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Stoney007247

Trad climber
Cordelia
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 23, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
I was climbing at the Auburn Quarry on Saturday and Sunday this past weekend. I must say that place has a lot of potential as soon as the rock quality improves and the loose rock is cleared from the walls.

Saturday was a great day, but when I arrived Sunday a Subaru pulls right up to the Memorial rock and 7 people and their dog get out. I really didnít care about the dog. If they are on a leash or VERY well mannered itís not a big deal. Well, there were a lot of Canadian geese there and that is exactly where the dog went straight to. As the owner was climbing and not watching his dog it found the nest of the geese and proceeded to maul and kill 4 geese goslings in a nest and basically leave bird parts all over the place. I was so pissed at this jacka$$ I was seeing red. When I confronted him he just told me it was no big deal.

I really didnít know what to do at the time. The guy refused to leave and just chained his dog up to a tree in the sun as he and his partner flailed on the multipitch in the back wall for like 3 hours for just 2 pitches. What would be the right thing to do at the time? Seeing this place is new and not fully set up yet I would hate to see a$$holes like this ruin it for the rest of us. Really, if you canít watch or control your dog leave it at home!

Comments on what I should have done at the time would be nice. I did look for a ranger, but none were to be found the entire day.

Thanks,

Stoney
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Apr 23, 2013 - 03:37pm PT

One of my FAVORITE subjects!!!...


Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!...




EDITED:


LEAVE THE DOGS AT HOME!!!...


;-)

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
Apr 23, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
wow, total jackwagon dog owner move

locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Apr 23, 2013 - 03:41pm PT

Other than TRYING to "take the law into your own hands" there probably wasn't really MUCH else you could do, that you didn't do...

You could have gotten in a fight over it...(What GOOD would that have done???)...

You could have left... (But you wanted to CLIMB)...

I think you did what you could...




EDITED:


Another option...

You could have THANKED him for the GOOSE dinner???...

Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 23, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
You can drive up to that crag?
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 23, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
It's a state park. Take down information and call ranger.
Park Office (530) 885-4527

or call 911

They are very responsive to this sort of thing.
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 23, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
"You can drive up to that crag?"

No you cannot. They were probably the volunteers from CRAGS.......
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 23, 2013 - 03:58pm PT
Unfortunately that kind of behavior can potentially affect everyone. In the minds of the park officials who may not be overjoyed at having climbers in the midst of their park where they are responsible for ensuring the resource is protevted and all people get along, this type of incident can lead to restrictions and closures.

Speak up - heck yes. I'd rather have one climber pissed at me than have one less crag to climb at.
Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Apr 23, 2013 - 03:58pm PT
The owner sounds petty aloof. The dog though, must have been embarrassed.

It had egg on it's face.
Stoney007247

Trad climber
Cordelia
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 23, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
Thanks for the number, Labrat. I will have it for next time. All I could think of doing was cracking him in his jaw. But, that wouldn't have solved anything.

You're right Locker! Leave your dogs at home!
Norwegian

Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
Apr 23, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
me?
i would have (after moving my vehicle so's no
traceable record existed of my existence)
mauled the f*#king dog to death and then spread it's
limbs on and around the glossy pack of it's owner.

evolutionary privilege can be created, but not destroyed.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Apr 23, 2013 - 04:06pm PT
Yep, I agree, turn them in . . .

My dog would be lucky to survive such an incident . . .
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 23, 2013 - 04:08pm PT
I would have meekly complained and then posted about it later.

This drive-up access, now that would have been awesome.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Apr 23, 2013 - 04:09pm PT


Sort of a THREAD DRIFT:

Some years back these people approached our group with their dog and ASKED if ANYONE minded the pooch being present...

I IMMEDIATELY spoke up and said, "Hell yes, I mind" (the dog was actually taking a sh!t real close to our stuff while we were talking but no one knew it at the time)...

The people were taken back some and obviously didn't expect that answer...

I elaborated with, "And look at your fuking dog now over there taking a sh!t near our stuff"...

They LEFT the area...

QUICKLY...(EDITED: To their credit, they took the dogsh!t with them)...





Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 23, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
I would have ripped your baby limb from limb, took a crap on it, and then flung it at you while you climbed if you so much as sneered at my dog.

I would have... that's an awesome game!
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 23, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
The reason I know they respond quickly to this type of thing is below.

I walked with two dogs on the trail underneath the Foresthill bridge to Lake Clementine a week or so ago. The rangers were questioning me and my girlfriend if we had seen people with three pit bull type dogs that were threatening people.

Add killing wildlife and they will be all over it!
Erik
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Apr 23, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
Yes most likely a Crags volunteer since they were able to drive up. How LAME!

You should contact Crags and let them know what happened: http://norcalcrags.org/contact/

Hopefully they will revoke these folks volunteer status. If they were not volunteers Crags will want to know about someone else driving in anyway.

It's actually good you didn't find a ranger because this would have given all climbers (and responsible dog owners) a bad name. Better for Crags to settle this internally.

You don't just let your dog run unleashed.
You don't climb multi-pitch and leave your dog unattended.

EDIT TO ADD:

I wouldn't call the rangers unless the people were being threatening to me. As mentioned it will bring a bad light and access for all climbers could be threatened. Thanks idiots for letting your dog run wild.

A couple more points:

Canadian Geese are an invasive species. They push out native species and overpopulate. As a matter of fact I wish my dog would chase the damn things away from my pond so we'd get more ducks, egrets, herons, etc. They sh#t everywhere and honk and fight for territory. Maybe I should invite that dog to my house. Canadian Geese caused the Miracle on the Hudson plane crash and many others.

It's the owners fault, not the dogs. The dog was doing what he thinks he is supposed to. Hunt to feed the pack. It's the owner who should keep his dog under control. All you'd have to do is break a few of the owners fingers and then he couldn't climb, problem solved.

As far as what to do, talk to the owner first like you did. Then talk to any women in his group if possible. They'll talk some sense into him later. Not to much you can do and it's not worth fighting over. You could also eat lunch below them and talk loudly about what an idiot he is and how karma will probably cause him to fall and get hurt.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Apr 23, 2013 - 04:12pm PT


"I would rip your baby limb from limb, take a crap on it, and then fling it at you"...

LMAO!!!...

Oddly FUNNY as hell!!!...
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 23, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
I changed tenses, I hope it's still funny, Locker!
Norwegian

Trad climber
the tip of god's middle finger
Apr 23, 2013 - 04:15pm PT
jebus!
who's baby?
dismembered?
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