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Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Sep 27, 2013 - 03:56pm PT
Early season dusting on Mt. Ritter and Banner....shot from near my home in June Lake.

Credit: Cragman
pacarockhound

Social climber
Escondido CA
Sep 27, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
Tiffany et al,

If the Bethlehem police can't make progress fast, I wonder if National Public Radio (NPR) based in ? Philadelphia? would take this on. Or Rachel Maddow.....

I am thinking a show that thinks outside the box....

Cragman, that is a beautiful photo. Can you predict when it might be safe to search?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HRKRNH
Sep 27, 2013 - 05:04pm PT
its NEVER "safe to search"....That whole area isnt "safe"...Its the Minarets. Awesome summits, LOUSY rock...
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Sep 27, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
Ron is correct.

Most of the snow that has fallen has already melted away...with continued warming in the forecast. However, anything on a north-facing aspect will likely stay for a while.

It was 25F here at the house this morning...much chillier in the high country.
Supermama

Social climber
pa
Sep 27, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
Hi Everyone...Green out at the football game tonight! The hosting team is in Bethlehem, Matt's home town, and wanted to show their support to Matt's family, students and colleagues. Hopefully the news will cover it.

Cragman...great photo...how could something so beautiful be so treacherous? Is that what attracts climbers? Looking at this picture reminds me of looking up into the night sky on a crisp autumn night and wondering how we survive in such a vast universe. It's amazing...

Tiffany...more money was raised today at our school for the search relief. Also, the t-shirt fundraiser ended today as well. If there is anything else we can do, please let me know. We are all thinking of you and your family.

Supermama
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Sep 27, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
"...how could something so beautiful be so treacherous? Is that what attracts climbers?"


You may get a number of different answers to this question depending upon who you ask.

I never met Matthew Greene. But through speaking with his family members, reading his journals, and feeling his spirit as I've searched for him, I believe I know him. I've had many conversations with him, though I've done all the talking.

I believe that Matthew and I are a lot alike. He was a mountaineer to the core....like me, it was simply in his soul. Had I asked him your question, my belief is that he would have responded with something along the lines below...


“Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.”

― Henry David Thoreau


Matthew Greene knew how to sing....
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Sep 27, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
“Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.”

― Henry David Thoreau


Matthew Greene knew how to sing....

+1

Thanks DR.
Bad Climber

climber
Sep 27, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
Nice to see a little Henry D. Matthew went too soon, but likely he went the way must of us would like to go, in the mountains, that is. I suppose we may never know what happened, which has gotta be hard for his family and friends. Last year I read The Last Season about a back country ranger who disappeared. Even with a massive search, it took a long, long time to find him.

RIP Mr. Green

BAd
The user formerly known as stzzo

climber
Sneaking up behind you
Sep 28, 2013 - 12:23am PT
how could something so beautiful be so treacherous?

Though hard to see from a distance, the treacherous part makes sense when you break it down to laws of nature.

Mountains can be crumbly. Loose rock means either person falling because the rock they're holding or standing on breaks, or rock falling onto person.

Snow and ice bring other hazards. Weather, even more (lightning, wet slippery rock, hypothermia...).

I'm in mammoth lakes this weekend; PM me if there's anything I can do to help.

Edit: regarding the question of what attracts climbers: http://bit.ly/18wXXbd
Supermama

Social climber
pa
Sep 28, 2013 - 08:41am PT
Cragman...if only everyone could learn how to sing. Beautiful...

stzzo...thanks for the offer. If you do any searching, please let split pants know so she can mark the map of places searched. Please be careful and let someone know where you are climbing.

Supermama
pacarockhound

Social climber
Escondido CA
Sep 28, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
Tioga, thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience.

My father used to go to the White Mtns. of NH every summer for a week by himself to decompress and rejuvenate.

I have been thinking about the difference between Mammoth mountains and the Lehigh Valley mountains where Matt (and I) grew up....I may find a photo...

