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Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 26, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Why did you need to remove it and spray about it on the internet?

For attention, duh.


It is either a great prank/troll, or a pretty foolish action. If Bachar himself drew the original and it became part of that boulder/problem, why f*#k with it? Aside from getting attention on internet of course....

RyanD

climber
Squamish
Apr 26, 2013 - 05:00pm PT
Haha tough crowd.
NA_Kid

Big Wall climber
The Bear State
Apr 26, 2013 - 05:26pm PT
That sucks. Its not like the Columbia Boulder is way out in the middle of the woods, it is smack dab in the middle of Camp 4. A trademark of Yosemite Bouldering. The "Bolt" looked way better than that polished stone bench sitting under the boulder.

Why just erase the Bolt? Why not clean the chalk off of all the other holds? It's the same stuff isn't it?

Baggins

Boulder climber
Apr 26, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
But u just erased some history, that my boy JB did

Prolly not the first time this has happened...
willm

Social climber
Oakland
Apr 26, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
The bolt was redrawn. If you're upset about what James did, the best thing to do might be to pretend it never happened and deprive him of the attention.
Dapper Dan

Trad climber
Menlo Park
Apr 26, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
Although this latest article might not be the best example, I think James is an excellent writer , and I really enjoy reading his blog . I also have a tremendous respect for the effort and dedication he put into his recovery after his crater in Jtree.

As for the bolt , who cares , seems like it is here to stay no matter what James does... get over it .
James

climber
My twin brother's laundry room
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 26, 2013 - 05:38pm PT
Tough crowd.

Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 26, 2013 - 06:05pm PT
but you can never take back what u destroyed.

+1.

Dude, it was drawn by Bachar. Even though it can be chalked up again and again by whoever, WHY THE F*#K WOULD YOU ERASE A LINK TO A HISTORIC CLIMBER (that is by now dead)? Yes, it could be drawn again, but if it isn't by original author, it is irrelevant now. Might as well draw a big penis on it. How much do most people care about looking at a fake Mona Lisa?

Everyone have opinions, but actions are actions. You f*#ked something up for everyone else, in a way that can't be fixed. (if it isn't a troll, which I hope it is!)
adventurous one

Trad climber
Truckee Ca.
Apr 26, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
Sorry James, but that was a true lapse of judgement.

I'm sure your motives to remove this made sense to you, but in this case it was misguided imo. Maybe you have spent way to much time in Camp 4 getting jaded to "the scene" and the constant inflow of new climbers? Best if you had conferred with those that have been around Camp 4 much longer than you. Many of us, (Whom don't make it to The Valley as much any more) still smile when passing that lightning bolt, reflecting on the years and appreciating the historical symbol of what it meant for our era.

Rock climbing, as a sport, may not be around in a hundred or a thousand years. However, that lightning bolt hopefully will live on as a symbol of those who were exploring the envelope of what was possible, at the time, in our era.

Reading that blog reminded me of my feelings of hearing of the Taliban blowing up the monumental Buddas of Bamiyan in 2001; A piece of history needlessly destroyed.


Edit: Can anyone confirm that the original was removed, and not a troll from someone with nothing better to do?? Seems awfully strange that someone would bother to write an account of this.




pelut espania

Big Wall climber
Espania
Apr 26, 2013 - 06:17pm PT
Hola mi Americano Dogs! I too left my marko in the Nationals Park and you stupid Americanos erased my art! Eat my chorizo you American dogs and look to my art and A6 with art at base masterpieces are not the graffiti of my people but art. My art is big and your chalk art is on a boulder! Ha! You dogs! Viva Espania!
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Apr 26, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
Relic

Social climber
Vancouver, BC
Apr 26, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
At a boy...




Ya goof.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Apr 26, 2013 - 06:32pm PT
Callin' troll on the whole deal - blog and thread.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Apr 26, 2013 - 06:58pm PT
James, you seem like a decent guy. That being said, I believe the bolt is one piece of street art that should have remained. I never did the thing, so I have no laurels to rest on, just my impression. I mean JB his-own-self drew the thing, and it's only chalk.

Really curious about the motivation here, to out trad the purists?

What other purist things have you done that warrant such an act on your part?

Good luck keeping it off there....


And on a lighter note: How did everything become a "rig" to be "sent?"
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 26, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
Classic Coz! Thanks for making me smile. I'm sure James knew it would be put back and it will be there for the foreseeable future.

"Not sure why Dean, my friend is being nice to u, or sucking up...

But u just erased some history, that my boy JB did, I don't care who you think you are.

Basically you're a dork, and a fool, and should apologize to the world wide climbing community.

Your action seem attention grabbing... Maybe Mommy wasn't too nice to you, but you can never take back what u destroyed."

StevenStrong

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 26, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
I would think, at minimum, a person would want to be able to successfully do the problem before contemplating messing with the bolt image. Especially one that people obviously hold as a strong symbol of history in the Valley.

Steve
Sir loin of leisure...

Trad climber
I'm from Idaho..bitch
Apr 26, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
lucky for you i dont beat up retards...ive drawn a line there
Adamame

climber
Santa Cruz
Apr 26, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
Whats the big deal here? That problem is kinda ugly anyways. And if you need to have the lightning bolt there to show where the problem is then I don;t know what to say. The bolt is just inflating your ego if it has to be there in the photo of you attempting it. Despite being in the middle of a campground It think we need to strive to stop leaving such eyesores. I'd rather see lichen and rock in its place.

Coz, Bachar's original chalk is long gone at this point. So whats the difference.

I respect James as he thinks out of the box.
Sir loin of leisure...

Trad climber
I'm from Idaho..bitch
Apr 26, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
drag me out of my reclusive bliss ...for some ..wow people are stupid..all you people who support lumen boys efforts are straight up dip shits..
Synchronicity

Trad climber
British Columbia, Canada
Apr 26, 2013 - 09:29pm PT
Not that I've ever climbed the thing, or stood at the base of it but I feel inclined to chime in and say (respectively) that I don't think your actions were right here.

It is no one persons place to decide what is right and wrong and what should or should not be removed. If it was your boulder problem and people were drawing sh#t on it well then you might have a case but there is history to that problem, and history to the bolt itself.

Add to that the connection to Bachar (RIP) and you should have known you would ruffle a few feathers.

I'm not going to call you names and threaten you, that's not my style but if this is true and not a troll, your actions seem rather disrespectful and saddening really.

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