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squishy

Mountain climber
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 17, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
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RyanD

climber
Squamish
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
"should you come across a curious bear" LOL


She's gonna die fer sure if she meets a bear.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
Well, to her credit it appears she doesn't take herself too seriously.
But neither would a bear.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:25pm PT

mmmmm! Tastes like chiken~!!!!!
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:49pm PT
That's hilarious. Bears actually like beer, Sierra Pale Ale is a favorite. Offer the bear a brew, sit down and talk with the bear about Jellystone Park. Things will smooth out.
TrundleBum

Trad climber
Las Vegas
Jul 17, 2013 - 03:34pm PT

The humorous replies could be endless...
squishy

Mountain climber
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 5, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d94_1375678172
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Aug 5, 2013 - 07:41pm PT
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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 5, 2013 - 10:22pm PT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America
Third one down on the list. Rip! I mean RIP, idiot!

"The photographs in White's camera showed that he was taking photos of the bear in a span of eight minutes from 50 yards (46 m) to 100 yards (91 m). It was the first fatal bear attack recorded in Denali National Park."
The trusting lady has a squishy brain, I think.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 5, 2013 - 10:30pm PT


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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 5, 2013 - 10:58pm PT
Spread those legs, Bear!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 6, 2013 - 01:29am PT
That bear hoisting the dumpster is too much.
Couldn't he have parked his truck closer?

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 6, 2013 - 03:10am PT
John Gary Fencik (born June 11, 1954 in Chicago, Illinois) is a former professional American-football free safety and currently an executive with Adams Street Partners.[1] Fencik played twelve seasons with the Chicago Bears and is their all-time leader in interceptions[2] and total tackles. He was the team's defensive captain through the 1980s including 1985 Super Bowl championship season. He made two Pro Bowl appearances (1980, 1981). He was also awarded a gold record and a platinum video award for the 1985 Super Bowl Shuffle.

Lest we forget.
Gunkie

Trad climber
East Coast US
Aug 6, 2013 - 08:03am PT
Or just be proactive...

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dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Jun 17, 2014 - 11:40am PT
2 men followed by black bear while jogging in Northern Alberta.

And if you need a sound bite of real terrified gasping for breath
-capture sound from this vid. At the end when they get safely to the car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAnPdN6zTgU
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Jun 17, 2014 - 12:19pm PT

GangstaBear says "bitch betta have my honey."
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Jun 17, 2014 - 12:46pm PT
I think the bears would be alot safer if we could get them to wear the those orange reflecitve vests and maybe carry some bells and pepper spray.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Jun 17, 2014 - 01:11pm PT
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The video in dave729's post made clickable
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Jun 17, 2014 - 01:40pm PT
The guy in the above vid (holding the camera)
shows us the proper way to run away from a bear:
-just run faster than your jogging partner.
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Jun 17, 2014 - 01:49pm PT
A Suncor instrument tech was fatally mauled by a black bear at the
nearby Fort McMurry oil sands site just last month. Just walked out of the
site restroom when a bear pounced and killed her.

So these 2 jogger dudes were heartattack focused on the reality that they were about to be chewed to death this bear.




duck on a bike

climber
Jun 17, 2014 - 01:57pm PT
What about this guy or girl?

skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Jun 17, 2014 - 03:06pm PT
The guy in the above vid (holding the camera)
shows us the proper way to run away from a bear:
-just run faster than your jogging partner.

I know you're being funny, but running away from a bear kicks in the preditor/prey response. Just like a dog. When I first got my Pointer pup and it could out run me, to get it to come to me rather than run away, I got it's attention and ran like hell the other way. Natural instinct. That dog would run me down in nothing flat. And the black bears in Canada and apparently Alaska are serious business. Bear spray dudes. Or a weapon, but don't wound the thing and just piss it off. If you really want to know more about what to do, look up Stephen Herrero and Tim Rubbert related to bear attacks.


