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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 15, 2013 - 07:36pm PT
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BUT WE DAMN WELL SHOULD NOT CONDEMN A WHOLE ARTIFICIAL CONSTRUCT OF SOME GROUP OF PEOPLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF ONE OR A FEW.
a whole lot of people will anyway
immediate, emotional, knee jerk reaction
because it feels good
feels righteous
last time we did it, it cost us three trillion dollars and 4000 US Armed Forces dead
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 15, 2013 - 07:38pm PT
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No we will never be able to stop a dedicated intelligent individual of the most dangerous race of beings in the known universe from attacking like this.
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BobLoblaw
climber
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Apr 15, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
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Ron - We're not going to stop such people. There will always be a small percentage of crazy people who don't value life and feel the need to make a statement.
By my calculation, this brings the grand total of terrorist-related deaths in the U.S. in the past 10+ years to...2. How many people have died by gunfire from white Americans during that time (in schools, movie theaters, etc.)? How are we going to stop those people? Are terrorist bombs really the biggest threat? (This is, of course, assuming this even was a foreign terrorist attack...)
The Middle East is not "FULL" of these people. Have you ever been there? Of course you haven't. I have, and I have American friends who have lived there for years, and 99% of the people you encounter are friendly and caring. Your statement is the equivalent of going to a neo-Nazi rally here in the U.S. and then proclaiming "American is FULL of skinhead racists!" It makes you look like even more of an ignorant bigot than you normally do. Congratulations.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Apr 15, 2013 - 07:49pm PT
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'MURICA!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 15, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
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SO a man thinks to himself those folks over there might attack.. so he nukes them
Then he figures someone over there might attack.. so he nukes them
Eventually he nukes everyone.. cause hey.. they might attack
Then he looks at himself and says.. jeez I should't smoke a cigarette or drink a beer or eat McDonalds or Climbe a rock
So he shoots himself
Another guy just says
Life is good and I like most of the people I meet. Gotta die someday so no sense worrying about that.. what can I do to make life better while I'm here?
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Gene
climber
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Apr 15, 2013 - 07:54pm PT
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how are we going to stop such people?
We can solve this problem with mandatory racial/ethnic/religious/mental/DNA/etc. profiling and government monitoring of all personal activities of the entire world population. Problem solved. I think Homeland Security is working on an ap for this. I can’t wait for the whole family to get the GPS and biometric chips implanted. I’ll feel much safer. How 'bout you?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Apr 15, 2013 - 07:55pm PT
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Ron - We're not going to stop such people. There will always be a small percentage of crazy people who don't value life and feel the need to make a statement.
By my calculation, this brings the grand total of terrorist-related deaths in the U.S. in the past 10+ years to...2. How many people have died by gunfire from white Americans during that time (in schools, movie theaters, etc.)? How are we going to stop those people? Are terrorist bombs really the biggest threat? (This is, of course, assuming this even was a foreign terrorist attack...)
The Middle East is not "FULL" of these people. Have you ever been there? Of course you haven't. I have, and I have American friends who have lived there for years, and 99% of the people you encounter are friendly and caring. Your statement is the equivalent of going to a neo-Nazi rally here in the U.S. and then proclaiming "American is FULL of skinhead racists!" It makes you look like even more of an ignorant bigot than you normally do. Congratulations.
only 2 terrorist related deaths in the US in the past 10 years
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 15, 2013 - 07:56pm PT
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We did meet once and really honestly.. I do like you Ron. Like many folks today.. this crap has me venting too.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:00pm PT
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Bobleblob...Just because some men suffer from MPB doesn't give you the right to categorize us as skin-head racists...RJ
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:06pm PT
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Dulferwhat... jeez we just called it the crotchburner ... freaking elitist!
Hey wanna go climb some stuff Rick found outside Fernley?
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:08pm PT
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3 deaths now.
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hillrat
Trad climber
reno, nv
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
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I wouldn't mind climbing some time.
Best wishes to the victims, as with all such tragedies.
Quit f-ing guessing as to whodunnit. Time will tell.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:12pm PT
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Seems like North Korea recently declared war on us. Just saying.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
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only 2 terrorist related deaths in the US in the past 10 years
Yeah well go back a couple more years and all of a sudden its thousands. Go back to Oklahoma City and its even more. I also see you don't consider the Ft Hood shootings to be terrorism. "Allah Akbar!!!!" Blam blam blam blam...
In the case of this mess in Boston, the best thing would be for everyone to unite on the theme that it is a terrible thing and not to speculate, throwing accusations in all directions, until the facts come in.
Conservative media are blaming the ME, at the same time liberal media are speculating that it is a right wing government hating group. Who does this BS from either side serve? No one.
Jeez, there are even conspiracy theory folks on facebook saying that the Boston PD did it accidentally as they were using the event as a training exercise in bomb squad work.
None of this idiotic speculation contributes anything.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:28pm PT
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Hey, who you calling an idiot? Speculation is about as natural as apple pie. :>) Give me freedom to speculate or give me death. Notice I'm not speculating out loud except for mentioning the North Koreans.
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shady
Trad climber
hasbeen
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:39pm PT
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As a participant in an unpopular war a few decades ago, I whole heartedly agree.
+1 Tami.
I already oppose our next war.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:43pm PT
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Give me freedom to speculate or give me death.
Dan, you and me speculating is natural. The "news" media speculating is irresponsible. And the politicians will be next.
I always enjoy your sense of humor though...
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:44pm PT
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Oh, the media......nuff said. :>)
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kennyt
climber
Woodfords,California
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:46pm PT
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Obama did not use the word terrorist in addressing this crime
He'll get ripped fer that one
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
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Apr 15, 2013 - 08:47pm PT
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He'll get ripped fer that one
Yeah, they'll take his birth certificate away!
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