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Salamanizer
Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 25, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
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There is millions of points out there from a thousand years or more ago on up to recent ..
Actually, there are billions of points out there stretching back to about 20,000 years ago. It was long believed that people started migrating into the Americas no more than 13,000 years ago. Recent studies have indisputably pushed this date back to the 20,000 year mark with some evidence that the migrations may have even started as long ago as 30,000 years ago. Though most points you'll find are no more than 13,000 years old, as this was the start of mass migration. The Clovis points died out from 8 to 10,000 years ago along with the extinction of large mammals in the Americas. From that time until about 120 years ago the more common "bird points" were the norm. So you got at least 8,000 years of literal Indian refuse littering the ground making arrowheads neither rare or particularly valuable. Their real value comes from Anthropologists studying peoples collections and the areas they were found to help piece together the history of all of us. So pick em up and show them off. You might just find something rare or enlightening to someone trying to find another piece of the puzzle. If you toss them back, that's cool too. Just don't stick them in your sock drawer.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Jun 26, 2013 - 12:03am PT
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I like Dingus's story. A box of points in the closet is lost to the world.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jun 26, 2013 - 12:24am PT
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Great experience to share DMT.
Thanks
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covelocos
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Jun 26, 2013 - 11:13am PT
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My brother in Az. will pick up a few 'fake' points from a tourist shop and put 'em in his pocket. When he pulls up into a friend's driveway, he drops one on the ground near his truck. When his friend comes out to see him, he 'finds' it and starts looking for more. ALWAYS gets a rise!
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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i walked away,
and sunk my system in cold drink.
5 minutes i remain emerged in spring water.
core temp teased 97.
i crawl out of the granite tub,
and reach down for my shoes.
this i find just adjacent,
a blessing of past spirits upon me.
so i walk up the hill to my white man castle,
and notice that the garbage is overflowing it's canister.
so i flip the lid and jump in,
stomp around a bit, the new blessing still in my hand,
my sandaled foot punches thru the overheated plastic garbage bag,
and my toes entertain hot and rancid todays.
that's ok because my hand is entertaining bold and simple yesterdays.
i jump out and i've tomato squeezed into my birkenstocks,
i look down and seriously
there is a wadded ten dollar bill caught in a spider's web,
that spans the refuse and the recycling can.
my foot is pasted with waste,
in my hand is a point that hopes towards sustenance.
im a tear in reality's fabric,
confusion passes thru me,
as does genius,
though according to fluid mechanics,
both speed up as they skim across my knows.
and the negative pressure that ensues of their's velocity
sucks from within me,
my stubborn ignorance.
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stunewberry
Trad climber
Spokane, WA
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I found a point at 11,500 in Armstrong Canyon. Don't ask what we were doing there. Any points up that high would have been from expeditions to hunt big horn sheep
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2013 - 01:23am PT
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Yeah, well there are alot of things that are illegal. Like smoking pot or speeding. Many of these laws are in place to protect idiots from themselves. Like someone who darts through traffic in rush hour, or raids and removes artifacts from a significant archaeological site. Removing a lone arrowhead from the dirt is no more damaging to society than driving 75 mph down a deserted highway at midnight.
Besides, all mine were found on private property!!!
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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I used to go relicin' while I was in college in Edwardsville, Illinois. Down by the soccer practice fields I found many colorful flakes and occasional arrowheads / points. Many of them were not perfect, but I was addicted and even had permission from the farmer.
Here's the best little point. A real arrowhead.
The very first one I found was in a field near Kampsville, Illinois. My friend tipped me off to it as he was trying to teach me how to develop the eye. He said he spied a notch and I should look closely. I finally saw it and pulled this baby out of the ground.
I admire HighTraverse for putting the one he found back. I'm no longer hunting the relics but do admire them and enjoy seeing the pictures and stories each of you has shared.
I put my very favorite ones in a dream catcher.
This last one was a gift from my friend who taught me how to see notches and pottery shards. He found it in Stark County, Illinois.
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sangoma
Trad climber
south africa
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Down this side we don't find arrow heads but I find a lot of hand axes
These are thousands of years old , from the early stone age
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Salamanizer
Trad climber
The land of Fruits & Nuts!
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 8, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
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Nice Sangoma, is that all from South Africa?
I'd imagine those hand axes are probably in the tens of thousands of years old. Iron Age stuff too... you're not going to find any of that around here in California.
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209er
Social climber
Oakdale
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So there we were, K and I, heading south over Cirque pass in 2010 on our way to Split Mountain after bailing out on Mt. Sill because we saw a cloud or two in the sky. There upon a ledge near the pass itself was this fine relic of days ago. When we showed the photo to an expert later on we were told it some sort of a bifacial spear point from obsidian from the Mammoth Lakes area. We left this exactly where we found it. Maybe that will happen the next time, too.
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sangoma
Trad climber
south africa
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Salamanizer, all from southern Africa ,except one blade from the UK that looks the same as the blades I find here
Interesting that stone tools the world over follow the same design, although one finds a variation of the hand axe ,that I call the "chisel nose" only in this area ???
The only arrow heads that are found here are Bushman or iron age bantu on the western side of SA and up north as there was no culture of bow and arrow in most of SA
Chris
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Dickbob
climber
Westminster Colorado
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Nov 16, 2013 - 04:59pm PT
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My wife just found this one laying in the middle of the trail, south side of Standley Lake.
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