I was mapping geology in the mountains of Western Montana around 1982 or so. I was a juinor member of this effort, and one guy I worked with packed a 357 (same as me) coundn't shoot for sh#t, but kept telling me how he would shoot a bear if it came at us. So my strategy with him (we saw 4 griz the time I was there) was to out run him to a tree and let him piss the thing off by shooting at it. I figured once up the tree, I would do what I could from there. Another guy I worked with carried but wouldn't touch it. So at least I knew he would not shoot something and piss it off.

tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Jun 17, 2014 - 04:21pm PT
They say that most black bear attacks end in consumption so the playing dead thing does not work. Griz play dead, black bear fight like hell.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Jun 17, 2014 - 04:58pm PT
Yep.
http://www.bearsmart.com/becoming-bear-smart/play/bear-encounters

Of course, the guys in the video don't seem to have any "deterrent" (except a rock) or choose not to use it, so they have to keep backing up and hope the bear doesn't actually attack.
losbill2

climber
Jun 17, 2014 - 05:10pm PT
Misread post. Thought it "Beer Safety". Eagerly clicked on it thinking it was a thread long overdue!

Took me a moment or two to realize I was off route. Did enjoy the video. Thought the young lady did pretty well with a silly assignment.
ms55401

Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
Jun 17, 2014 - 05:24pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^ fukkin funny ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

GET TO DA HUMMMAA!!!
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Jun 17, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
Malemute is dead on right! Those two should have stood their ground with the black bear. It clearly was too curious and they were just giving it the time to possibly build up the confidence for an attack. But up there, I really don't know why they are trail running (and attracting predators) without carrying bear spray. It's kind of a no brainer these days.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Jun 17, 2014 - 05:57pm PT
Collect sticks & big rocks
I don't see many of those, or many chances to do that.
The bear is in close pursuit.
They would have to be bold enough to stop without weapons,
and hope the bear stops, too, and gives them time to bend over and
pick stuff up.

It seems like they were in a gray area, fairly close to their car
and figured the bear was not acting that aggressive.
Once the bear started climbing the small trees, they felt even better
about this judgement.

"Siri, scare away the bear!"
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Jun 17, 2014 - 07:50pm PT
No doubt. The bear could take him down with one lunge / swipe of the paw.

The question in this vid is whether the bear is attacking, or is "just curious". He seems to never make a move aggressive enough to be sure it is an attack. It could be that these 2 guys' size and movements made the bear not feel confident enough to attack. Of course we never know for sure what the bear might have done if they did things slightly differently. All we know is that they got away without a full attack this time.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Jun 18, 2014 - 05:58am PT
Again, I think Malemute is right on target. Looks like a young bear and could be a somewhat timid young male testing limits. You know how young males are... It didn't bluff charge or make any stressed out sounds like huffing. But that bear is learning the wrong message about humans. Pure and simple. It knew it was invading the two runners personal space.
rick d

climber
ol pueblo, az
Jun 18, 2014 - 06:09am PT
Having lived in grizzly country and been around a few black bears, all I can saw is screw the little bears. Hiking in active griz season is terrifying where the bears know little of humans (mts around yellowstone). Attacks at the Cody hospital were rare but ugly and the hunter/guide attacks were farking serious. Be careful out there and back away from encounters with the big guys unless you want to end up eaten like grizzly man.
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Jun 18, 2014 - 06:27am PT
what about the couple times the black bear sort of backed up or started up a tree, would that have been the time to 'attack' the bear, or at least fake charge at it - not that the bear understood when the guys were saying 'good boy' or whatever - but body language that continues to tell the bear 'I'm bigger and not on your curious list'? maybe even throw the rock then?


"Siri, scare away the bear!"
LOL!!

Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jun 18, 2014 - 07:06am PT
Firstly, LOL. What are the guys doing with a video camera if they are out jogging?

And perhaps Yogi and Boo Boo may understand English, but "Stop Shoo, Go Away, Back"?

Oh I forgot, Canadian bears do graduate from high school, some even go on to get English degrees. Guess that bear must have flunked out.


EDIT

Actually, I think that is a fake video. I think the bear was a Newfoundland dog dressed up as a bear and these guys wanted to go viral on You Tube. It's a set up, but funny as hell.

In Tuoumne, Alpine and Sierra counties, as part of my natural resources and zoology studies at Columbia College (1976), I field studied the interaction of coyotes and bears. In the almost four months (actually a bit less) I did not see a lot of action between the two species.

Of course, any wild animal can be dangerous, just visit Detroit, Rio de Janiero, or even the Costa de Sol when drunk English (and Irish) hoildaymakers are there.


And how come it was "easy" to scare of black bears (juveniles and adolescents, I would never mess with cubs, momma bear is around, and the old sows can be cranky) in the Valley.

