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Anastasia

climber
Home
May 10, 2013 - 05:06pm PT
Hey...

I bring my dog, I keep her usually tied up unless there are other free roaming dogs. She usually is right next to me. I agree that my dog should not be in your stuff, on your rope, etc. She should be only messing with my stuff. If she goes there... I take her away, I do apologies and make sure she can't do it again.

I ask people to speak up if they don't want her around, we "the dog and I" can go elsewhere. Plus work with me... I will work with you. If you ask in a kind manner, I will respond in kind, and I will correct things quickly. Cuss me out, throw rocks at us, etc. I'm not so willing or nice. Not because my dog has more rights than you, but because as a human I don't like being attacked and letting anyone bully me out. Now that makes me just want to stick it to you.

Again, I'm human...
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
May 10, 2013 - 05:43pm PT


"I bring my dog, I keep her usually tied up"...


Your Husband just emailed and said you meant him...

Not the dog...

;-)

Anastasia

climber
Home
May 10, 2013 - 09:45pm PT
LOL, actually he keeps me tied on a short leash. What do you think the kid is for? Giggling...

Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
May 17, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
Thought this article might be of interest.


Next week is National Dog Bite Prevention Week, and health care specialists, veterinarians and the insurance industry are trying to get out the word about reducing dog bite incidents this year.

In 2011, about 70 million dogs were living in U.S. households, according to the American Veterinary Medical Association, down from about 72 million in 2006. That means 36% of the population has canine companionship.

The downside to that statistic is the more than 4.7 million dog bites reported each year. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says 800,000 Americans seek medical attentional annually for dog bites. Of those injuries, nearly half require emergency room treatment. Dog bite rates are highest among children ages 5 to 9, and related fatalities average 16 a year.

Along with any physical and emotional damage, these incidents have financial costs. The Insurance Information Institute estimates that insurers paid out nearly $489 million in dog bite claims last year. Giant insurer State Farm says it dealt with 3,670 dog bite claims in 2012, paying out more than $108 million on them.

State Farm recently released a list of the top 10 states for dog bite claims in 2012:

State
Number of claims
Amount paid (est.)

1. California
451
$17.1 million

2. Illinois
337
$9.0 million

3. Texas
236
$4.3 million

4. Ohio
235
$5.0 million

5. Pennsylvania
165
$4.5 million

6. Michigan
151
$4.6 million

7. Indiana
148
$2.7 million

8. Florida
123
$7.1 million

9. Georgia
121
$3.3 million

10. New York
116
$6.4 million

Laws can vary regarding dog bites. Some states have what is known as the one free bite rule. That is, if a dog bites and injures someone -- and has never done so before -- the owner isn't liable for those injuries.

According to the Dog Bite Law website, the rationale behind the one-bite rule "was that domestic animals by definition were not injurious, and therefore liability could be predicated only on the defendant's knowledge that a particular animal had a propensity to behave in manner that was injurious to humans."

Most general liability provisions in a homeowners insurance policy will cover the owner for dog bites. However, some dogs can be excluded, according to San Diego law firm Laureti & Associates, if the dog "is a breed known to be, or (has) the propensity to be, dangerous."

State Farm says it doesn't refuse insurance based on the breed of dog a customer owns because "under the right circumstances, any dog might bite."
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
May 17, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
what an awesome way to make some extra cash for retirement! especially if it's one of those police dogs hangin out the winda.
McCfly

climber
May 17, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
Are we really back at this again. Clearly we can all find something a bit more creative to bitch about.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
May 17, 2013 - 06:47pm PT
"Are we really back at this again."

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1884456/Is-it-OK-to-bring-dogs-to-the-outdoor-climbing

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1438634/Perro-non-grata

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1165244/Dogs-at-the-crags

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1382971/dog-bites-at-the-crag

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1365462&msg=1365486#msg1365486

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1323672/Do-crag-dogs-always-stick-around

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1212213&msg=1212244#msg1212244

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/933262/pups-and-outdoors

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/486002/attn-dog-owners

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/485208/JTree-Leave-your-dog-at-home

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=461499&msg=461499#msg461499

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/273380/to-the-f-ker-with-the-dog-at-hemingway-today

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/271136/josh-and-dogs

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/77674/dogs-and-crags

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/38368/Dogs-Crags

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/27951/Dogs-at-the-Crags


Can't wait for the next one...
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
May 17, 2013 - 07:09pm PT
Ah yes-----eternal dualities.

Credit: internet


Yen/Yang
Dogs/No Dogs
Bolts/No bolts
drunk/sober (it is Friday night!)
breasts/no breasts
Republicans/Democrats


This thread is mainstream with much of what is discussed here.



kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
May 17, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
except you probably won't have any crazee women complaining about an anti pooch thread


I'm gunna git it fer that one! lol
Hard Rock

Trad climber
Montana
May 21, 2013 - 06:46am PT
You can trust my judgement bring my dogs to the crags. You are already trusting my judgement on my bolts and anchors. Can't speak for others.
thirsty

climber
May 21, 2013 - 09:33am PT
Tradman is from New England? Of course. Hope he stays there.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 21, 2013 - 09:41am PT
Can I bring my lamb to the crag? She doesn't bite nothin' but grass.
I know Fritz and most other Idahoans and Wyomians would approve.

Credit: Reilly
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 21, 2013 - 09:57am PT
I've seen well behaved dogs at the crag...and then I've seen the crazy, wild, stupid, annoying noisy dogs/and KIDS at the crag...the difference is the ADULTS who brought them...some know thier dogs and how they will act and others are just clueless...if you are clueless nothing can save us from you and your dog...if your intelligent and CARE about others enjoyment you already know if your dog will be a problem and will make the correct CHOICE!!!
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
May 21, 2013 - 10:04am PT
I'm gunna git it furItalic Text that one! lol


;D
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 21, 2013 - 10:37am PT
Thirsty. why exactly is it that you wish i never come west? Is it because I will be polite at your cliff, I will not bark at people, i will not piss on your pack, I will not leave a dog tied up at the base while I climb multi pitch all day. Perhaps it is because I am a free man, not in servitude to dogs. I have no problem with others being endentured servants to dogs but I do cherish my own freedom;)
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 25, 2013 - 03:35pm PT
Credit: philo
Credit: philo
Credit: philo
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 25, 2013 - 03:49pm PT
Not only do dogs enslave their humans but they steal all the hot chicks.
McCfly

climber
May 25, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
You might want to think about that Trad ;)
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 25, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
Just the facts baby ;)
McCfly

climber
May 25, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
Hmmm let me see find any dog related thread and be a dick. Musta had another bad day. You put off such great energy trad....

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