Echo Cliffs Vandalism Easter Weekend


Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
Messages 41 - 51 of total 51 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 8, 2013 - 12:09pm PT
I'm guessing any ranger who caught someone spray painting rocks wouldn't just walk on by and give them a thumbs-up.

Monday morning humor interlude.

An old friend was a ranger in Glacier NP BITD. It was past Labor Day so he
figured he had weathered another summer's worth of azzholes and idjits. He
was taking a nice cruise up and over Going To The Sun Pass. He gets to the
crest of the pass and sees a family outside their car. Thinking they might
need help he slows down. Now he needs help, with his blood pressure, when
he sees they are spray-painting the road cut! He gets out and confronts the

"What the hell do you think you're doing?"

With a smarmy sneer the dad answers, "What does it look like we're doing?"


The azzhole looks around him and says, "I don't see any sign saying I can't."

My buddy looks around and says, patting his .38, "I don't see any sign saying
I can't blow your fool head off, either."

After explaining the serious trouble the idjit was in my buddy decided to
cut them some slack and himself a bunch of paperwork. He just happened to
have a bunch of tools in his truck including a number of wire brushes. As
I recall the clean-up took a good three or four hours.

JTM - keep up the good fight!

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Apr 8, 2013 - 12:12pm PT
Skip.... Thank you for cleaning up.

I was there yesterday, didn't notice a thing... cause you had finished up.

The meetup was there... but they were OK and well behaved and were climbing the usual climbs, I did stroll through after they left and picked up some litter.... mostly banana and orange peals.

ECHO was extra beautiful cause of all the flowers blooming and it was dead calm while everyplace else was having the "wind episode" .

So thanks again for cleaning up.

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
Do you think any of the gym owners will part with any of their profit to pay for cleaning up this mess?

Chaz, wouldn't that be like asking gun shops or manufacturers to pay for all the gun related deaths in their area? Come on, where is all that "personal responsibility" the right wingers are always talking about?

Apr 8, 2013 - 12:18pm PT

Social climber
Apr 8, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
My wife is a rock star.

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Apr 8, 2013 - 12:41pm PT
Thanks, JTM. That's awesome.

Fools and paint is nothing new, unfortunately. Up on Strawberry Peak, on the route to the third class from Josephine Saddle, somebody spray painted purple arrows on the route so people wouldn't get lost. The use trail is 2 feet wide, on the right side is a six foot high impenetrable wall of buckthorn, on the left is a six foot high impenetrable wall of manazanita.

Apr 8, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
Thanks Skip

Credit: Tork


Trad climber
Ventura, CA
Apr 8, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
I was just down there Saturday and didn't notice any of the said graffiti. Could be that I wasn't looking for it, but if it was there, it wasn't obvious. In regards to the clean up, anyone have anything I can put up at my gym (Vertical Heaven) to get some of us Ventura climbers out there to lend a hand.

Sport climber
Los Angeles, CA
Apr 8, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
A friend of mine sent me a PDF flyer for the echo clean up on 5/11 but I couldn't find mention of it on the SCMA website. Here's a link to the PDF flyer from my google docs.


Jim Henson's Basement
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 07:59pm PT
Well, looks like we probably won't find the culprit. My internet sleuthing and slew of e-mails came up with nothing. Could have been anyone. BTW- So. Cal Climbers didn't have any meet-ups that weekend to they are innocent.

Like I said.. now we're back to blaming Gym climbers and Euros

David mentioned the cleanup day on May 11th. We'll get a separate thread going for that.

@BASE: If you haven't been to Echo.. hauling a generator and power-washer in there would be very difficult. It's a long hike with a very steep section at the end to get down to the cliffs.

@Reilly: Funny story LOL. I get kinda nutso with litterbugs. Good thing I don't have a gun to threaten them with.

@Willy: Giant orange arrows were definitely "obvious". You may have hiked in after I'd already removed them, or you may need to get your eyes checked for color blindness. ;)


Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
Sep 21, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
Levy.....sorry for the late (untimely) response, but the Lookout hasn't been closed, just the southern-most formation that overlooks Yerba Buena Road. Ranger Herbaugh claimed that a rock dropped from the top would hit the center line of the road. I don't believe the face is that overhung, but the NPS is seriously concerned about their liability, so that formation ONLY has been posted, NOT the Lookout as a whole. A local climber named Russell established the routes on the south face of that formation and the NPS agreed to allow him to send the routes and then he agreed to pull the bolts and anchors.
As for the May 11th Echo Cliffs Cleanup (sponsored by the NPS & SCMA) ....that stewardship event was cancelled due to the Camarillo Springs fire. Again, the NPS was concerned about liability, as the fire was not fully contained prior to the May 11 scheduled event, so the NPS pulled the plug.
Signage bolted to the SOUTHERN-MOST formation at the Lookout. <br/>
Only t...
Signage bolted to the SOUTHERN-MOST formation at the Lookout.
Only the southern-most formation (just uphill from Yerba Buena Road is closed to climbing.
Credit: rurprider
While the sign may indicate that the Lookout is closed, it only applies to the southern-most formation, which this sign is affixed to.
Messages 41 - 51 of total 51 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
Our Guidebooks
Check 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks

Try a free sample topo!

SuperTopo on the Web

Recent Route Beta
Recent Gear Reviews