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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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I know I've done it before lol! Sit up, eyes wide and just saying "oh sh#t oh sh#t oh sh#t Im going to run out of road oh sh#t....whew I almost ran out of road"
I've done it before, too. Except for the "whew I almost ran out of road" part. I got to the "oh sh#t oh sh#t oh shit" part, and then broke a lot of bones. (happened on a bicycle, not a motorcycle, but the principle is the same)
But from the look of the video, he didn't even try to avoid the cyclist.
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brennahm
Trad climber
Denver, CO
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Someone nailed it early with target fixation.
As an avid motorcyclist myself...that guy on the SV should be taken to court and whipped.
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moacman
Trad climber
Montuckyian Via Canada Eh!
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Dumb azzz........
Stevo
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Y'all think 'LA' stands for something other than Lotsa Azzholes?
I quit riding my road bike around here.
I only feel marginally safer in my F150.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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I've carefully analyzed the sound and video.
He got distracted by the woman's ass and crashed.
He's staring right at her position, making no effort to turn or change his control until it's way too late.
Botching a turn looks way different.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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A cyclist was killed this morning here in Seattle, on the route I ride to work every morning. From the reports available, and from knowing the intersection where it happened, it looks likely that it was his own fault, but we'll have to wait and see. (News report here: http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020898284_bikefatalxml.html);
Be careful out there.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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I wonder how much experience that mc rider had. Wouldn't it have been weird if the truck hauling the bike crashed into a bunch of mc riders on the way to the shop?
I spent quite a bit of time running on Mulholland, always facing traffic.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Oh christ...! Now this is gonna turn into a bitchin motor scooter thread....
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
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I'd be really surprised if he did not have compression fractures in his lumbar and/or cervical vertebrae. Whiplash and a head injury for sure. Did you hear him right after the crash? That type of sound coming from a man usually means bad sh#t.
I've seen & packaged this type of fall in terrain parks.
1. Whiplash, plus un know possible internals from impact. Hard to tell what speed motorcyclist was going at point of impact, 25, 35 mph?
2. head smacks ground and compresses neck
3. legs come up and compress/stretch lower spine rather violently
yeah, bystanders were way clueless. Gave me goosebumps to see him walk. WTF, why did no one dial 911 immediately? In video you can hear this.
What can U do? Be VERY assertive that he needs to lie still and prone. Do you want to die? Works pretty good. Go over ALL possible outcomes, including death from a ruptured spleen or head injury and paralyzes from spinal cord injury. Don't sugar coat anything. Scare the crap out of them. Great way to hold C spine is with your knees. That way your hands are free to use phone, check vitals, control bleeding or grab flailing arms. You can also do chest compressions if it comes to that.
Had a guy ski/walk into patrol room after taking a tomahawk type fall on upper mountain (his words). Said his back hurt pretty bad. When he sat on edge of cot, I watched his face turn grey and he stood right back up. I palpated his back and he had point tenderness mid spine. I asked the normal questions about numbness and tingling. I thought he was going to faint. Turns out he was a PT and all 4 extremities were on fire. He knew what that meant. Had to calm him down, C collar and backboard him standing. Rest of patrol was on sweep. I lowered him to floor and called for an ambulance. He had fully fractured his T5, one wrong move........
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Leggs
Sport climber
Is this a trick question?
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My post/opinion from my FB page when I first saw this video clip ...
Something just doesn't seem right about all this... esp the motorcyclist, clearly hugging the center line, THEN plowing into a GROUP of riders in the bike lane...
I'm not sure what to think ... Wear a helmet, of course.
Was this "staged" in some way... I don't know. It just doesn't make sense why the guy on the motorcycle would direct his bike into the path of cyclists when he had full clearance. I make this statement having driven up and down Mt. Lemmon hundreds of times, where cyclists and motorcycles have gotten along fairly well.
My 2 cents.
Carry on.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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I know a bicycle rider - a real hard ass bicycle rider, that got his knee clipped by a motorcyclist up there, and he's a motorcyclist himself - an old hard ass dirt guy - lots of broken bones and all from his dirt days. I wonder what went through his mind when it happened - what really went through there. He probaly wished he had about a 1000 cc.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Before Bruce Hawkins became a Yosemite hardman he was living in New Mexico.
One day he was out soloing and took a grounder. It hurt but he got up and
walked the half mile back down the mountain to his cabin. The next day he
was really hurting but he got into the back seat of a VW Bug and was
driven to Seattle! Did I mention that Bruce was a good 6'-2"? That
took two days. The day after he got to Seattle he walked into the public
health hospital there and, yup, he had a couple of fractured vertebrae!
It's always better to be lucky than good.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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He musta needed time to think.
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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I've ridden most of the good mountain road rides in the S. Cal area. What this video shows is exactly why I stay away from certain roads on the weekends, Mulholland being one of them.
On a similar note, a friend of mine was riding on the Angeles Crest Hwy and had the same thing happen to him. While these two riders were lucky enough to walk away, he wasn't due to a shattered pelvis.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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There are definitely certain rides I have not ridden because of traffic issues. ACH is one of them, despite it's popularity. I just don't put that much faith in drivers on terrain like that: narrow roads, small or no shoulder, sharp corners. No thanks. I've ridden Mulholland lots of times though, always on weekends, and never felt at risk. Perhaps that feeling of safety was illusory.
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10b4me
Ice climber
Happy Boulders
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I used to ride ACH. I would hit it early(6amish) on a saturday morning, but no more. Too many crazy drivers(mostly in cars)
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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If they'd close Angeles Crest Highway, it'd be safe for bicycles.
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