search the cliffs and gullies below the glacier on the east face of the Minarets, pictured below.

Minarets and glacier as seen from the summit of Carson Peak, shot with...
Minarets and glacier as seen from the summit of Carson Peak, shot with 300mm zoom.... in 2008.
Credit: Cragman

I shot this picture a few years ago with a 300mm lens from the summit of Carson Peak. There is considerably less snow this year, especially on the cliff band below the main glacier. In fact, that main central gully that drops down from the glacier, and is a normal access route, is totally melted out presently.

Even if Matthew was heading to Ritter/Banner, when you exit the treeline above Ediza, on your way to Ritter/Banner, and get a look at the size of the Minaret Glacier, I believe it may have been a magnet.

This year, getting to the glacier would pose some serious risk. My intent is to search the gullies, then gain the talus fields below the glacier and search the entire width.

Anyone interested, please leave a message here and I will PM ya.

Thanks,
DR
klk

Trad climber
cali
Aug 20, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
dean, i hate to say this, but that struck me as the likeliest of destinations, given the day pack/heavy boots scenario and his previous minaret experience. it was probably fairly dicey a month ago. gonna be worse now.


it was pretty sobering to see all that rockfall debris in mattyj's ritter/banner pix.

be careful.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Aug 20, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
i did Clyde in 77 the last year of a drought also. Maybe why i remember so much rock fall. Careful is right!
T H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Aug 20, 2013 - 01:30pm PT
... he gets in the zone when he's out there. He doesn't stop to look around, he is focused. His every step is precise, calculated, and intuitive. He would not appear to wonder aimlessly, or look around at the views. Unless of course he wants to stop and take in all in (usually for about 10 minutes while he eats, then it's back up and moving again). -Ron Minto
This sounds fine for relatively safe terrain, but in a technical setting, such as ice, it could get you in trouble if you are focused on going up and up, but not looking also at the consequences of a fall, or options for reversing moves etc.
tdg119

Social climber
Northampton, PA
Aug 20, 2013 - 01:50pm PT
I went through Matt's house today and found a trip report he'd written in 06' - a solo trip - also car trouble at end. Posted in case anyone wants to get into his mind. His skill is better after 7 years but I would think his way of thinking is in line.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2207307/Matt-Green-Trip-Report-2006-for-reference
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