Back in April 1972, my high school climbing partner, Steve, and I were were camped in Lower Pines, Camp 4 was full. We both had dropped mescaline that evening after climbing), ( do not do drugs any longer, last trip was 1976, with Dave Y in the Valley).

Now it was fairly late at night and I was coming down, I was restless, no tent, just bags on the ground. I turned around in my bag and about a foot from me was this huge bear paw, attached to a bear about four feet on all fours, sniffing at the picnic table.

I just slowly pulled my bag over me. No, I was not hallucinating, as it moved onto the next campsite, where two climbers from SoCal were camped. They had left some food out, then the sound of pots and pans banging, Steve woke up, and we started banging pots too. Scared that bruin off, but I wonder, since I haven't camped in the Valley for many years, are the bears, of course "urbanized", so to speak, are they getting more aggressive, smarter, less afraid?
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jun 18, 2014 - 09:34am PT
the most effective form of Bear safety is for the bears to avoid the the June Lake vicinity.
Roxy

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Jun 18, 2014 - 02:44pm PT


"Just Chillin’ in Camp With a Massive Brown Bear"

cf. http://www.adventure-journal.com/2014/06/just-chillin-in-camp-with-a-massive-brown-bear/


dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Aug 5, 2014 - 02:16pm PT
In a world gone nuts here is a good news story
that, for a moment, may put a smile on your face :P


Justin Bieber saves man from bear attack

http://nypost.com/2014/08/05/justin-bieber-saves-man-from-bear-attack/

Ursus arctos
John M

climber
Aug 5, 2014 - 02:35pm PT
^^^^^ hahahaha.. okay.. I was not expecting that.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 5, 2014 - 03:37pm PT
coastal_climber

Trad climber
BC
Aug 5, 2014 - 04:40pm PT
Guns.
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Aug 5, 2014 - 08:13pm PT
Bears which have lost all fear of humans are far scarier than a grizzly bear hauling ass away at top speed in Alaska.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 5, 2014 - 09:37pm PT
They shouldn't issue these shaggy beasts licenses in the first place.

At least in California. The rest of you got your own programs to look at.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 13, 2014 - 09:39am PT
They're taking up golf!

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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 13, 2014 - 09:44am PT
I kept waiting for Mom to come charging outta the woods to whoop azz on those retards.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Sep 13, 2014 - 09:50am PT
Thank you, paleolithic hunter ancestors!

perswig

climber
Sep 13, 2014 - 12:05pm PT
Thank you, paleolithic hunter ancestors!

Dudes musta had some big-ass dogs, right?
Dale
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Sep 13, 2014 - 04:04pm PT
Retards indeed. We have lots of black bears here in whistler. I had a yearling hanging around the neighborhood a couple years back. Everytime he came around i would go outside and start yelling really aggressively at him. He ran away quite quickly.

I've used this tactic every time i've come in contact with a black bear. Stand my ground and get real agressive. Never had a bear think twice about messing with me. The fact that i'm 6'7 doesn't hurt i'm sure, but they don't respond well to agression and are looking for submissive prey.

Don't be it. Griz scare me. Those guys will mess with you if you try black bear tactics....
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Oct 18, 2014 - 05:35pm PT
Unfortunately a 22yr old hiker was chased down and killed by a bear
just 30 miles east of NewYork city last month. A group of 5
hikers scattered and fled when the bear approached them.
The slowest one got chomped. Later police found it guarding the
deceased man's body.

Rutgers University Senior Killed By Black Bear In New Jersey Preserve
September 22, 2014
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/09/22/bear-suspected-of-killing-22-year-old-hiker-in-new-jersey/


http://www.panoramio.com/photo/79796102
Apshawa Preserve New Jersey
dense forest 30 miles due west of NYC.

and some recent CA bear action
https://news.yahoo.com/black-bear-eats-body-californian-man-reports-083616793.html

Not to leave out Canada! A grizzly was chewing on a hunter.\
His partner shot the bear several times.
One or more bullets went into the guy being
mauled after passing thru and killing the bear.
He is expected to live.
Recovering in the Calgary hospital.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/fernie-grizzly-bear-attack-sends-man-to-calgary-hospital-1.2796653


And Alaska. Multiple attacks.
Some perhaps provoked by the owners dogs.

http://www.adn.com/article/20140724/eagle-river-man-shoots-kills-brown-bear-mauled-him
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/woman-survives-bear-attack_n_5677141.html


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