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jghedge

climber
Aug 22, 2013 - 08:50pm PT


IT IT'S SUCH A BLOODY OUTRAGE THEN WHY ARE YOU PAYING YOUR TELCO, YOUR ISP, YOUR BANK ETC TO DO IT TO YOU


Sorry, had to get that out
WBraun

climber
Aug 22, 2013 - 09:08pm PT
I'm not outraged.

They revealed themselves many years ago.

The stupid people here never listen back then and now are shocked.

Amazing how stupid people are and never listen and instead spend all their time watching Jerry Springer.

Bradly Manning will become woman, escape from jail and go on vacation with Hedge .....
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Aug 22, 2013 - 10:28pm PT
Hedge, your Telco/isp/bank/dealer aren't storing, or have the capacity to store every single packet of data you ever send. Something you said or did 10 years ago is irrelevant to Verizon trying to sell you a new phone today. Their goal as private corporations is to make money. If they overstep their bounds, then people will spend their money somewhere else.

The NSA is clearly out of control and answers to nobody. Oh, and they steal your money to fund themselves. As I mentioned before, there is zero chance of any sentient criminal using public communications to distribute major "terror plans". Afghan tribal leaders with zero education living in thatched huts in Afghanistan know not to use cell phones. It's all bullsh!t fear mongering used to create a host of tools to control and extort those who do not support the current regime.

It's not as if this is the first time governments have spied on, bribed, tortured and killed their own dissenters. Why is this hard to understand? It was done in the Bronze Age too.

Edward Snowden for President of the United States.
jghedge

climber
Aug 22, 2013 - 10:50pm PT
"It's all bullsh!t fear mongering used to create a host of tools to control and extort those who do not support the current regime."

"It's not as if this is the first time governments have spied on, bribed, tortured and killed their own dissenters. Why is this hard to understand? It was done in the Bronze Age too."


Interesting plot line. I'd wait to pitch it, though, till you've got a literary agent or two in the room, and the copyrights nailed down.

Oh and I'd ask who's really doing the most "bullshit fear-mongering" - right now, it's Snowden and Greenwald.


And why do I have to debate people who won't use their real name, but insist on using mine, when they're complaining about their individual privacy being breached?

Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Aug 23, 2013 - 11:56am PT
Bradly Manning will become woman, escape from jail and go on vacation with Hedge .....

only with hedge, manning may want to be the boy.
jghedge

climber
Aug 23, 2013 - 01:15pm PT
^^^^ Like I said...nothing there but childish drivel.
jghedge

climber
Aug 23, 2013 - 07:01pm PT
No More Anonymous Posters On HuffPost

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/jimmy-soni-comments_b_3807521.html


Good for them... nothing more obnoxious than strong opinions backed up (sic) with personal cowardice.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Aug 24, 2013 - 07:26am PT
Seems like Hedge was wrong when he tried to state that the MSM had blown over the Snowden story and as most folks were losing interest.

Now we have the NYT taking up the story to support the Guardian. Still Front Page News.

Joe, with all the latest 'revelations' about the depth of the NSA spying, I'm surprised you're still holding on strong to your position that it's all copesetic and perfectly within our constitutional rights.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Aug 25, 2013 - 01:21am PT
"US intelligence analysts have deliberately broken rules designed to prevent them from spying on Americans, according to an admission by the National Security Agency that undermines fresh insistences from Barack Obama on Friday that all breaches were inadvertent.

A report by the NSA's inspector general is understood to have uncovered a number of examples of analysts choosing to ignore so-called "minimisation procedures" aimed at protecting privacy, according to officials speaking to Bloomberg."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/23/nsa-analysts-broke-rules-spy
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Aug 26, 2013 - 09:36am PT
NSA and GCHQ: the flawed psychology of government mass surveillance

Research shows that indiscriminate monitoring fosters distrust, conformity and mediocrity

"Recent disclosures about the scope of government surveillance are staggering. We now know that the UK's Tempora program records huge volumes of private communications, including – as standard – our emails, social networking activity, internet histories, and telephone calls. Much of this data is then shared with the US National Security Agency, which operates its own (formerly) clandestine surveillance operation. Similar programs are believed to operate in Russia, China, India, and throughout several European countries.

While pundits have argued vigorously about the merits and drawbacks of such programs, the voice of science has remained relatively quiet. This is despite the fact that science, alone, can lay claim to a wealth of empirical evidence on the psychological effects of surveillance. Studying that evidence leads to a clear conclusion and a warning: indiscriminate intelligence-gathering presents a grave risk to our mental health, productivity, social cohesion, and ultimately our future."

http://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2013/aug/26/nsa-gchq-psychology-government-mass-surveillance
jghedge

climber
Aug 26, 2013 - 11:18am PT

"Seems like Hedge was wrong when he tried to state that the MSM had blown over the Snowden story and as most folks were losing interest."


Wasn't mentioned on any of the Sunday morning political talk shows AFAIK, not on the ones I watch anyway. At this point anyway, it's basically a fringe issue that extremists on either end of the spectrum are preoccupied with, and that media outlets give lip service to for journalistic cred, but that's about it.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Aug 26, 2013 - 03:20pm PT
Use one of these most likely Snowden did the same no trace of IP and where you are.

Credit: lostinshanghai


Credit: lostinshanghai

Credit: lostinshanghai

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Credit: lostinshanghai


Nice about this little guy you can change how many times for the password to self-destruct, this way when the cops pull you over and demands the password: you say F$ckyou8, they then say no that is not it, then you say try F$ckyou3, they try that one and again no: then you tell them they have one more chance and let them figure it out and anything on it is bye, bye, so long take it easy the stuff is history.

