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JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 31, 2013 - 10:18pm PT
Beginning July 2013 the extension policy for campers who have already checked in to the Tuolumne Campground will be changed. Campers will only be allowed to extend their stay before their day of departure if an advance reservation is available. If one is not available, campers should return to the office on their day of departure to inquire about the availability of a first-come, first-serve site.

So can you extend w/o problems 1 day prior? I'm not that good at the interpretation of this.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jul 31, 2013 - 10:28pm PT
Sounds like they designate a few sites for first-come-first-serve campers and the rest for reservations. If all the reservation "slots" are taken you are essentially poaching a first-come-first-serve site by extending your reservation. Now you have to get in line with everyone else. (That's my interpretation)
John M

climber
Jul 31, 2013 - 10:30pm PT
So can you extend w/o problems

Thats not the way I read it. To me it reads that you can extend your stay if there are advanced reservations available, or if you get in line on the day you are leaving and hope for a first come first served spot. Before I believe you could extend your stay before your last day by being given a first come first served spot, but that has changed and now there has to be an advanced reservation spot available.

1. before your last day if there is an advanced reservation spot available, then you can extend your stay. If not.. then

2 you get in line on your last day like everyone else and hope for a first come first served.

But don't take my word for it. Governmentspeak gives me trouble too.
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jul 31, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
(That's my interpretation

That's how it worked when we there for a couple weeks just after the 1st of July.

Susan
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2013 - 10:43pm PT
Allegedly half the cg is first come first served, for up to 14 days, or am I mistaken. Confusing...
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Jul 31, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
I had several days reserved via on line about 2 weeks before we went. After those reserved days were burnt through I would go up and get in line and get several more days at a time. I think they have so many spots set aside for on line reservations and the rest set aside for first come ....

Susan
LuckyPink

climber
the last bivy
Jul 31, 2013 - 11:15pm PT
I've been in that office with a different problem..watched the ranger get on reservation.gov to get people campsites .. he said they use the same site.
the trouble with that site is that it does not pay to cancel your reservation.. so people don't. and they hold them for a full day after the no show. so the sites go empty but the park does not care because they get their cut through the vendor agreement anyway.
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2013 - 11:15pm PT
Thanks for the input SC and HD, it looks like the last cg in the park in which we used to be able to play it by ear is tightening up.
Edit LP, yeah like the Valley now....
QITNL

climber
Jul 31, 2013 - 11:52pm PT
"I had several days reserved via on line about 2 weeks before we went. After those reserved days were burnt through I would go up and get in line and get several more days at a time."

Me too, that's what I would do, but that doesn't work this year. As of now, when reserved days are burnt through, you get in line and get ONE more day at a time. You could stay up to two weeks or whatever but you'd have to do that every morning.
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2013 - 12:03am PT
Well shoulda checked into this sooner dammit. Bites.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Aug 1, 2013 - 12:30am PT
Fug it. Go to the East Side or Southern Sierra.

JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2013 - 12:46am PT
Okay.
WTF

climber
Aug 1, 2013 - 12:51am PT
Get a wilderness permit and walk into the woods. Camp in the woods with no one else but you and your people. Seems like good stuff to me.
QITNL

climber
Aug 1, 2013 - 03:33am PT
Just remembered a fellow taco-head told me he might have space up there this coming weekend. If that's when you were thinking, JOEY F., drop me a line.

I tipped my friends off to this wrinkle and we booked a bunch of sites when they came on line way back when. We used to book single days but you gotta book the whole deal now.

When your site comes up you say "hey anyone need a site?" or else you just cancel, $10 down the drain, no big deal. It is important to cancel, I hate when folks let sites go to waste.

You can usually crash with folks like Rock Rendezvous, they are cool.
http://rock-rendezvous.org/trips/
John M

climber
Aug 1, 2013 - 07:06pm PT
UPDATE

As of now, when reserved days are burnt through, you get in line and get ONE more day at a time.

Hey QITNL.. Is this from experience, or just something you heard?

I just spoke to the rangers in Wawona. They called the TM campground and they said that if there are no advanced reservations available, then you have to stand in line on the day you leave and get a site from the first come first served sites, which is half the campground. They said you can get more then one extra day at a time. Up to your 2 week limit. So you do not have to stand in line for every extra day.

I didn't find out what time you should get in line, but the ranger said no one was having trouble this summer since they instituted it.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 1, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
That seems reasonable.

I can tell you for sure that is not how Pines works anymore. Used to be you could occasionally snag a few days in a row there if you lined up.. but now it's absolutely one day at a time and you have to wait two times each day.. once in morning to sign up and once in afternoon to see what comes available...

fuq dat!
John M

climber
Aug 1, 2013 - 07:16pm PT
Its easier in at the TM campground because half the campground is first come first served, no reservations.
QITNL

climber
Aug 1, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
Hey John M - that's the policy as stated, confirmed to me at the booth by the ranger kids & by from some friends. I figured it might catch a few folks by surprise. I prepared for it, so speaking from personal experience, I can't confirm. Sometimes the rangers will cut you some slack, particularly when there is lower demand. So I'd go in expecting this policy, you might be able to work around it; if so, awesome.
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2013 - 08:50pm PT
So accordingly to JohnM's recon, it's the same policy but one must extend a day prior, not the day of, at which point one could get many days. I guess.
And thanks QUINTL for the offers!
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