Dingus Milktoast
Gym climber
Got my DOUBLEWIDE!
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How about a Rotten Log Open Source Project to honor our friend Juan de Fuca? Should be cheaper and less involved than designing and producing a hammer!
The steps seem simple enough:
1. Climb RA, go up to rim, find suitable dead log in vicinity
2. Move that log to the rim above the RA
3. Rap and Ride the Log
4. Put the log into position.
5. Climb the log.
6. Rap the route.
A little chilly up there just now. Twill have to wait for spring.
DMT
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Walleye
climber
The Hot Kiss on the end of a Wet Fist
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There never was a question of whether Dave jettisoned the thing, he did.. And, the Monkey Chunks are committed to the eternity and are long gone!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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leave it to wade icey to rise to his defense
if you knew Dave you would know he needs no defense.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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What, No Monkey Chunks for the holidays...not even in Skymall?!? Damn...
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Mimi
climber
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I was also really upset when we heard about Dave kicking it off. I had done it in '83 and it was fine. LOL. When we asked him that day in the C4 lot why he did it, he said it was dangerous and it was time for it to go. 'Someone could get killed on that thing.' He picked some of the pieces up that fell the distance and supposedly stashed them in a storage locker. He wouldn't give any of it away. Too bad it's all gone.
It would great if it could be replaced. That was an awesome mandatory feature on that fun route.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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With modern hauling techniques being as advanced and heavy duty as they are, we could haul a new one up in there.
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Mimi
climber
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The NPS would never allow it. Or WUD they?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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PTPP seems to have his hauling techniques dialed - maybe he could help. A form of penance, too. Although it might be easier to lower a suitable log from above. Either way, there are obstacles which would have to be circumvented, both physical and bureaucratic.
Wood the NPS let it happen? We could make a case for restoring and protecting natural features, that the log is entirely natural and belongs there, do an EIS for the actual project, etc. (It is nominally in a wilderness, even if in close proximity to the Ahwahnee.) And the NPS says it doesn't manage climbing anchors...
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2010 - 12:03pm PT
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For example: liability?
Ken
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Walleye
climber
The Hot Kiss on the end of a Wet Fist
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This thread seems to be teetering on the brink of the absurd.. I think I will go back and ram a small tree into the crack on Lazy Bum just so somebody else can have the experience of using it to break their fall when they whip off on the free-solo..
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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So you're the guy that killed the tree on Lazy Bum...proud stuff Walter
...or did ewe?
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Walleye
climber
The Hot Kiss on the end of a Wet Fist
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No, Dice.. It was Jim Campbell.
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Mimi
climber
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Better to be absurd here than on the poli threads, Walter. hahaha
Can we put the evil tree back on Leaning Tower too.
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Walleye
climber
The Hot Kiss on the end of a Wet Fist
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Only if you go back with Bobbi Fosburg to replace the evil tree, Mimi.. And that, I wanna see..
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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"consider that" (upthread) was the great lesson of the rotten log, one every party should have learned. had the log gone with a climber on it, properly protected to something other than the log, i doubt it would have been fatal.
dave s. certainly left his mark in the valley. i'd hate to think he'd be remembered mainly for this, but he might. he seems to have been a noob guide at the time. they can get so custodial.
the evil tree gone as well. pussification. oh, the humanity ...
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Find the Rotten Log, put it at the start of the Leaning Tower; find the Evil Tree and put it up on Royal Arches--- cause a rip in the Space-Time Fabric.
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Mimi
climber
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hahaha, Peter. If only it was that easy.
The poor evil tree was broken to pieces in place by clumsy climbers who couldn't move around it. It was a sharp spike of a stump by the time we got to it.
Yes, that is an interesting take on Dave's attitude at the time. I'd have to say I agree from my conversation with him that day. It will not likely be what he's remembered for, that's for sure. It merely adds to his notoriety. It was going to get knocked down eventually. I also don't believe it would've killed anyone while on it. We protected it by using a long sling around the tree at its start. It would've been a clean fall onto the slab. Maybe not so clean...
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2010 - 03:24pm PT
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You may not have died when it finally went but the potential was certainly there. It probably would have spun with you holding on to it. Not only would the slab have hurt but the log could easily have landed on top of you. Ugly!
Ken
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rich sims
Trad climber
co
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77 I told my partner Peter take the runner off the log or you are off belay.
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toadgas
Trad climber
los angeles
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bump for more log humping action
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