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Flydude
Trad climber
Prather, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 21, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
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I've just received some calls that there has been a large rock fall across the Tollhouse Traverse area that has caused siginificant damage particularly to large trees at the base and had filled the traverse with debris.
I plan to scout it out from the top shortly, however it appears that there is still some loose material that might cut loose. Probably best to stay clear of the western side for a while until things stabilize allowing future rockfall potential to be asessed.
Dwight
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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May 21, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
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Crazy! Thanks for the update, please let us know when you check it out. I was thinking of doing some early morning laps later this week, but now now!
I can't think of what would exfoliate above the TT? Maybe part of the dihedral, something up by cap rocks, or some of the chunks by the end of hang em high/free and easy?
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Flydude
Trad climber
Prather, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2013 - 01:31am PT
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Photos on tollhouse faceoff 2012...one big mo, fo boulder...yikes. luckily an isolated event...I hope...d.
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Flydude
Trad climber
Prather, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2013 - 01:34am PT
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... and mr. Limp...do you ever clip to anything anyway...watch for loose stuff and be safe...I like you dude...d.
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micronut
Trad climber
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May 22, 2013 - 11:05am PT
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The boulder must have been this one. The meatball in the upper left hand of the frame. Between the top out tree and the big square block to the right. Spooky.
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DaveyTree
Trad climber
Fresno
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May 22, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
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There definitely appears to be some tomfoolery. That thing doesn't look like it would be sent without help but who knows.
D, I am in to help with clean up. Let me know. I emailed you about bolts I owed you and some betta.
If I can get up there before a clean up I am thinking of posting a sign at the base to warn those that haven't got the news.
Glad no one was hurt!
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Flydude
Trad climber
Prather, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
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hairyapeman
Trad climber
Fres-yes
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May 22, 2013 - 03:37pm PT
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I bet some drunk idiots pushed it! Crazy. Will cancel my plans for taking rookies up to do the traverse until the fall I suppose. Keep us informed.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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May 22, 2013 - 03:42pm PT
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That's a purty flyer! Thanks for taking the time.
I'd bet on a car jack and drunk guys too...
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CKR
climber
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May 22, 2013 - 10:40pm PT
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Apologies for not posting sooner. We climbed the traverse last week and noticed the rockfall. Aside from what has already been said, the hangers on the traverse appeared to be in good shape.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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May 23, 2013 - 04:24pm PT
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Thanks for the update on the Traverse. If drunks and a car jack were the culprits, as I and others suspect, it won't be the first time drunks have messed with Fresno area climbing. Little Table Mountain used to be accessible to climbers by simply asking the landowners, the Urrutias, for permission. They never refused me.
Unfortunately, the road behind the cliff became a favorite hangout for the scourge of the foothills -- teenage drunks with rifles -- and the Urrutias convinced Madera County to abandon the right of way for the back road, so it is now entirely private, locked, and no one can get there legally any more.
I wish they would still let climbers on the land, and I'm not sure why they won't, but having heard bullets whiz by in the area where I was climbing, and hearing the laughter of the morons doing the shooting, I can understand why the landowners simply opted out of public use of their land. I know if I ever caught the guys shooting near me, my climbing rope and a handy oak tree may have been put to good use.
John
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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May 23, 2013 - 04:47pm PT
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first thing I thought was it was a trundle.
maybe rock should have taken out the unneeded retro bolts on the traverse route.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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May 23, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
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I too have wondered what the story was with those bolts - been there
a while but wtf, right next to a fine crack.
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DaveyTree
Trad climber
Fresno
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May 23, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
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Last time I did TT was a simul with a buddy who never climbed it. We were done in like 15 minutes and I didn't really have time to notice the extra bolts while he led. But now that I think back, he didnt use hardly any pro, just quick draws. Silly to place them by a crack.
John, I asked the land owners for permission about 8 yrs ago. The owner simply said they no longer allow climbing. He did say if I wanted to hike around it would be Ok. Not sure about the entire story behind 'No Climbing'. He wouldn't say.
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Ol' Skool
Trad climber
Oakhurst, CA
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May 24, 2013 - 07:23pm PT
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Clearly the work of the BBB
(Beerdrinking Billy Bobs)
The 'tops were great while they lasted. How about Heart of Crack and Oktoberfest Wall?
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Flydude
Trad climber
Prather, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2013 - 12:50am PT
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So, how about a clean/up and stabilization project.on Saturday June 1. I'm there if you want to joine...d.
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DaveyTree
Trad climber
Fresno
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May 27, 2013 - 11:27am PT
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Going to try and make it on the 1st. What time are you planning?
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doughnutnational
Gym climber
its nice here in the spring
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May 27, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
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I think the bolt were placed in order to lure gumbies into leaving gear. More than once I have retrieved biners from the bolts and once was lucky enough to get a one shiny new quick draw from all of the bolts on the first pitch.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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May 27, 2013 - 01:53pm PT
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Bummer, I'm doing a fundraiser golf tournament on the 1st or I'd join. Be safe up there!
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