The next John Gill!

No one knows who you are or where you came from you are a fraud or a troll.

I love trolling the guy, he's too easy, wait for it.....

I was trolling and kidding

Never knew you to have a girlfriend just saying...

Bill has never been seen with a women in the 30 years I've known the guy, and now he wants me to apologize to Simon.

So it's an absolute no no to do this especially without absolute proof and what to speak of trolling or making a joke about it ......

Claiming that an idiotic, previously made statement was trolling all-along is always an interesting strategy. Interesting, in that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

I'm no expert but I work with a lot of youngsters as a elementary PE teacher and I got to say in response a kid with that kind of build is pretty unusual. The article (link posted earlier) mentions his dad being like that as a kid and coaching the little dude now, so maybe it's a combination of genes and the workout. But for a youngster to be developing that much that early...well stranger things are out there I guess.

And a coward for erasing all your posts and not apologizing.

What is the right thing to do?

I'll go to the fed's

Well that may be all fine and dandy, butt what about my mini-muscle man?

"First of all he is an eastern-euro and I have no context for understanding the culture in which the child is raised other then that of what western media has fed me through it's propaganda."

I look forward to the day that most Americans can speak from this perspective.

Its the same as those WEIRD beauty contests where lil three to five year olds are dresses in adult manners, painted up with cosmetics and paraded on stage.

he's married to a beautiful woman with two beautiful daughters

Apr 11, 2013 - 09:50am PT
I apologize to the climbing community for my horrible behavior towards Simon.

I was trolling in very bad taste, and I made a mistake.

Simon is not a Pedophile, I surely didn't mean for it to get so out of control. I thought the post was weird however, but if the community doesn't OK, I stand corrected.

Again, I blew it, thought it was funny and no I had no problem from my childhood, LOL...

I deleted my post to try and undo, my mistake.

In conclusion, Simon, I'm truly sorry, and a bit ashamed at the moment.

Small children will go along with that intense training until they develop their own volition. For the most part, these kids are not doing this stuff past their teen years - having had it shoved down their throats too early.

and Im the Prince of Wales...

How does a young boy of five years old get so damn strong anyway?
We were thinking he's like Cirque du Soleil material. There is a whole culture of Europeans that grow up doing just amazing stuff like this kid.

Can anybody comment on his muscle development?
My wife was thinking he must be on steroids and that to me seems a little bit much.

Anybody know about child physiology?
Can any little kid get this bricked if they do the right stuff?

Excerpt from Br. J. Sports Med., Volume 24, No. 4

"The skeletal system is extremely plastic in children and shows pronounced adaptive changes to intensive sports training. Long-term effects on bone of participating in intensive training during the period of low growth and development are still obscure. Low intensity training can stimulate bone length and high intensity training may inhibit it."

This little boy has to be engaging in high intensity training, and lots of it, no?
What are the transferable implications for little kids really getting after it in climbing gyms?

the implications are that there are going to be more and more climbers that basically blow current standards out of the water

Very funny! No doubt. I wasn't employing some disingenuous bitter trad guy attitude about the gyms; I was speaking to the intensity.

This little boy has to be engaging in high intensity training, and lots of it, no?

the kid trains 3 hours a day, 5 days a week.

My gut says it's not a good idea to use up all that green stick bone and cartilage early

There's still an elephant in the room and back lever push ups at sub kindergarten age should ring some LOUD alarm bells about what is media admirable VS what is best for a child.

Maybe I'm wrong but I say the grades are more or less maxed out. Sure there will be a push of a letter grade or a plus or minus here and there but I reckon it's pretty much done. The human body can only do so much-- look at pro pitchers, a group of people highly motivated and highly paid to throw a ball fast. No one really questions the fact that it's pretty much impossible for a human to throw a baseball more than around a hundred miles an hour. Climbing must have similar limitations, regardless of age and weight.

it's hard for me, not having any expertise regarding childhood development nor knowledge of his day to day life, to absolutely rule out that he isn't the athletic equivalent of a five year old chess or linguistic prodigy.with very roughly about 70 million 5 year old males in the world there are bound to be some natural freaks who push our conception of what is spontaneously possible...

Can anybody comment on his muscle development?
My wife was thinking he must be on steroids and that to me seems a little bit much.
Anybody know about child physiology?
Can any little kid get this bricked if they do the right stuff?

Most 5.13's have easier cruxes than the problems Gill was doing - most 5.14's, too. No routes (yet) primarily consist of moves that hard - that would be a quantum leap, but no one's going to make it anytime soon - it would be like doing 20-rep sets with the current world-record dead lift.

I can't wait to get them both over to Tami's circus camp as that looks like alot of fun.