It is comforting to know that an injured person (and animal I suppose) often goes into shock....
LAhiker

Social climber
Los Angeles
Sep 28, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
Tiffany, thanks for the update about the Pennsylvania detective. Though it’s frustrating that this is taking so long, I find it encouraging that they’re continuing to pursue the Hotmail account and library router records by various means. I hope that they realize that the fall search window is very limited and that their efforts bear fruit quickly.

(My suggestion of media pressure was meant only if no headway could be made going through the authorities first.)

Cragman, thanks for the photo and the update about the weather around Mammoth. Brrr!

I hope that at least at lower elevations the snow has pretty much melted. A Meetup group from southern California was doing a long dayhike there today, going from Agnew Meadows to Thousand Island Lake, down to Garnet Lake, and back to Agnew. I posted some info about Matt on their event page, though it sounds like their route was more northerly than Matt’s would have been if he’d been making a beeline to Ediza Lake and the Ritter/Banner area.

Tioga, thanks for your thoughts on being injured in the wilderness – they’re reassuring. I appreciate everyone’s reflections on why we go out into nature...
pacarockhound

Social climber
Escondido CA
Sep 28, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
Mountains in Bangor PA near Bethlehem, so different from Mammoth and y...
Mountains in Bangor PA near Bethlehem, so different from Mammoth and yet also beautiful
Credit: pacarockhound
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Sep 28, 2013 - 09:42pm PT
Went up to Minaret Vista today to record the extent of the snowmelt that has taken place in the past few days. It was 60F at the Vista, with a light breeze...a classic Fall day in the high country. I so desperately wanted to be back in the zone...


Be sure to click on these pics to enlarge them so you can see the detail...

Credit: Cragman

Banner and Ritter peaking up behind the Volcanic Ridge...note the extent of the crevasses on the east Banner glacier...

Credit: Cragman

Credit: Cragman

A 300mm zoom view of the search area that Cup and I searched a few weeks ago....

Credit: Cragman

Mammoth Mountain in a sugar coat....

Credit: Cragman
Supermama

Social climber
pa
Sep 29, 2013 - 11:22am PT
Thanks Cragman...stunning pictures.

Hopefully the weather will stay mild now.

Pacarockhound...a very familiar sight. Simple yet beautiful. The fall foliage is just beginning to show its color. A few more weeks and it will be a spectacular display.

Stzzo...Please let us know if you were able to get in any hiking this weekend. Thank you!

Supermama
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Sep 29, 2013 - 09:28pm PT
Shot this image of the Ritter Range right after I moved to Mammoth, almost 25 years ago....

Credit: Cragman

Thinking of Matthew tonight...
pacarockhound

Social climber
Escondido CA
Sep 30, 2013 - 02:31am PT
Beautiful!
OutdoorGal

Social climber
Lehigh Valley, PA
Sep 30, 2013 - 02:31pm PT
So was there a consensus opinion on areas to search based on the Morales info? Or was it determined he couldn't provide enough to go on? From his comment that he remembered a "B" place and that Banner rang a bell and was on the page he identifed in the Secor book, I wondered about Banner peak. Has that been focused on at all in the searches so far?
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Sep 30, 2013 - 03:17pm PT
I am not aware of any searches currently being conducted. Cragman searched near Banner in early Sept.
pacarockhound

Social climber
Escondido CA
Sep 30, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
I haven't been able to get a clear picture/response re that:

Cragman just hiked somewhere up Ritter Range two days ago. David Husted hiked farther west this past week but I haven't heard anything from him. Several people have said they were in Mammoth and how could they help...but at least from my end, I don't know where things stand.....

Some people are indicating that the search is too dangerous at this time of year with snow, etc. Others seem to say that it is possible.

Perhaps on the google search map it is current....it took me awhile to understand how to use this, but now that I can I am so impressed. However, I can't get clear on west side or east side of Banner, whether they were searched....

Banner sounds right to me.......
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