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Social climber
Pasadena CA
Jul 15, 2013 - 10:54am PT
After watching the Mt. Ventoux stage a few times, I still get the gut reaction (after years of denials that they're using) that Froome's performance is a mirror image of past drug cheats. I hope that he is on the up and up, but history tells me he's cheating.

Not from his personal history, but the simple fact he is so over-the-top better then all the other elite climbers/time trialer he's been racing against.
John Mac

Trad climber
Littleton, CO
Jul 15, 2013 - 11:01am PT
The acceleration that Froome was showing was pretty damn impressive. I'd like to see his power ratings on that climb.

Social climber
Los Angeles currently St. Antonin, France
Jul 15, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
This is a pretty interesting article.
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Jul 15, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Yes Bruce, that article was INTERESTING!

Things that make you go hmmmm.

Social climber
Jul 15, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
Sometime I think its foolish racers be performance medicine free,
when majority of humanity is popping prescription pills. That old purity
idea is just old and out of date and should be tossed.
I'd say anything goes if I was in charge. Big Pharma has billions ready for sponsorships. Getting a piece of that cash would be nice.
Injections during the race? Just before the final sprint. Sure. After all its just entertainment. Like silicone boobs.
And putting on a good show is really the whole point.


Wilderness, Home
Jul 16, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
Pretty near disaster on descent today!

Porte is effin killin it. Froome coulda been off on his main man's bike likety split.
John Mac

Trad climber
Littleton, CO
Jul 16, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
Interesting article on Sky's training methods today:


I bet Porte will be their GC rider next year.
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Jul 16, 2013 - 11:08pm PT
Froome was complaining about Alberto's attacks on the descent. What a pussy! Does he expect everyone to sit up and let him win?

Shaddup you whiner!

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Jul 16, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
Either Froome is on the juice, or he's the greatest natural talent since Merckx (who juiced a little himself). And Froome appeared out of nowhere. Unlike say Lemond, there was no indication in Froome's early career that he'd be like this.

I'd like to believe. But it's really suspicious.

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 16, 2013 - 11:49pm PT
Froome is getting cocky. Makes you wonder. He was signaling Contador to do some work at the end. Really?

New Zealand
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:02am PT
"Not normal". Who knows...

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Jul 17, 2013 - 12:13am PT
he is using bio-pace chain rings rotated 72 degrees, totally illegal


Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 17, 2013 - 10:12am PT
One thing I would do to improve the TV coverage would be to totally disable the ZOOM lenses on all the motorcycle cameras.

What's gained by an extreme close shot looking into the vents on the back of a racer's helmet? Or by an extreme close shot into someone's ear canal?

Shitcan the zoom already. Pull back, so we can see the rider's position on the bike, the bike itself, the gears being used, the other racers, the fans lining the course, and the scenery. That's all part of the race too, but we're missing out on it to see yet another tight shot into someone's ear canal.
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Jul 17, 2013 - 10:07pm PT
OH, I was so bummed for Peraud.

He crashes in practice and breaks his shoulder (I did that this year).

Then he goes for it anyway, big time, not holding anything back, in the tt
and crashes again, on the same shoulder around 1 km. from the finish.

I have a feeling he won't start for the double Alpe d'Houez stage.

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jul 17, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
So who scored the winning goal?

Is it over yet?
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Jul 17, 2013 - 11:03pm PT
Hey climbski2, why do you post on this thread? Do you just rotate through and put in your worthless $0.02 on all threads?

Kennewick wa
Jul 17, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
Hate to say it but the last time we saw a performance like Froome's so far in this tour, it was the guy pushing yellow bracelets.
The Larry

Moab, UT
Jul 18, 2013 - 12:47am PT
I'll tell you who's not doping. Cadel Evens. WTF. He must be sick or something.
As for all the armchair doping experts. Give it a rest and enjoy the show. Tomorrow should be awesome!

Trad climber
Boulder, CO
Jul 18, 2013 - 01:29am PT
I think tomorrow would be truly awesome if it was a race amongst equals. Whether Froome is clean or not, his dominance this year is akin to Mike Tyson boxing against Jerry Seinfeld. He's got 4 minutes. Four!! That makes for a boring ass race. Especially when everybody knows that if he lays the hammer down tomorrow like he did on the other key stages that he could realistically stretch that 4 minute gap to 20 minutes... and that's no joke, he's that head and shoulders above everyone else. The rest of them might scrap for podium spots, but c'mon.

As to whether Froome is clean or not, I definitely have my suspicions. But, maybe that pre-2010 parasite really did affect his abilities that much. Maybe he is a late blooming, better-than-Merckx natural talent.

Still, I'm curious to see how Sky plays it tomorrow. I wrote about this on another site, but Thursday's stage should be interesting. With so many press agencies around the world publishing articles calling Froome's performance into question - e.g., making note that if he won these stages by a handful of seconds nobody would really think much of it - I wonder if Sky will take this into account in how they let Froome race. Maybe hold Froome back, have him ride defensive and/or win by just a small margin (sandbag it until the final switchback up the Alpe, give RP a win, etc). Or, if they are fully confident in his 'pane e acqua' performance, let him fly and push out the same wattage and VAM that he did on AX3 or the upper slopes of Ventoux. Basically saying "F you!" to all the doubters. We shall see.

Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
Jul 18, 2013 - 02:36am PT
About the only positive that Froome has in my book is that considering the current microscope that racing is under, if you are doping the absolute stupidest thing you could do right now is call that much attention to yourself. I don't think he's that much of an idiot, but I have zero trust and very little respect for bike racing right now.
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