Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jul 15, 2013 - 11:16pm PT
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well now that depends rSin - are you a witch or a newt?
What you should really be asking is why are there helmeted black men running at me from the ESPN sidebar on the right of the forum page?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 15, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
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Ricky D...Those are young Domincan hotties......Clean your screen...!
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jul 15, 2013 - 11:24pm PT
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I'm pretty sure they are black guys wearing helmets - I think I might need a gun.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 15, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
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Quick...I'll go get my sister and a flashlight....
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Nohea
Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
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Jul 16, 2013 - 04:40am PT
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Ok so lets see who the Economically challenged people are.
Do you have 8 months of expenses in liquid holdings?
Do you have any credit card or consumer debt?
Do you have a will and your assets legally distributed by your choice?
Do you have retirement savings that are significant for your age?
Me? 1. Yes 2. Zero 3. Yes 4. Yes
CNBC is a great resource, Econ rocks! They are tv so so their goal is viewers but like the wsj they get some interesting guests.
I've considered buying Cramer's Rec's but when it's your money, you tend to do more research.
I enjoy a few of their programs.
Free markets are what the world needs.
Edit: let me repeat for possible penetration. I do not buy anything b/cuz cramer says so. He is irritatingly entertaining. CNBC is entertainment but you can learn a fair amount from them.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 16, 2013 - 09:52am PT
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I've considered buying Cramer's Rec's but when it's your money, you tend to do more research.
So much for YOUR credibility!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 16, 2013 - 11:08am PT
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Bluering Carbonara is on the menu!
enjoy!
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 16, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
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Blurring you are a delusional fascist prick. I'm not shitting on capitalism. I'm shitting on the notion that unrestrained growthand unfettered resource consumption is sustainable. That's a fookin fact. Duh.
Maybe you should put down the bottle.
Edit: go ahead and pickle your last few brain cells. Maybe then you'll be too stupefied to vote.
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MikeL
climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
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Jul 16, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
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Sure. No doubt, . . . capitalism is due for a major tune-up, maybe even an overhaul. Ditto for economics. Ditto for democracy. (Is there really any doubt?)
It seems to me that people prefer polar extremes, . . . or at least they take extremes to heart as a child to a mother's breast.
Capitalism vs. socialism. Leadership vs. followership. Profit-maximization vs. social responsibility. Free will vs. determinism. Centralization versus decentralization. Conservatism vs. liberalism. Science vs. religion. As Jan has noted elsewhere, there's no middle ground available, there's no sense of compromise, and there's no "little bit of this and a little bit of that." We feel We Must be consistent in our views--otherwise we'd expose ourselves as ignorant, stupid, or uneducated. We must hold monolithic views.
Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
How can any one theory or single perspective allow us to see truth, the good, or the beautiful?
Life--and the things that one constructs in it--are all projects. One builds, experiments, amends, substitutes, tears down, and rebuilds, and again, and again.
There's nothing really wrong with a little bit of this and a little bit of that, is there?
It takes a nuanced mind to navigate and work with the gaps between what we think and what we experience.
Nuanced minds enjoy humor, absurdity, and ambiguity.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jul 16, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
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Nuanced minds enjoy humor, absurdity, and ambiguity.
Hear, hear! Now a few random thoughts on what I've read on this thread:
1. I'm curious about how people decide where the U.S. stands on "happiness." I frankly don't even find happiness a worthwhile measure, compared with, say, contentment.
2. I don't think there's ever been a serious debate about whether our resources limit population. The debate over the Malthusian hypothesis asks whether resources regulate population, i.e. whether our population fluctuates in correlation with fluctuations in resources available.
3. Capitalism depends neither on a constantly-rising population nor on a constantly-rising use of resources. Capitalism depends on scarcity, since it is a method of allocating scarce resources.
4. Heavily socialized economies, in contrast, suffer when their populations of earners do not grow, because those earners must pay for increasing numbers of non-earners.
5. There are an awful lot of trolls on ST.
;>)
John
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jul 16, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
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"But why is it that every President somewhere in his speach touts;
"WE ARE THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH!"
why?
because if a candidate or President did NOT say that, the opposing political party would jump all over him accusing him of being unpatriotic
ya gotta wrap yourself in the flag to get elected, and don't forget the flag lapel pin
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 16, 2013 - 03:23pm PT
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4. Heavily capitalized economies, in contrast, suffer when their populations of earners do not grow, because those earners must pay for the non-earners.
Fixed that for you, John!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 16, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
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John E, you silly, only animals are smart enough to let resources govern
fecundity - how else to explain population increases of homeric proportions in
places like Somalia, Niger, or Mali?
As for the problem of increasingly top-heavy demographics it isn't a problem
when the population is literate, hard-working, and pays their taxes. Case
in point - Japan. Not too many elderly homeless in Japan. Not too many
elderly in the soup lines in Norway, Germany, or Switzerland, despite their
dependence on capitalism. Wait, I don't think any of those countries even
have soup lines.
ps
In order to help the homeless I propose that the food being refused in
Pelican Bay be distributed to the homeless in SFO.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jul 16, 2013 - 07:17pm PT
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Capitalism is better than all the the other alternatives.[/fact]
Even though it stumbles and contracts every generation on hopes and fears, it usually learns from its mistakes and through regulation and reform comes back stronger.
Regarding limited resources capitalism has great capacity to create renewable resources through recycling, copper, iron, paper; even turning our landfills into gases that can fuel factories and cars.
Capitalism is freedom and will continue to truck along.
Just look through kickstarter.com and imagine the possibities.
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rrider
climber
Mckinleyville, Ca
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Jul 16, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
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Bigger, Faster, More Money, and More Power. Oh And A Little Mess And Collateral Damage Which We Will Worry About Later. That is what seems to drive the “highly evolved” successful humanoids on this rock. Here are a few of them in action:
http://youtu.be/3J4HHNX8WxQ
so proud
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 16, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
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Those talking dick heads are lite on fact and heavy on opinion while barking up the wrong tree...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jul 22, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
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Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
How can any one theory or single perspective allow us to see truth, the good, or the beautiful?
Ah, the quintessential Libertarian. Always bitching about both sides and directing people to an unattainable "middle-ground", without offering paths to get there.
This is what I hate about f*#king Libertarians! Always whining, no path to solution.
Rand Paul is the only wise Libertarian who understands that to get a Libertarian Prez, you need to run as a Repub, who is reasonable. And STFU about social issues, they don't matter!
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