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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
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Another question for u Dr f .
Then who was ur wing man :-)
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Why is Russ deleting posts?
Russ why are you deleting posts?
We live for the gut busting shizzle you churn out ... Just saying.
Of course I remember the hand as well. Dr. F is probably right in that he wasn't such a great wing man and we rarely saw him actually climb. Russ tended to be a "snapper magnet" as Mari once said; but I don't think he actually hung out with The Hand that much.
Long before I got out here to Colorado, I'm thinking early 80s, The Hand lived in a little shack at the mouth of Eldorado Canyon. Other than this reportage concerning his domicile, there's never been much about him in the local Boulder lore.
Not to say he never climbed; prolly loved it much as any who entered the community. Another lost soul in the end. The enlarged hand had to be a rough go.
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TwistedCrank
climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
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I remember him wanting 20 bucks to tell you where he left a 2 1/2 friend he bailed on - one of the original half sizers. He was leaving for LA the next day. It was Desperate Straights. I can't recall who ended up retrieving it. But I can't recall much of anything anymore anyway.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2013 - 01:01am PT
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Since all you faeries like to think this is a virtual campfire, my written words are now just whispers carried away on the smoke of combusting terminal bullsh#t.
ohh k! thanks anyway russ!
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Got it!
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2013 - 02:41pm PT
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Dr f thanks for not erasing ur sh#t. Just thought id started a good thread . Wanted the young talent to get to know their past stoney pointers. Russ maybe ill Buy some of ur star studded straps.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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The hand ---- That's funny ----- that dude hated me.
He would go around Stoney doing problems that had been getting done for years & rating them 4 grades harder than they were.
A stoney Point 10b would become 11b-c
I'd call him on it & he would turn red and blow up at me ---- I'd do the problem & say something like ---- Really man, I'm not sure that even makes 10b, might be 10a. Couple of times I know he wanted to hit me.
He finally got smart & stop trying to boulder with us, & than he became nice. We
would wave to each other & say hi, as we walk past each other.
Never ran into him climbing anywhere else.
He really was not a bad guy.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 07:18pm PT
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Thanks frumy. Ask David Katz he has never seen the hand climb..only hanging out.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
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bump for the hand!
greg allen hope u chime in one day!
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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That was a good question Tarbaby, I came late to this thread after Russ had removed all his input, but there were enough references and quotes that his footprints were fossilized in the thread, like a Parasaurolophus crossing some antediluvian salt marsh.
Perhaps the Fish has turned into an adult concerned about posterity and is pruning his online tidbits to control his legend? Ah well, we'll always have the various arms of the Mussy Nebula...
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snyd
Sport climber
Lexington, KY
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Since we are talking about characters on the scene...
"Karl with a K" has to be the oddest. The only guy I knew who was brave enough to partner up with him 1:1 was Shipley. Everyone else would go in a large group and even then it was dicey.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
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By Karl, do you mean the karl that could mantle really well & wore a handkerchief on his head & in the early 80's drove an orange 914 & went to school to be a psychologist or something & moved to Kansas.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Russ, I think you're talking about The Hand, he was a very talented artist. . .
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 9, 2013 - 01:57am PT
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russ wrote
May 8, 2013 - 08:50pm PT
Winkie.... uh.... no .... the Hand was a drooling crayola guy compared to Karl with a K, regardless of his prowess in the crayola realm.
Karl was flat out one of the best artists in an illustration/comic book type style I have ever seen. Really... and I was an art major. The dude could really draw and would make postcard sized art and sell them to sustain his Valley lifestyle. Damn, I wish I'd bought some of those, but of course I had zero money too.... 'tis a pity.
ur talking about Karl conklin right?
russ u said it best about greg allen with his glass's duct tape with pea coat.
i guess this is russ as a climber visionary..
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chez
Social climber
chicago ill
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Karl with a K.
He came to our campfire in the 80s and asked if he could put a big rock in our fire, which we obliged. Then chatted for a bit and then too the rock to his site and buried it, and placed his tent on it.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2013 - 01:00am PT
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russ wrote:
May 9, 2013 - 07:54am PT
ur talking about Karl conklin right?
No, another Karl.
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duncan
climber
London, UK
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May 10, 2013 - 03:42am PT
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I do remember Greg and was, like many others, amazed that he picked up a British accent after only a relatively short stint in the British Isles. Seemed like a decent bloke, but only knew him in passing.
I also remember Greg as a decent bloke and have a vague memory of climbing something on the Apron with him (definitely not Something On The Apron). There were a few Brits loitering in Tahoe and Yosemite at that time so perhaps the accent got a head start from us.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
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Dr f I wouldn't call Russ the fish a pussy. Although I do wonder..he did this deleting bullshit thing on the stoney thread. He posted a bad ass bachar photo then removed it. Very weird. Maybe he thinks of himself as a celebrity from la..
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
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dr F *Getting back to wing man, it wold only seem natural that yo and the Hand being roommates the north shore in the early 80s surrounded by hot hippie chicks, British accents, and hot tub parties as your earlier posts say make one come to this :-)
So give it up Dr F.
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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May 11, 2013 - 11:50am PT
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Dr. F, that's cause Charlie was way cooler then you ever dreamed you could be.
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