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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 13, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
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what are we fighting for? US to provide military support to Syria
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 13, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
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What could possibly go wrong?
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Jun 13, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
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A ghost of wars past, a cold war by proxy.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 13, 2013 - 06:58pm PT
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I wonder if anybody in the State Dept has read The Arab Mind.
The history of the last few decades suggests they have not.
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nutjob
Sport climber
Almost to Hollywood, Baby!
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Jun 13, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
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We have always been at war with Oceania.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jun 13, 2013 - 07:24pm PT
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Job security for future defense companies.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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Jun 14, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
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Well we know that you can trust everything a Russian official has to say.
& we know that you can trust anything & everything a U.S. official has to say.
What -- not to worry your pretty little heads over.
Every little things going to be OK.
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Bay Area , California
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Jun 14, 2013 - 07:03pm PT
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This war is all about :
1-Isreail securing the area and making sure Syria does not get any advance military hardware
2-Stop the supply of military hardware in/out of Lebanon
3-Stop Iranians hands from supplying Hezbollah in case Israeli plan to attack Iran
4- take over Syrian little oil supply
5-Stop Russian from having access to military bases in area
6-Securing an oil line from Saudi Arabia to Europe
7-Stopping Iranian from running similar oil line from Iran via Iraq to Europe by by-passing Persian gulf current shipping methods
8-And bunch of other middle eastern sh#t too complicated for you guys to understand
Do not forget that Turkey is next
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Jun 14, 2013 - 07:15pm PT
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We're so f*#king retarded.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jun 14, 2013 - 07:36pm PT
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R2P
Which differentiates us from grovelling apes.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Jun 14, 2013 - 07:39pm PT
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The only people who win in this deal ,are the arms suppliers.
Hence its inception!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 14, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
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You were expecting what, Amazonian animists or something?
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TREED
Trad climber
Gunks
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Jun 14, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
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The war business, and business is good.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 14, 2013 - 08:36pm PT
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When I ask my Christian Syrian friends which faction I should put my money
on they just laugh. They have zero faith in the US's ability to do anything meaningful.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jun 14, 2013 - 10:16pm PT
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Maybe if we just send in some military advisors
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Jun 14, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
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We're so f*#king retarded.
amen to that.....
but (sarcasm voice) will this be good for the economy for a while?
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jun 14, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
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This could be a win-win for the USofA.
We could shut up John McCain for a while and get those unemployed Vets back to work.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jun 15, 2013 - 12:26pm PT
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How can we make sure that both sides kill each other off?
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J man
Trad climber
morgan hill
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Jun 15, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
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That news first broke and all I could think is have they gone
completely nuts in the WH? But then no, its the standard ploy of
starting a war to distract from domestic scandals.
How old this gets.
Wasting people just to keep certain stories off the front page.
Syria is the Russians sand box to play in. They will object forcefully to us arming the people who are shooting at the people they have armed.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Jun 15, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
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What a mess. For everybody. Russia supplies weapons to one side, the US/NATO supplying weapons to the other side, Iran, Hezbollah, Israel, Turkey, everybody wants to get in on the act.
In the meantime, innocent people die, but it is a power game. Russia/China? on the regime side, US/NATO on the rebel side (which actually worries me, many of those 'rebels' would die to kill Westerners, welcome to the revolution).
Western/Judeo-Christian versus Islam. Sunni versus Shiite. Only one winner. The war machine.
And in the middle are a lot of dead innocent people.
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 15, 2013 - 04:26pm PT
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Let France or Italy save em.... Let the Brits handle it
Won't work.
The US govt is run by Israel.
The US congress is controlled by Israel.
The US MSM is run by Israel.
Hollywood is run by Israel.
Stupid Americans don't even know it.
United States of Israel .......
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jun 15, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
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Right now, the Bad Guys are slaughtering the Bad Guys. At no cost to The U.S. Treasury. It doesn't get any better than that.
Leave it to an Obama / McCain collaboration to f*#k it all up.
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 15, 2013 - 06:22pm PT
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Nothing like a German hating Jews, aye Werner?
Has nothing at all to do with Jews.
Absolutely nothing.
You need to research who runs Israel.
A bunch of ex criminals who are still criminals.
Even 60% of Israel population can't stand their criminal corrupt govt.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 15, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
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Shias and Sunnis butcher each other and some how it's all the fault of them Jooos.
Heinrich would be proud.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jun 15, 2013 - 07:04pm PT
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The US military-industrial complex will be showcasing its ravishing new drone models for the 2013-2014 Syrian Slaughter Season, complete with even more explosive action sequences and collateral damage capabilities. Hide your women and children, Lockheed-Martin is on the prowl.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 15, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
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General Atomics, not Lockheed Martin.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jun 15, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
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give them time...killing is big business, and business is good. Everyone will want a piece of the drone action.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jun 15, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
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You geniuses blaming Obama are hilarious. There is no answer, get it? All we can do is hope to contain this sh#t storm without pissing off another 500 million people. Unfortunatley there is no $$$$$ in that approach.
