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Hawkeye

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State of Mine
Jul 1, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
hedge, the heat must be short circuiting your left brain cell to the one on the right.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 1, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
President Putin has a (great) point about President Obama's "Peace" prize. Its completely and utterly unearned. I bet them Nobel-Deciders are embarrassed!

DMT
WBraun

climber
Jul 1, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
The thing is Putin in Russia is he's in Charge!

The thing in America is Obama is not charge.

He's pussy whupped by corporations, Wall Street, Bankers, Israel lobbyists.

The Jack ass is only orator.

He needs to get an iron fist.

Like him or not Putin can kick azz.

We got a lame azz president just like Hedge.

Lame azz President O bomer allows blackmailing everyone using NSA info illegally gained.

Jack azz Hedge supports this crap.

This crap has been known for years and is nothing new at all except now people are starting to understand it.

The gig is becoming up and those azzholes are getting nervous.

July 4th weekend is supposed to have a black ops Nuke in LA go off.

Joe start digging a bunker.

We don't want to lose you ....... :-)

WBraun

climber
Jul 1, 2013 - 05:55pm PT
I just told you now and thus you are now guilty.

There's no escape Joe.

Start digging the bunker ..... :-)
WBraun

climber
Jul 1, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
Snowden had to get out of the country.

They would have killed him here.

What he did is broke the law so he had to run.

There's no alternative for him.

Whistle blowers can get killed easily or jailed permanently.

What do expect him to do Joe.

They would destroy him here.

He has no chance except to run ....
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jul 1, 2013 - 06:18pm PT
As was the support of turncoat repub traitors who'd rather express love for Communist Russia than admit to being wrong.

joe, your an idiot. just because i agree with a russian general on a minor point doesnt mean i am expressing love for communist russia. especially since its a "federation" not communist. look up in your reliable cia world fact book. if you might recall, the iron communist curtain came crashing down around their ears.

nor am i a repub. nor a traitor.

you really are giving those two brain cells of yours a work-out today arent you?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 1, 2013 - 06:22pm PT
Congress hasn't seen fit to declare war. Congress voted to abstain from its constitutional responsibilities.

I would not take my national security concerns to ANY congressperson.

DMT
WBraun

climber
Jul 1, 2013 - 06:28pm PT
Joe c'mon man

You know there's no one in the US Congress he could actually trust right now to actually protect him.

You're pretty naive.

It would have been far to dangerous.

He knew he had to get out.

Anyways he's not important at this stage but a distraction.

The important stuff is really being buried under the distraction of "Snowden"

Start digging Joe.

We don't want to lose you this weekend .... :-)
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 1, 2013 - 06:28pm PT
And in WW2 he would have been, or hanged.

Like I said - in WW2 you'd have shot or hanged.

I see what you did here :-)

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 1, 2013 - 06:29pm PT
For sympathizing? No. There were plenty of conscientious objectors in the Great Generation.

DMT
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jul 1, 2013 - 06:38pm PT
Agreeing with a Communist Russian General in his praise of an American traitor who leaked national security op-sec to (and defected to) Russia.

so joe,

perhaps you would like to tell us what great things obama did to earn the Nobel Peace Prize?

edit:

I see what you did here :-)

me too. thats his violent braincell at work
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jul 1, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
"I think Snowden is a great pacifist. This man has done no less to get the Nobel Peace Prize than U.S. President Barack Obama.

well joe, lets try again. not to overwork those two braincells of yours....

the above quote is the one i partially agtree with. obama did no more than snowden to win teh pease prize. i have no idea whether snowden is a pacifist.

really, "why did BO win the peace prize?" did he risk death like snowden? no...

so what did BO do besdies BSing you?
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Jul 1, 2013 - 06:54pm PT
Uhmmmm, can we keep level heads here?

How this pans out, I do not know. Do any of you Taco Standers?

Is he a traitor or a hero? He certainly exposed a lot of crap (that was already known), but could he have done it in a better way? If he wanted to paint himself as a patriot/whistleblower.

Hell, I do not know. Better him than me, going through this.

I have enough on my plate.

Happy and safe climbing.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jul 1, 2013 - 06:57pm PT
wow hedge, thats the most intelligent thing you have said the entire thread. how did you manage to get both brain cells working at once?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Jul 1, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
That's, at least, sympathizing with the enemy, and at worst, sedition during wartime.

Well, the U.S. is not at war, for starters. So the death penalty is off the table imo. That's the price for Congressional dereliction of duty.

I have a big problem with the lack of a declaration, the curtailing if not outright suspension of the 4th amendment, kidnapping, torture, civil spying apparatus...

Taken as part of the greater whole? It seems as though Bin Laden was quite successful at killing what was left of American democracy.

Behold Citizen... EMPIRE.

DMT
WBraun

climber
Jul 1, 2013 - 07:00pm PT
Patrick

In this so called democratic society he's considered a traitor.

But .... !!!

Sometimes one has to become a traitor against your own society to reveal the truth.

The intelligent class will understand.

The unintelligent class will not understand.

At this point in time Snowden has become the distraction to the real issues.

Hedge believes his govt. will save him from whatever he believes.

A lot of others do not see in that light.

It takes good intelligence to see thru the whole thing not just the surface that the general media is portraying
as Hedge is being their lapdog, lapping it all up . ....


WBraun

climber
Jul 1, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
I would never NEVER turn on my own country. NEVER.


You do it all the time unknowingly by supporting it's nefarious actions against humanity.

The United States of America does not stand for nefarious actions against humanity.

The Untied States of America has lost it's way and thus you Hedge are a traitor for unknowingly supporting it's inhumane actions.

Better start that digging ....
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Jul 1, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
Out of all the tens of thousands of contractors with the same clearance Snowden had, he's the only one with a conscience?

This is your argument of proof - that there are people willing to forgo conscience for a paycheck?

Might shock you that every war crime tribunal parades hundreds of people though the courthouse doors who were "only doing their job". Working for a paycheck does not make it right.
WBraun

climber
Jul 1, 2013 - 07:59pm PT
A lot of people are speaking out from the govt. and have been.

But you're way too stupid to see that since you only gobble up The Huffington Post bullshit .....

You're a completely brainwashed politard .....
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jul 1, 2013 - 08:05pm PT
hedge,

now focus. russia is not communist anymore. (you are starting to sound like a teabagger).

also, russia needs little help from snowden in catching spies.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/14/russia-expel-us-diplomat-ryan-fogle

Ryan Fogle, the third secretary at the US embassy in Moscow, was paraded in footage aired on state-run television after being detained late on Monday night by officers from the Federal Security Service (FSB), a successor to the Soviet-era KGB.

He stands accused of being a CIA spy and was declared persona non grata by the foreign ministry on Tuesday .

"A classic spy arsenal was discovered, as well as a large sum of money that doesn't just expose a foreign agent caught red-handed, but also raises serious questions for the American side," the ministry said. "Such provocative actions in the spirit of the cold war in no way help to strengthen mutual trust."

this was back in May, barely two months ago.

now focus again....

NSA deals in cyber intelligence. if snowden does know about spy networks and names of spies, then the USA has a bigger problem than him. rule # 1 in the top secret game is only tell people who needs ot know. we should ahve figured that out with wikileaks. and if we havent, then we are not learning.
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