Motorcycle takes out two bicyclists on Mulholland Dr.

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Some Random Guy

climber
Under a Little Pink Umbrella
May 1, 2013 - 09:50am PT
If someone who's injured wants to sit up or do whatever, there's not much you can do about it.
You can say, "you should stay still, you may have a spine injury" but...

Holding someone who's injured when they don't want to be held or crowded may result in the good old fight part of the fight or flee reflex.

yeah totally correct. i've been in a situation where i tried to help a trauma victim and they wouldn't listen at all. i tried to explain that it is in there best interest to not move until the paramedics arrived and took over. no bueno. it all boils down to legal consent. oh well, i tried.....


not to mention that you could have a subdural hematoma going on. you may seem fine right after, maybe a slight headache, but later that day when you go to bed you may never wake up. the pressure in your skull keeps slowly rising so much so that eventually it kills you. it has happened to many a people :(
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
May 1, 2013 - 10:05am PT
I was playing volleyball with a guy who took a fall on concrete. He got up, even though we all told him to sit until we could asses his condition, and ran into a fence post because he was so messed up from the fall. He still insisted that he was ok and then we find out later that he drove to the ER instead of going home. The guy was smart enough to know he was hurt but way to egotistical (and stupid) to admit it to anyone there. I've hear the phrase "...died from embarrassment" but dying to avoid embarrassment? Sheesh.

That helmet sure did save that bike-riders life. A fall from three or four feet onto the pavement on his head could not have ended well without it.

Dave
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
May 1, 2013 - 10:45am PT

They knew Mulholland was a speed zone.
Yes. How dare those cyclists believe they could use the roads without someone crashing into them.


Well you wouldn't wear all red yelling blood, in an all crip neighborhood.
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
May 1, 2013 - 10:53am PT
Clear highway, no other traffic, perfect visibility... How could he not have seen the cyclists? How, with the entire highway available to him, could he not have avoided them?


You can see him start to sit up in the apex. To me this looks like he felt he couldn't hold the lean angle with the speed he had and felt he had to sit up. I may be being picky but it kinda looks like he apexed too early and was on the throttle too soon (I can't get sound so don't know!). Just my 2 cents, I'm sure he saw the bicyclists but instead of lean harder he sat up, expanding his turn radius.


-JR
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 1, 2013 - 10:55am PT
yur Hollywood stuntman goes through worse beatings voluntarily..
NotIt

Trad climber
SF, CA
May 1, 2013 - 11:24am PT
Jeremy Ross, I think you've got it.

Inexperienced rider mistake, and usually ends way worse than this: don't have the lean to keep your turn radius, freak out that you don't have enough speed to increase your lean, and your (very instinctual) defense mechanism) is to let off the throttle or hit the brakes.

Sucks that he involved others in it.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
May 1, 2013 - 11:40am PT
Well you wouldn't wear all red yelling blood, in an all crip neighborhood.

Yeah, because those two activities are pretty identical.
Snowmassguy

Trad climber
Calirado
May 1, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
Road biking scares the crap out of me. I frequently feel more secure on run out terrain that I have on a bike on the side of a highway.
Jeremy Ross

Gym climber
May 1, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
Yeah, NotIt I like your explanation. Illustrates the instincual nature of inexperience to sit up like he did and freeze. I know I've done it before lol! Sit up, eyes wide and just saying "oh sh#t oh sh#t oh sh#t Im going to run out of road oh sh#t....whew I almost ran out of road" lol. I'd like to think I wouldn't do that anymore, but I've been wrong before....

I'm sure the motorcyclist is thinking back on it and concluding that a low side would have been a better outcome, but I'm sure a more experienced rider would have avoided any trouble.



-JR
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
May 1, 2013 - 02:09pm PT
I know I've done it before lol! Sit up, eyes wide and just saying "oh sh#t oh sh#t oh sh#t Im going to run out of road oh sh#t....whew I almost ran out of road"

I've done it before, too. Except for the "whew I almost ran out of road" part. I got to the "oh sh#t oh sh#t oh shit" part, and then broke a lot of bones. (happened on a bicycle, not a motorcycle, but the principle is the same)

But from the look of the video, he didn't even try to avoid the cyclist.
brennahm

Trad climber
Denver, CO
May 1, 2013 - 02:27pm PT
Someone nailed it early with target fixation.

As an avid motorcyclist myself...that guy on the SV should be taken to court and whipped.
treez

Trad climber
99827
May 1, 2013 - 03:05pm PT
^^^^^^^^

I hear "look where you want to turn" a lot.

The way I ride my motorcycle, the cyclists would have been passing me.
moacman

Trad climber
Montuckyian Via Canada Eh!
May 1, 2013 - 03:16pm PT
Dumb azzz........

Stevo
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 1, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
Y'all think 'LA' stands for something other than Lotsa Azzholes?

I quit riding my road bike around here.
I only feel marginally safer in my F150.
JLP

Social climber
The internet
May 1, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
I've carefully analyzed the sound and video.

He got distracted by the woman's ass and crashed.

He's staring right at her position, making no effort to turn or change his control until it's way too late.

Botching a turn looks way different.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
May 1, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
A cyclist was killed this morning here in Seattle, on the route I ride to work every morning. From the reports available, and from knowing the intersection where it happened, it looks likely that it was his own fault, but we'll have to wait and see. (News report here: http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020898284_bikefatalxml.html);

Be careful out there.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
May 1, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
I wonder how much experience that mc rider had. Wouldn't it have been weird if the truck hauling the bike crashed into a bunch of mc riders on the way to the shop?

I spent quite a bit of time running on Mulholland, always facing traffic.



rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
May 1, 2013 - 07:40pm PT
He's alright....Yeah right...That poser douche on the motor scooter needs a road side beat down....
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
May 1, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
SV650s are cool bikes.

I used to have a Hawk GT, a very similar bike. I wish I never sold it.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
May 1, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
Oh christ...! Now this is gonna turn into a bitchin motor scooter thread....
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