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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 31, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
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Maestro Pennequin is trying to establish a timeline for Porter Nuts and the easiest way to nail that down is to ask Charlie directly about the history.
Anyone in touch with Charlie these days?
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 31, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
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On rainy days we'd go down to Briceburg and hang out in the Porter Engineering shop watching Charlie and Bev making sh!t.
Good times.
And no .... I don't have his contact info.
Ask Joe Healy he might?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 31, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
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Somewhere on Isla de Chiloe, Chile.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 31, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
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I heard he was inside the RURP, looking out...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
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Werner- Charlie made big I-beams, rounded off hexes and stacked stoppers.
Do you recall the order in which he made those nuts and/or an approximate dates?
Chouinard Stoppers came out in 1971 and Hexentrics in 1972. Was Charlie shaping and using nuts earlier than that in your recollection?
Correction- Stoppers in 72 and Hexes in 71. Gotta keep the Nutstory straight.
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 31, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
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Steve
I can't remember any of this stuff.
The one thing I remember him making a prototype cam nut that I used on Tissack to eliminate half the pin rack.
I believe Ken Yeager has the nut now in his museum collection.
Call Porter on Shortwave maybe 40 meter band to South America
(CQ 40 CQ 40 meter band) then have the Amateur radio operators start talking down toward Chile to try get his contact info.
We did that kind of stuff in Africa.
Roxjox has the equipment and know how?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 31, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
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But, does he still have the hat, is the real question.
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jul 31, 2013 - 03:18pm PT
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Steve,
You're aware of this thread, right?
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=231728&msg=1740545#msg1740545
I'm pretty certain that I purchased my Porter nuts in '72. I also just found this online at
http://www.earth.ox.ac.uk/~chrisd/mdds08/files/Prospectus.pdf
Madre de Dios Speleo 2008
In Search of Past Climate in Remote Island Caves of Southern Chil
We have been liaising with Charlie Porter, an American boat skipper
with years’ of experience in the waters around Southern Chile. He has visited Madre de
Dios, has found several caves himself, and has Chilean contacts who are able to show us
the location of more cave entrances in areas that are apparently unexplored by Chilean or
foreign cavers. The expedition will be based on Charlie Porter’s boat “Ocean Tramp”.
It's a neat little prospectus if you like caves.
It sounds like Chris Day might know how to get in touch. See
http://www.earth.ox.ac.uk/people/profiles/research/chrisd
for email.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2013 - 03:25pm PT
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Thanks Darwin- I do remember that thread. Do you still have those Porter nuts?
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Jul 31, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
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Steve
Contact "life is a bivouac" here on ST.
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jul 31, 2013 - 03:42pm PT
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Yes, I must have them still. I'll dig them up if you come over for the the magazines, which I'm now having a hard time committing to give away. ;-)
On a vaguely related topic: does anyone know the easiest way to get the tables of contents for early issues of Mountain magazine (the English one)? There is a story from around '69 that I remember reading by ???maybe by or about Drummond??? that I think I'll recognize if I see its name. A fall is taken on some Welsh cliff ... . OK, it's not at all related.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Jul 31, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
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Darwin-try Blakey on ST as he has a wealth of old Mountains and being a Brit and all can probably tell you off the top of his head. They seem a little more aware of their history than us Yanks. In reality they probably know more about American history than the average Yank.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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I'll get a hold of Stephane with it, but I'd be amazed if he responded.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Merci Joseph! I cross my fingers.
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PhilG
Trad climber
The Circuit, Tonasket WA
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Steve,
I'm not exactly sure when Charlie started making nuts, but I don't think it was before 1973. That's the year my wife and I lived with him down in Briceburg.
I've re-posted a few pictures in case you missed them the first time.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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PhilG, would it be possible to get a higher resolution of this fantastic portrait of Charlie from you?
In Rock & Ice #13 (March 1986), Dimitri Barton mentions, in his article on Quickies, that Mead Hargis and John Roskelley used “Porter Nuts” [I suspect Stackers (?)] on their very rapid ascent of the North America Wall, in 1971.
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