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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Apr 26, 2013 - 07:37pm PT
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You might want to be tested for gout as that is one of the reasons for early kidney stones. Diet is important if you are susceptible to them but first they have to figure out what kind it is.
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sharperblue
Mountain climber
San Francisco, California
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Apr 26, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
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Oh yeah! Love 'em! had my first when i was 19; last one was seven years ago. Lots of water of course, and run/jog just a bit each day; it will quite literally shake them loose when they're very small and passable. Enjoy!
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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Apr 26, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
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Feel for ya. Had my first one a few months ago, and I am pretty sure you're a bit older then I am.
Like you, I started getting some warning a few days beforehand, but I had an idea what was about to happen. What I didn't realize was how intense the pain was going to be. I have a pretty high pain tolerance, deal with it on a daily basis anyways - but that stone had me on the floor curled up in a ball. They had to give me 2 shots in the ER - and not light ones - before I could even straighten out or respond to anything normally. Took 2 more days for the last of it to pass.
I do NOT look forward to going through that again, but once you get one you are very likely to have more. Trying to up my water intake and hope like hell it doesn't come back for a while.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Apr 26, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
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Ouch!
You have my sincere sympathy!
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SCseagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Apr 26, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
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Doc said the consensus 3 worst pains are....childbirth, heart attack and kidney stones.....
Heard about stones and childbirth...didn't know about the heart attack.
So welcome to the crowd, childbirth one anyways!
Heal fast.. Amazing how something so small could wreak such havoc
Susan
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Leggs
Sport climber
Is this a trick question?
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Apr 26, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
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This too shall pass...
YEP... thank goodness. I hope the "process" is a bearable one for you, Cragman... my thoughts are with you.
(When I had my son, all 8lbs 2oz (22inches long) of him, without drugs on an AF Base in Texas, I realized I could handle a tremendous amt of pain. Still afraid of heights, but I survived giving birth to my son.
Granted, my father stated he could hear me all the way down the hall ... but I'd like HIM to try it and see if HE too threatens the life of an OB Tech.)
~peace to you, D.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 26, 2013 - 08:31pm PT
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Walked into the emergency room and without a word the doc says, "you're passing a kidney stone." So I ask how he could possibly know that? He says, "we get about a dozen a week through here. They all have the same look you're sporting."
Had four of them so far. Now I have a drug kit at home and in the car stocked with Oxycodene and Soma (Carisoprodol). Probably hard to get scripted for the Soma, but it's a muscle relaxant which greatly eases the passage while the Oxycodene deals with the pain.
Of the four attacks, I've had them come on slow with it taking me awhile to even figure out what was happening and had one happen all at once like being hit with a mac truck and making me pass out within a minute of the very first sign.
And that one was when I was belaying. Fortunately my partner was close to the anchor and I had just enough time to tell him to get to it as I was dropping to my knees in a purple haze at which point I locked-off hard with my hand close to the device and passed out on out on top of it. That worked as my partner was then stuck at the anchor until some other guys came rapping off at the end of their climb and could roll me off the belay and let him down. Could have been worse and now I have to make sure I'm solidly hydrated before climbing.
However it happens, you don't want to be more than a few minutes away from some seriously big-time pain meds for the duration. You basically just don't want to be incoherently conscious and writhing in pain for the whole show.
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DonC
climber
CA
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Apr 26, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
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I've had one on each side. For me, the pain was in the back/kidney area as it moved from the kidney to the bladder - like a knife in the side, over and over. I feared the final exit from the bladder, but did not have a problem with that. Good luck!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
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Apr 26, 2013 - 10:02pm PT
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Yes, I've been there. I have much sympathy.
I dragged the whole family to the hospital at 3 am. OH, the pain.
The only pain that exceeded that was my broken shoulder from this year.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 26, 2013 - 10:29pm PT
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I knew a Vegas nephrologist who referred to April - June as "stone season".
Lots of people dehydrate as things get hot.
(He died of a spider bite though!)
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Apr 26, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
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I was 34 for the first one of three. Biggest 10mm. All passed.
Can't tell until they analyze the constituents, but mine were due to repeatedly getting dehydrated.
EDIT:
First was at 36.
Second at 53 - 5.0mm calculus ureter, 7.0 mm calculus kidney.
