"Palm Springs CL is the closest, and where the JT, 29, Yucca valley, etc listings are."
"I gotta think that Jtree might be prime for you ."
yea sounds like it could be the spot!
"Susanville and a pipe maker,, the perfect match.."
ill look into it, never heard of it. I don't like to think of myself as a pipe maker first and foremost though... Many pipers I know pride them self on their occupation, personally I'm more proud of being self employed than being a glassblower... I think the glass scene is extremely lame me find myself much more interested in the climbing scene by far!!! I appreciate my job but don't exactly appreciate revolving your life around it.
"To save you a trip to Joshua Tree here's a representative shot of what
passes for culture there...(jess sayin')"
lol well that's not the best picture to represent JT for me since I drink a few times a year beyond a single beer and will never get a tattoo... Hahaha. I don't mind hanging out with the tattooed drinkers though.
"If you buy a house in the Oaks in Santa Paula, CA. You will have all that and more. We had left our garage wide open with all my Dad's tools, our climbing, camping gear, etc. Came home a week later and all was still there. I don't advise doing that, but it is nice that we didn't get it stolen You can't buy that kind of environment and...
The properties are big here. Lots of big garages apart from houses, a few are even old barns. Houses rarely go on sale in this neighborhood, but when they do... It's worth a little extra to be in an extraordinary neighborhood."
Ill add Santa Paula to the list of considerations! I went hiking by the college before and thought it was cool, despite the graffiti all over the rocks by the waterfall...damn kids!
"I can't count how many head shops there are on Hwy 50 in South Lake Tahoe. There is also a pretty steady supply of seasonal worker broheims who probably bust their pipes trying to dislodge a resin plug from the carb with a straightened hanger or forget to take their onie out of their back pockets and crush them when they jump on the chairlift during their liftie breaks. You can probably move a lot of glass here.
For $1300 or less you can get a 3 bedroom with 2 car garage. Crossfit gym is minutes away but no real rock gym."
hahaha good call... Although to be honest though I don't sell to shops and always sell direct via online. Shops pay or want to pay half of my retail value so they can sell things at a profit. I also don't sell any pipes for less than $200 usually if ever so I don't have any real need to rely on shops/random people since my customer base is loyal and something I'm very grateful for.
"At first it seemed like "it's all about the garage,
but from your discussion of different locations,
you rule places out based on how cool the local glassblowers are,
or a driveby view of SF.
And your dismissal of Bishop based on how its "small population and no gym means it will be hard to find people to climb with" is kinda sad.
Have you heard of bouldering before? You can meet people climbing on boulders. :-)
More practically, it sounds like you need to do your own (less superficial) tour of different locations and meet the local glass folks. Check out the local outside climbing/climbers, too - it is not all about gyms in Cali (and Nevada)."
Well with out the garage I can't work from home and save money not renting a studio to work in, so it will always be key. Especially if I'd like to be somewhere longer term than a year.
If you had people you worked with in an industry that you didn't like, wouldn't you opt for the luxury or not working near them? I know I would for the most part. It's not like there's no way I'd move to SB but I would like to keep my options open and my mind open beyond somewhere I've lived right by when I know the potential discomfort that would be brought by being there.
The drive by view of SF was simply proof to myself of what kind of city it is by the way it's setup. Vancouver BC is personally still the only city I'd ever imagine myself moving to happily which I've been to. I'm not a huge fan of city's like many other people. For example, I think NYC is a total hell hole. Most people love NYC or the idea of it... I was hanging out with two from SF today who said I'd love it, but still I dunno. I will keep my mind open a bit toward it still despite my first impressions.
Of course you can meet people bouldering also, I personally find the gym a little more realistic to meet people though. Everyone is different, I'm more on the shy side in person and usually wouldn't just walk up to others (who'd usually be in groups) outdoors compared to in the gym.
"Tahoe lacks that too. Although Incline has a good gym (High Altitude). As far as I can tell the only place to really hang out and meet cool people is DSky, Whiskey Dicks, or Raley's.
A HUGE pothead friend from Boulder came through South Lake a few years ago and was "hella impressed" by the head shops. Maybe more than a few years. Several dispensaries have been shut down over the last year or two."
well at the very least there seemed to be about 3 gyms near Tahoe when I looked last if my memory is serving me right. I also wouldn't consider myself a huge pothead anymore either so weed things are not a huge incentive beyond being in a state with laws that make me comfortable working there (this is why I think twice about Utah).. Still, I started in MA with glass and ill be back there before moving west so it isn't a total deal breaker... Actually, after visiting Yosemite I was inspired to quit smoking. I quit for 5 months before being in Nepal, which lead to me starting again... And here I am in Thailand smoking every so often. Although I am over my habit being as excessive as it has been in the past years... Too many more important things in life to spend money and time on, specifically traveling.
another I've never heard of ill have to look into it, thank you!
You're right to a point, Dingus, but there are lower income communities in San Diego, they don't get the press that the coastal enclaves do, but plenty of single guys and girls make a living and pay rent on a low income round here. You have to sacrifice space to be by the beach, but the ocean stabilizes the weather to what has to be some of the best in America. Imperial Beach, Ocean Beach, and Pacific Beach all have reasonable rents. If you want space for the same dollar there are inland communities that get more rural and cheaper as you move inland. The downside is they also get hotter in the summer months, but they're closer to the climbing.
Tahquitz, Suicide, and all the world class bouldering of the tram and Black Mountain are a bit over 2 hours away. Josh is about 3 hours, and the excellent climbing within the County is only just beginning to become public knowledge. El Gran Trono Blanco is just over the border also.