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Trad climber
LA, CA
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May 27, 2013 - 03:45pm PT
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Are the topos, gear lists, photos, route descriptions more detailed/informative then the latest Vogel guide? Is it like a supertopo version?
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BG
Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
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Topic Author's Reply - May 29, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
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Are the topos, gear lists, photos, route descriptions more detailed/informative then the latest Vogel guide? Is it like a supertopo version?
Yes, text descriptions are much more detailed, with pitch by pitch written descriptions.
The topos are photo diagram style (like in my book Best Climbs Joshua Tree National Park), with the routes drawn over actual photos of the cliff. There are also 14 pages of old school hand-drawn topos for bolt intensive areas like the Weeping Wall, Sunshine face, Flinstone Slab, etc.
The gear lists are more detailed.
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Fluid
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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May 30, 2013 - 08:19pm PT
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Thanks, Bob, really looking forward to it, I always enjoy your work, the guidebooks and routes both.
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BG
Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
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Topic Author's Reply - May 31, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
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Thanks Fluid...it's in the stores now and available at Nomad Ventures.
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Nice book, Bob! Couldn't wait for my Amazon preorder once I saw the book at Gear Co Op... so when my Amazon order arrives I'll have two books, haha... I'll probably give one to my son so he can start his collection going. :) Joe
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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I bought it;....it has hinterland area, owl rock, and a bunch of stuff not in any other guidebook. This summer, I'm doing stuff I haven't done up there before;...and now I got the goods. If you have the "old" guides.....well;.....best get the latest new info......I also like alternatives to the established classics, which can get crowded on the Sat/Sunday.......time to get busy up in Idyllwild...
Here is Shelby Beardslee a few weeks ago on his birthday climb on Tahquitz..
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BG
Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 5, 2013 - 01:01pm PT
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The new book is now available at Nomad Ventures climbing shop in Idyllwild.
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BG
Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 12, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
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now shipping from amazon.com with a current price of $16.70
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 12, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
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Got an email from Amazon today saying my copy has been shipped...looking forward to seeing it!
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Jun 12, 2013 - 04:24pm PT
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Fat Dad...I did some foraging in that area with a guy named steve mackay back in 75...Steve also called it the Pink Floyd wall
It's interesting how oral history can be pretty accurate. I think that the guy who told me that name also knew Steve Mackey. Never met him but wasn't he the guy who did that old Rubidoux guide?
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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Jun 18, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
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got my book in the mail over the weekend!
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TYeary
Social climber
State of decay
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Jun 18, 2013 - 06:46pm PT
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Got mine, Bob! Great job. I love the format and for most folks , it's got everything they'll want to do. I still owe you one for Graceland. I never knew about the tree trick and lead to the first bolts with my knees slapping like castanets(as Largo would say). Sorry to see it didn't make the cut.
Congrats on a very nice guide!
TY
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BG
Trad climber
JTree & Idyllwild
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 19, 2013 - 12:47am PT
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Thanks Tony.
That tree at the start of Graceland is dead now, and looks like it might fall down one of these days. Someone added a bolt to the start so you no longer need to use the tree for any protection shenanigans. Must have been scary without the tree and without the bolt!
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Fletcher
Trad climber
The great state of advaita
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Jun 19, 2013 - 01:30am PT
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Got mine recently too. Just what I always wanted! Nice work!
Eric
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Jun 19, 2013 - 10:45am PT
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Just ordered one new for $14. Looking forward to receiving it!
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John Butler
Social climber
SLC, Utah
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Jun 19, 2013 - 11:00am PT
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Nice job on the book. So stoked I booked a cabin and will soon be sliping down the slide for the first time since late 70s :-)
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Jun 19, 2013 - 11:53am PT
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What a blessing it was to have those crags growing up, with all those FFAs to do, on such perfect rock, in such a great setting, with such an iconic history. Because of the hike and the trad scheme common back then the place, combined with all the pure crack climbking out at Josh, was the perfect training ground for the trad monster of the 70s and 80s. After a good winter at Tahquitz and Josh we could go up to the Valley and crush it.
One of the most interesting articles we might ever see would be for a new hotshot to go back and climb those routes in pre-EB shoes like Robbins boots or PAs.
Nice effort Brother Gaines!
JL
One of these dudes could do the old stuff in the old shoes, and on that hangs a story . . .
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Jun 20, 2013 - 10:23am PT
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I got my copies yesterday (two: one to use and one to keep pristine).
Thanks, Bob, it's beautiful. I especially liked the treatment of the newer/obscure stuff east of Tahquitz - I've walked under lots of that and wondered many times.
Oh yeah, thanks too for a crappy night's sleep. I stayed up reading the book until after midnight...
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