One of those days from hell.... count your blessings


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Social climber
May 15, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
Glucose works much faster than other sugars and carbs (like OJ) because your body spends a few minutes converting these other sugars into glucose. Cut out the middle man! Try to always have some of these with you:

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Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
May 15, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
I hope you feel better.


Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
May 15, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
these frickin young doctors now days,

use to get tetracyclin for lung infections from my old doc,

now they want to save those for when i really need them, like when i'm dead,

can not count the number of times i would have been happier had they just givin me the stickin pills,

i mean when your pushin 60, what is the point of saving them for later?

i want to enjoy life now, not when i am dead,

going to break into a pharmacy if they keep this crap up,

billionaire pill companies will come up with a new drug anyway, rant over,


Trad climber
Douglas, WY
May 15, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
My best thoughts for you, Pat! It really sucks to get old, doesn't it?

Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
May 15, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
Hey Brokedown, Miss yo.:D

Good thing is ..... at least we are here to get old. Smiles, lynnie

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
May 16, 2013 - 12:06am PT
Leggs - Thank you for the reminder to count our blessings, Pat. Many forget...

So true.

I believe that is instrumental, in both getting through those valleys of despair that we unfortunately encounter as we travel the long and winding road called life, and in appreciating what we do have and not letting the emphasis be on what we don't have in our day to day life. Counting our blessings while we still have the time to appreciate them is something I probably should have done more of throughout my life. I still need that occasional reminder, so thanks! And btw, you're a blessing to us, and are in my thoughts and prayers. Hope your feeling better soon.

Social climber
May 16, 2013 - 12:47am PT
hey there say, patrick... get well soon...

there must be a connection??? to the glucose, or blood pressure thing??
and the eye pain?

just guessing, as it all happened at once...

a friend of mine, from england, take blood pressure medicine to keep her blood pressure down, in her EYE... she has some kind of condition, and the pressure builds up in her in eye, she was going to go blind from this, but they found out what it was and this has kept it at bay, though she can't can't always do strenuose eye-work... and is not good in bright light...

forgot what this was called, or how they found it... it has not affected her other eye, which was good...

it has something to do with the blood vessels, somewhere in or around? the eye...

hope you eye will be okay...
if it keeps happening, you may want to check around with some other doctor on that...

keep your spirits up! and keep sharing when you are down,
friends will be more than happy to give you a hand to higher ground, :)
Rick A

Boulder, Colorado
May 16, 2013 - 08:30am PT
Hope you are feeling better. If you can get outside in the glorious spring weather that finally arrived, it is bound to help.
Michelle Gill

Redding, CA
May 16, 2013 - 11:00am PT
I don't know what compelled me to read your thread, Pat. But I'm glad I did. I hope you are well on the mend. Your writing reminded me of my husband Ian, who was a big wall climber as well. Bless his heart, he passed away 6 months ago and I miss him terribly. Thank you for the reminder to feel blessed on the good days. I am just taking this one day at a time myself. Here is a link to his last thread if you would like to read it.
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 16, 2013 - 08:22pm PT
Thank you so much, Michelle. Ian was a very impressive spirit. Sometimes
it seems the great ones are given the greater tests. I wish I had
known him, but I sensed him and grew to like him in just the messages
he posted.
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 17, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
When I get it little bit better together I want to
climb in Eldorado. Rick, you owe me (haha). Take me
up something easy... just for the view and to think of Layton....

Social climber
May 18, 2013 - 01:46am PT
Hey Pat
I have just reached P83 in "Stories of a Young Climber", it's a fun read--and a marked contrast to the opening post in this thread. I hope you're feeling better today.
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2013 - 04:43am PT
Yes that was another mostly journal piece, just start writing
and see what unfolds. I then later cut about half of it, but
as I look back now it definitely needed more work. That was my
thing for a while, simply to write and then, if I felt it was
at least ok, publish it....

Trad climber
May 18, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
I had the same problem, very painful. I cured it with fasting. I used the fruit fast with an occasional shot of buttermilk. Eat only to prevent traumatic starvation, some days hardly any fruit at all. And buttermilk only when starvation feels quite desperate, once or twice a week at first then less often. You can eliminate the buttermilk and drink grass juice instead for a better program. Wheatgrass or wild grasses sprouting up in the high mountains as the snow melts off. Chew up the wild grass, suck down the juice, and spit out the pulp.
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
Cliffhanger, not sure what particular problem you're referring to, and
I don't quite follow your thoughts about buttermilk and mountain grass,
etc. Are you talking about the glucose level drop?

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
May 18, 2013 - 10:40pm PT
Eat only to prevent traumatic starvation


May 18, 2013 - 11:57pm PT
With your problems, Pat, IMHO that diet sounds like a disaster.


Trad climber
May 19, 2013 - 04:07am PT
I was referring to the eye problem. You eat enough so that your body only uses the food it has stored for lean times, primarily your fat. All of your muscle and organs are preserved. You eat very little at first but when your fat is gone, you up your intake to give yourself the needed calories. Fruit is very easy for the body to digest, giving all your internal organs a chance to heal themselves.
Patrick Oliver

Boulder climber
Fruita, Colorado
Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2013 - 06:18pm PT
Sorry, but that diet wouldn't work with me. Almost any fruit
seriously spikes my blood, even with insulin. And when I don't
eat and try to lose weight, I get serious drop-outs the other
direction. It's a messy disease, diabetes, and you can't deal with
it in any normal sort of way. There are, of course several kinds
of diabetes. There is type 1, where you don't have insulin in your
body. Then there is type 2, where you have insulin but it doesn't
get through the receptors, so you take medicine to open the receptors,
or you bathe yourself in insulin (as I'm doing). Another kind of
diabetes is environmental, where you simply manifest the symptoms
of diabetes by eating too much and getting overweight. If you lose
the weight and start eating right, the symptoms go away. This kind
would respond well to a starvation diet of sort, if it isn't
too sudden, because in fact with this kind you really
don't have diabetes. My type: if I were to lose 80 pounds and get
really fit I would still have it. The battle is simply to keep the
blood glucose levels as close to normal as possible, and in my case
that's an hourly battle....

Trad climber
May 20, 2013 - 02:30am PT
A friend of mine also has Type 1. We thought that maybe if a small piece of fruit was eaten say about every 15 minutes +/- it might work. But she too was unwilling to try it. I gave up all animal products except buttermilk after my eye problem and it never reoccurred. Maybe that would be worth a shot.

Good luck with everything.
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