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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 20, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
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Did you like the daily updates? Did you like the photos he took of you up on the Big Stone? Did you get his disc of photos of your climb?
Did you donate?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 20, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
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No....I have been remiss, but I certainly will!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 20, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
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Voyeur??
Spectator, photographer, volunteer, documentarian and journalist. Plus he played the game well himself.
According to Randisi I guess anyone who likes going to sporting events is a voyeur.
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E.L. "One"
Big Wall climber
Lancaster, California
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Jun 20, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
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Just Donated! Thanks for all you do Tom. See ya in the Fall.
Bob "Cracko" Porter
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Jun 20, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
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yep, worthy cause.
camera equipment ain't cheap folks
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Offset
climber
seattle
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Jun 20, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
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not to mention the dangerous work environment
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FrankZappa
Trad climber
Hankster's crew
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Jun 20, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
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^^No.
Some sort of donation is in order if he's given you photos. So I'm due....
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Jun 20, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
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Well, to turn up the heat for a good cause, I will reveal that I have contributed. It has been a couple of years, though, maybe I'll have to do it again.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 20, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
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My world would be a poorer place without his reports and pictures for over 15 years. He gives me something to look forward to on every report. That is waaaay better than a newspaper. The climbing world is really lucky to have him there doing what he does.
As far as taking pics of your wall climb?? Do you really NOT want those pics when you get down..lol get a grip ..most folks are super stoked when they see the pictures of their climb. Dude doesn't even charge. Although it would be rude not to offer something.
Can you imagine what a regular pro photograher would charge you to take the same pics for you?
Plus he is just a damn decent guy to hang out with.
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Jun 20, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
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Actually Randisi, I wonder too. I know I'm really grateful that when I did el cap routes in the 80s that none of that went on. I'm also grateful that we didn't have cell phones. I liked the solitude of just being up there with the Colonel and relying on each other without a huge crowd at the bridge watching us pick our noses.
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Offset
climber
seattle
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Jun 20, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
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it's pretty easy to not go to the bridge if you don't want to.. and it's pretty easy to ask tom to not take your picture or report on you...
as for me.. those are two great parts of visits to the valley.
tom - you're greatly appreciated.. on the bridge, here at work... and in the homes of loved ones watching theirs fulfill some dreams..
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 20, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
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Tom will gladly not photograph or report on you if you ask him.
I don't get the solitude thing with twenty or thirty thousand people driving by, some stopping and watching with binoculars on their own, every day. What about the Green Dragon that has been stopping and pointing out climbers since the early 70s?
Cell phones? Isn't that a personal choice? Don't carry one if you don't want to!
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FrankZappa
Trad climber
Hankster's crew
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Jun 20, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
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Actually Randisi, I wonder too. I know I'm really grateful that when I did el cap routes in the 80s that none of that went on. I'm also grateful that we didn't have cell phones. I liked the solitude of just being up there with the Colonel and relying on each other without a huge crowd at the bridge watching us pick our noses.
Agreed, however even back then it was common to see people with telescopes and cameras watching closely at times; maybe not augured in at the bridge for the summer, but it's not like this is a new thing aside from the Internet reports an ability to take more photos.
I've even seen the TOOL down in the meadow with high-powered binoculars looking for who knows what.
I am glad for his hobby and service, and for him respecting climbers' wished not to be photoed. The reports bring some life into the cube.
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 20, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
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I don't understand the "I'm grateful we didn't have cell phones" line. Are cell phone on El Cap mandatory? Is there a rule somewhere that we have to carry them? Isn't it a personal choice to take one?
Does it bother you that other people have cell phones on El Cap? Really? I don't get it.
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PAUL SOUZA
Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
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Jun 20, 2013 - 02:48pm PT
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^^I agree, Mark.
I have and will continue to do so.
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Lambone
Big Wall climber
Ashland, Or
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Jun 20, 2013 - 03:20pm PT
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Tom is also really careful about what he lets tourons look at when working the Ask A Climber program. He always checks the scope first.
I didn't donate this season, but we bailed. Usually I give him $40 per visit for a cd.
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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Jun 20, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
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//I don't understand the "I'm grateful we didn't have cell phones" line. Are cell phone on El Cap mandatory? Is there a rule somewhere that we have to carry them? Isn't it a personal choice to take one?
Does it bother you that other people have cell phones on El Cap? Really? I don't get it.//
I wouldn't go up there without a cell phone now. That's just the nature of the world today, and arguably, it would be irresponsible to go up without one. What I meant was that I'm grateful that I didn't have to make that choice back in the day.
Times change. I'm good with that. But with every innovation, something is also lost. There was something about being up there and knowing it was just me and Frank.
And Mark, I enjoy your trip reports immensely. It's one of the first things I click on. Probably makes me a hypocrite. I'll live with that.
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Mees
climber
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Jun 20, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
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I kind of doubt the noobs he disses (often) in his reports asked for him to do that. To me that kind of commenting is low class and just mean. I don't care if they are doing it "wrong" or how badass of climber the photographer used to be. Did he get it right his 1st time out? did he have some dude peeping his progress and reporting what a phuq up he was to the world when he was cutting his teeth? Besides they're all butt shots!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 20, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
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Dude that last stick clip guy is famous!!
He definitely should show up at the bridge with that massive stick! If you're going to use a stick or do something that isn't in perfect form you might as well go do it big and be proud of it! Lol
Compared to the things us climbers say about each other out in the real world Tom is pretty mild, all in good fun and generally informative
Being slandered by Tom means at least you're up there. You'd have to have a thin skin to take it too seriously.
Plus he doesn't just pick on noobs he also got pete pretty good last year. Deservedly so
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Roots
Mountain climber
SoCal
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Jun 20, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
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Folks - spectators (and often climbers) have been watching teams progress up big walls/faces with scopes, etc since waaaaay back to early Alps climbing. This is nothing new.
Tom's service gets my vote! What a great souvenir to get a CD of your climb and for him to keep everyone up to date on teams' progress along their way. However, slamming noobs is unprofessional and should be stopped IMHO.
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