New fire south of Idyllwild


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Trad climber
Jul 16, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
"Growth Potential: Extreme"

Scary sh#t, hopefully too much of the PCT doesn't get burned. That's already a pretty rough little stretch.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jul 16, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
Credit: mouse from merced

Vamos a superar.

Trad climber
Jul 16, 2013 - 09:41pm PT
Growth Potential

Yeah. If they can't control it fast this has the potential to get really ugly.

I'm still wondering about the smoke I saw coming from the canyon on the north side of the peak east of snow creek. Inversion? I did not see any flames but it sure looked like a hot spot.

Jul 17, 2013 - 01:31am PT
Good old 741!

I don't know what assets Calfire has working but when I saw these Skycranes from Erickson in WA show up in Santa Barbara I jumped up and down and cheered. Without them our house was a goner. They load 10 tons of water in minutes and have an unloaded speed near 100mph. Control wise they are like a rock. With IR hardly anything can stop them. Two 5000Hp turbos for power. Low rotor speed.

Here in JT, at least, the wind was down this afternoon and perhaps as a result of this less than two more square miles were added to the burn this afternoon. Smoke has been very heavy though. Even see some ashes here. Not many however.


If you personally have not been pulled out of hell by a skycrane, you won't understand the following video. If you have, go for it!

Wednesday noon update:
22 square miles
light winds
16 helicopters
one DC 10
one Sky Crane with IR - can drop water at night

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 17, 2013 - 01:37am PT
we used to call those sky cranes "porta storms" lol! Hopefully the getter contained down there!

Trad climber
Jul 17, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
Just heard that Tahquitz is closed.

Trad climber
Quartz Hill, CA
Jul 17, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
Looks ominous:

Trad climber
Southern California
Jul 17, 2013 - 04:59pm PT
It has blown up over the morning. I live about 25 miles away and couldn't see much smoke yesterday, but now I can see a huge plum building up. If it hits the high country near Carumba it will get out of control.

Edit: Too late, it already has...

Edit again: My friend took the below picture. I'm hoping it stays east of town.
Johnny K.

Jul 17, 2013 - 05:01pm PT

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 17, 2013 - 05:03pm PT
Good luck to the property owners and the fire fighters. May they always be in the black.

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Jul 17, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
Dang that's an impressive pic. And not in a good way.
Here's to hoping that it doesn't come over the mountain.

Trad climber
Idyllwild, California
Jul 17, 2013 - 05:09pm PT
Unfortunately, the fire flanked to the north this morning and hit the wilderness area North of Tahquitz Rock. It looks bad from Idyllwild, but at present it is not threatening the town. Looks really bad from our deck looking at South Ridge of Tahquitz Peak and Tahquitz Rock. The smoke and ash are pretty bad in town right now. Hoping it will not shift into the town...

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Jul 17, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
A friend showed me a picture from the Mac Donald's camp (evacuating / ed), including horses). Really scary and it gave me shivers. Reminded me of the 49er fire in 88.

Good thoughts going that way.

Ice climber
Middle-of-Nowhere, Arizona
Jul 17, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
Unfortunately, the fire flanked to the north this morning and hit the wilderness area North of Tahquitz Rock.

that's not good. looks like a monsoonal flow(out of the southeast) starting friday.

Trad climber
Jul 17, 2013 - 07:18pm PT
"Just got the lowdown on this one from my Fire Chief a few minutes ago(we have mutual aid agreements with neighboring FDs and CalFire), we have one crew and engine on loan at this fire. 10% contained this morning when the fresh crew rolled, and moving toward PalmSpr. Chief said "lotsa dry fuel, unfavorable winds, and moving fast, $4million in costs as of this morning, excluding any property damage (just the costs of fighting it)"."

Who are you working for? I'm at MBA.

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Jul 17, 2013 - 08:25pm PT
We've had a lot of smoke and ash up here in the park. Right now it's getting nasty now that the wind has shifted.

Best wishes to those fighting the fire and to those in the path of it.

Social climber
Jul 17, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
Mountain Fire Update - Evacuation Notice is in effect for Fern Valley, Idyllwild, and adjacent communities east of Highway 243.
the albatross

Gym climber
Jul 17, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
Quite the column this evening via webcam:
Bad Climber

Jul 17, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
I've been studying pine beetle kills. Turns out they don't increase fire severity. A dead tree is harder to ignite than a dry live one with lots of volatile oils. A researcher from Colorado did an extensive study about fires and beetle kills and found, although they look bad, the effect on fires is quite counter-intuitive. This doesn't help the folks in Idylwild, however. Hoping for the best. That's a great area. Only climbed there once.

There are just too many morons out there starting fires.


Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
Jul 17, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
Notice just issued for evacuation of the town of Idyllwild and Fern Valley areas east of Highway 243:
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