Last:
IMPRESSION:
1. 15 mm nonobstructing stone within the lower pole of the left
kidney
All analyses have found the stones to be calcium oxalate.
If it doesn't pass, there are non-surgical/medical means of "treating" them, which is what I did in the case of the last one. Two doctors tell me it can't possibly have worked, yet the second scan revealed nothing. So either the first scan was in error or ...
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Apr 26, 2013 - 11:44pm PT
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I have one at 4mm and my urologist warned me to stay hydrated. None of these long waterless days in full sun, for Heaven's sake. We found it on a CT scan. It also turns out I have dual piping out of my kidneys... rare but not unheard of. How fun.
I remember as a kid, my Dad had a bad attack of a kidney stone that started to move. He was rolling and groaning terribly on the family couch. I was all alone with him and about 6 years old. I was terrified. Dean, it was clearly about all the man could take. I do sympathize. Fortunately aside from the pain, the ailment is not completely deadly.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 27, 2013 - 12:14am PT
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Dean,
Hoa Mon, so sorry for your pain. Praying.
Dee ee, when did you break your shoulder and how? Wonder if it was the same shoulder you threw out in JTree a millineum ago when we were playing Haki Sak? It got dislocated and you were on the ground and Dan yanked it back in. Jess wondering if the old injury had to do with your latest one.
Cheers and Blessings to you and Family, lynnie
PS, are you doing the Amjen Tour Mother's Day Weekend. Nomads is hosting a booth on Grand Ave. in Escondio. I will be there or at our store two blocks away. ANYONE from the Taco stop by and I'll treat you to something.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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Apr 27, 2013 - 01:44am PT
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going downstairs to get some water
omg
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Gene
climber
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Apr 27, 2013 - 01:52am PT
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I passed one that felt the size of Columbia Boulder. It was about 15 years ago and I was in Dusy Basin. A friend who was up there last year tells me that on a calm night you can still hear the echo of my screaming.....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Apr 27, 2013 - 01:57am PT
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I haven't had one thanks to all the beer I've been drinking.
Seriously, many doctors say beer helps both, preventing and dissolving kidney stones (at least in Poland).
This is why I drink copious amounts of beer. It's for medical reasons. Woo-hoo!
6mm, Dean? Holy!!!! heal up, bro. Piss that thing out. Somehow....
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BruceAnderson
Social climber
Los Angeles currently St. Antonin, France
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Apr 27, 2013 - 02:12am PT
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Just had my first one about two months ago. Screaming and writhing in pain for two hours. When I got to the doc's and he jabbed me with some morphine I literally wept.
I have a relative who's a doctor and his advice-
A six pack and a pogo stick!!!!
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Apr 27, 2013 - 02:12am PT
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Been there too, to many times.
I feel for you, and like healyje i keep a drug kit with me. I'm often times out in the middle of nowhere and need to take care of myself.
The last 4 I've delt with on my own, but shoot I sure as sh#t wish I was could have been in the ER with a morphine drip.
I remember I had just reached the summit of the Grand after climbing the Exum with my brother-in-law and his wife when I felt the pain coming on. At the time I had only 1 or 2 previous episodes so I wasn't too sure if it was a stone or not. Man they were freaked, but I just lay there for awhile until I could move and then told them I'd see them at the bottom and booked outa there at as fast a pace as I've ever done.
I have a little collection now of them.
Feels like a bowling ball with spikes squeezing through your gut when it's happening, and I can time the contractions down to the minute. Usually 10 mins of pain, 5-15 mins of reprieve.
I was so disappointed when I saw the first one, it was so small i could barely see the thing.
Drinking plenty of water is about the best you can do.
Though the tarter remedy sounds like it might be worth trying. Thanks for the info.
Cheers
Edit, hah, hah TT you called that!
1 more month brotha!!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 27, 2013 - 11:00am PT
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I saw one bigger than a softball.
(the vet took it out of a mule)
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otisdog
Big Wall climber
Sierra Madre & McGee Creek, Ca.
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Apr 27, 2013 - 11:39am PT
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Don't you mean centimeter?
You'd be able to see a 6 mm stone progressing down your Johnson!
Yeah, they are a lot of fun...my doctor gave me a screen to pee through, with the hopes of catching the stone. He was delighted when we captured what looked like a grain of sand. Calcium...from my habit of eating 500 mg. orange flavored vitamin C's...
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