Here is the place to be
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jun 15, 2013 - 07:56pm PT
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I blame them all, from Bush to Obama.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jun 15, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
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it may have started in the 30's, but those two took the ball and f*#king sprinted like Jesse Owens with it.
Jeremy Scahill,Shadow Wars. Anyone read it?
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 15, 2013 - 09:38pm PT
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no reason to help the bad guys just cuz we have a conscious
We're all bad guys!
What planet have you been living on?
This IS the bad guys planet.
And there's no escape unless you're very very smart ......
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Jun 15, 2013 - 11:57pm PT
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Okay, so far we've established that Werner has an issue with Zionist mobsters (Google David Ben Gurion Hotel for perspective). Before you get all sanctimonious on my azz - read your freaking history and realize that we now bomb countries for the same sh#t that the Eurojews pulled in the 50s and the 60s to "reclaim their homeland".
We have also decided and rightfully so that the Chicago Gangster in the White House is a lying sack of poo covered with more Teflon than was Reagan. "Yo man - I don know whas happenin...I's just here for the watermelon and the campaign donations".
It's also pretty much a given that the dumbfuks from Kansas that keep signing up for the military will get killed and crippled for yet another BS reason for invading yet another who-gives-a-shit country...especially one that doesn't even have any freaking oil...but it beats working at the Mickey D's in Salina.
Which leads us to why the fuk do we care about Syria NOW?
Most likely reason - so we don't care about the AP Wire Taps, the IRS Targeting of Political Foes, the Benghazi Coverup, Eric Holder's war on state legal Medical marijuana, or the NSA Surveillance of citizens just to name a few.
I voted for this disingenuous black prick to rid myself of my Southern Guilt - now I wish I had voted for Hillary instead - at least given her age I would know to expect a Kunt.
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 16, 2013 - 11:04am PT
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After the Iran elections.
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has warned
The first guy to come out and scream is none other than the big instigating aszhole himself as usual.
This proves once again who's behind the whole Mideast nightmare .....
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jun 16, 2013 - 11:44am PT
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Once again the arms dealers of the world are enjoying a surge of business. They see peaceful revolutions and demands for justice as a new market.
Weapons are a lousy way to sort out ideas.
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Jun 16, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
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you kids are getting outa hand.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 16, 2013 - 05:18pm PT
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WTF?
you guys are making me sorry I ever opened this bag of snakes
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abrams
Sport climber
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Jun 16, 2013 - 05:39pm PT
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Zero empathy shown by rSin for Syrians who are being murdered by their own government for just petitioning for a redress of grievances is inhuman.
Are we piling on to much rSin? Just say when your mind gets right on this issue.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jun 16, 2013 - 06:41pm PT
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None of the brilliant political minds have seemed to consider what may very well be the actual action chosen: Not to do something that creates a winning side, but rather, to do something that maintains a state of uncertainty and chaos, and so keeps Iran significantly occupied there, rather than involved in mischief elsewhere.
Rong thinks he knows things about the players better than the gov't.
He doesn't.
At this point, there is not a side that appears to be better for US purposes than another. However, keeping Asad from winning is probably in our interests.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Jun 16, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
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rSin, I just got your avatar: you're a "caulk".
I think your troll is showing a bit too much with that.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 16, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
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"your government"?
what country do you believe Ken lives in, Ron?
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jun 16, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
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As someone with predominantly Irish heritage, my family immigrating during the height of the civil war and thereby subject to conscription in the union army to fight those impoverished southern boys forced to fight a war for the rich, I can say I've got some white nigger heritage. Bleached out even. We've all been niggers at some point. Just a stupid word
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jun 17, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
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Clinton told John McCain during a private Q and A on Tuesday in New York that Obama should be more forceful on Syria and should not rationalise with opinion polls that reflect Americans’ reluctance to tangle in foreign crises.
Yeah, private.
Who broke their word? Who had no integrity? Who altered the conversation to meet their needs?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jun 17, 2013 - 01:09pm PT
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Rong, I particularly like you parading out John McCain, who advocates all sorts of interventions beyond what we are currently doing, on the side that we are currently helping.
Explain that: You don't want us helping the insurgents some, but you are gung ho for helping them a lot????
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Jun 17, 2013 - 07:10pm PT
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How did that line go in Dr Strangelove - Well boys I reckon this is it !
Nuclear Combat toe to toe with the Russkies.
Of course its not nuclear. Just small arms. And its Syrians going against
each other and slowly reducing their cities to rubble.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 17, 2013 - 07:38pm PT
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What I don't get is why Obama is so fired up about Syria when he could be
'freeing' millions more people who suffer under far worse despots all
throughout Africa. Plus most of those jerks aren't very well armed. Plus
then we would get all their nice minerals instead of the Chinese.
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 17, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
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What I don't get is why Obama is so fired up about Syria
He's not.
He's under the gun by his handlers to do what they want.
His handlers are stupid lying fools who are running the world into ruin on purpose.
Obama can't do much by himself ......
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