Red circle brings out different keyboard so anyone or is monitoring you has no clue in sequence as normal keyboard one uses. Plus you can run a truck over it and still can use.

Look our Government is stupid and backwards the Dell PCs that Uncle Sam bought years ago is old and they have no $$$ to buy proper tools to safeguard so they got their own selves to blame.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Aug 26, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Wasn't mentioned on any of the Sunday morning political talk shows AFAIK, not on the ones I watch anyway. At this point anyway, it's basically a fringe issue that extremists on either end of the spectrum are preoccupied with, and that media outlets give lip service to for journalistic cred, but that's about it.

Hedge, we all have a great, albeit a short opportunity to learn the truth about what's happening today. The truth is there.... sandwiched between the massive steaming bullshit pile of mainstream media and alien-invasions of infowars.com., it's there except you need to accept what you believe to be true right now probably isn't. The same rules of logic apply as they always have. The first step is to turn off the TV.
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Aug 26, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
pos traitor !!!

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/world/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/26/snowden-contacted-russia-before-he-left-hong-kong-suggesting-arrival-in-moscow-hardly-a-surprise-report
jghedge

climber
Aug 26, 2013 - 05:44pm PT


"it's there except you need to accept what you believe to be true right now probably isn't.


I believe neither you nor I know enough about national security to have an valid opinion on NSA data mining. That is true.
jghedge

climber
Aug 26, 2013 - 08:06pm PT

As I predicted weeks ago, Snowden's "revelations" have fallen of the national radar, and the current MSM coverage is now instead focused on his personal plight:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/26/us-usa-security-snowden-idUSBRE97P05M20130826?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=71


The gov't now has the ability to find out as much about you as Google already knows...the horror...
Lovegasoline

Trad climber
Sh#t Hole, Brooklyn, NY
Aug 26, 2013 - 10:27pm PT
lostinshanghai, what's that device?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 27, 2013 - 09:35am PT
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Aug 27, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
Lovegasoline,

It is a USB Flashdrive but not you’re run of the mill one. It has its own hard drive embedded into it.

So think as it as a separate PC.

It encrypts your password 2x and then 2x more making it four. So you would have to have a lot of computers to get past the system. Using a sentence for your password like: IlikeSuperTopoandiamonitMonday# will be hard for anyone to get into your system that is on your flashdrive.

It also has a vault that you can add an additional password.

So when you use google which I do not have or wiped out on my laptop and desktop goes to safe site Fire Fox and then you can look for info without that web site knowing your IP address so when they try to add cookies they do not show up or get in that drive. The D goes to E as put in cd or dvd which confuses the host or any PC.

Should be using FireFox for searches anyway and use for default.

Nice since you do not get any ads every 2 seconds or something running left to right on your screen. It will also block any website that is trying to add a virus to your PC or laptop.

I use it since I am overseas and need to give info [presentation]on my product. When you put it your host or their country PC they cannot copy anything or look at any files you have on that flashdrive. Drives them nuts.

You can buy them go to Ironkey.com, Amazon has them; I would stay away from them and get it from the source. They make for three groups: Military/Gov. , Personal [which I have] and Enterprise. Enterprise would mean you would buy 100-200.

Private no tracking on you, Enterprise can track your employees to see where there are and why are they in that country, this way you can control your files and not them and if need be transfer without them getting into the Companies files.

I think a 2 gig is around $100.00, 16 is $375.00. S250 is faster over D250 model

Just look up on site or punch ironkey and will give info.

blurred photo above was wrong my mistake: Use this one if you choose for password or commands and mark read only [giving or showing slides or written material for only their eyes only] plus they can not transfer anything to their PC.

Credit: lostinshanghai

"Protect data wherever it goes with Imation™ Flash Drives powered by IronKey™. Designed to meet the most extreme performance and security requirements of military, government and business, these physically hardened drives are outfitted with strong hardware encryption and use the algorithm approved by the Department of Defense (DOD)."

Providing you trust DOD. Sometimes better to trust your enemies: been there.
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Aug 30, 2013 - 08:49pm PT
Another release of information from Edward Snowden, published by the Washington Post.

This time its excerpts from a 178 page summary of the U.S. $52.6 billion “black budget” for fiscal 2013.

"The Post is withholding some information after consultation with U.S. officials who expressed concerns about the risk to intelligence sources and methods."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/black-budget-summary-details-us-spy-networks-successes-failures-and-objectives/2013/08/29/7e57bb78-10ab-11e3-8cdd-bcdc09410972_story.html

....Historical data on U.S. intelligence spending is largely nonexistent. Through extrapolation, experts have estimated that Cold War spending probably peaked in the late 1980s at an amount that would be the equivalent of $71 billion today.

Spending in the most recent cycle surpassed that amount, based on the $52.6 billion detailed in documents obtained by The Post plus a separate $23 billion devoted to intelligence programs that more directly support the U.S. military.

Lee H. Hamilton, an Indiana Democrat who chaired the House Intelligence Committee and co-chaired the commission that investigated the Sept. 11 attacks, said that access to budget details will enable an informed public debate on intelligence spending for the first time, much as Snowden’s disclosures of NSA surveillance programs brought attention to operations that had assembled data on nearly every U.S. citizen.

“Much of the work that the intelligence community does has a profound impact on the life of ordinary Americans, and they ought not to be excluded from the process,” Hamilton said.

“Nobody is arguing that we should be so transparent as to create dangers for the country,” he said. But, he added, “there is a mind-set in the national security community: ‘Leave it to us, we can handle it, the American people have to trust us.’ They carry it to quite an extraordinary length so that they have resisted over a period of decades transparency. . . . The burden of persuasion as to keeping something secret should be on the intelligence community, the burden should not be on the American public.”

Experts said that access to such details about U.S. spy programs is without precedent....
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