Echo Cliffs Vandalism Easter Weekend

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BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Apr 6, 2013 - 10:28pm PT
We have had some problems with graffiti at one of our climbing areas. It was local tweaker kids.

This was full on spray paint on granite. I talked to a buddy and he said that they had good luck with a power washer hauled in there with a generator.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 7, 2013 - 08:08am PT
Hedge...good point about bolts and chalk but i think that bolts are hard to see for the non-climber...Chalk may be easier to see but in the big picture they have low visual impact...IMHO...
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Apr 7, 2013 - 08:17am PT
Thanks, JTM
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 7, 2013 - 08:17am PT
I am certain there are many that are opposed to slamming metal bolts and hangers on to pristine rock...

You've been to Echo right? Bolts are actually an aesthetic high point, lol.
cali kat

climber
CA
Apr 8, 2013 - 08:46am PT
This reminds me of when I was at Malibu Creek and saw a trail of goldfish crackers going all the way through the park. Picked up as many as I could....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 8, 2013 - 09:09am PT
I'm guessing any ranger who caught someone spray painting rocks wouldn't just walk on by and give them a thumbs-up.

Monday morning humor interlude.

An old friend was a ranger in Glacier NP BITD. It was past Labor Day so he
figured he had weathered another summer's worth of azzholes and idjits. He
was taking a nice cruise up and over Going To The Sun Pass. He gets to the
crest of the pass and sees a family outside their car. Thinking they might
need help he slows down. Now he needs help, with his blood pressure, when
he sees they are spray-painting the road cut! He gets out and confronts the
father.

"What the hell do you think you're doing?"

With a smarmy sneer the dad answers, "What does it look like we're doing?"

"THIS IS A NATIONAL PARK, YOU CAN'T DO THAT!"

The azzhole looks around him and says, "I don't see any sign saying I can't."

My buddy looks around and says, patting his .38, "I don't see any sign saying
I can't blow your fool head off, either."

After explaining the serious trouble the idjit was in my buddy decided to
cut them some slack and himself a bunch of paperwork. He just happened to
have a bunch of tools in his truck including a number of wire brushes. As
I recall the clean-up took a good three or four hours.

JTM - keep up the good fight!
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Apr 8, 2013 - 09:12am PT
Skip.... Thank you for cleaning up.

I was there yesterday, didn't notice a thing... cause you had finished up.

The meetup was there... but they were OK and well behaved and were climbing the usual climbs, I did stroll through after they left and picked up some litter.... mostly banana and orange peals.

ECHO was extra beautiful cause of all the flowers blooming and it was dead calm while everyplace else was having the "wind episode" .

So thanks again for cleaning up.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2013 - 09:17am PT
Do you think any of the gym owners will part with any of their profit to pay for cleaning up this mess?

Chaz, wouldn't that be like asking gun shops or manufacturers to pay for all the gun related deaths in their area? Come on, where is all that "personal responsibility" the right wingers are always talking about?
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 8, 2013 - 09:18am PT
DOH..
MisterE

Social climber
Apr 8, 2013 - 09:31am PT
My wife is a rock star.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Apr 8, 2013 - 09:41am PT
Thanks, JTM. That's awesome.

Fools and paint is nothing new, unfortunately. Up on Strawberry Peak, on the route to the third class from Josephine Saddle, somebody spray painted purple arrows on the route so people wouldn't get lost. The use trail is 2 feet wide, on the right side is a six foot high impenetrable wall of buckthorn, on the left is a six foot high impenetrable wall of manazanita.
Tork

climber
Yosemite
Apr 8, 2013 - 09:45am PT
Thanks Skip

Grampians
Credit: Tork

willybeamin

Trad climber
Ventura, CA
Apr 8, 2013 - 10:00am PT
I was just down there Saturday and didn't notice any of the said graffiti. Could be that I wasn't looking for it, but if it was there, it wasn't obvious. In regards to the clean up, anyone have anything I can put up at my gym (Vertical Heaven) to get some of us Ventura climbers out there to lend a hand.
dpotter05

Sport climber
Los Angeles, CA
Apr 8, 2013 - 01:17pm PT
A friend of mine sent me a PDF flyer for the echo clean up on 5/11 but I couldn't find mention of it on the SCMA website. Here's a link to the PDF flyer from my google docs.

http://j.mp/echo-May-11

David
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2013 - 04:59pm PT
Well, looks like we probably won't find the culprit. My internet sleuthing and slew of e-mails came up with nothing. Could have been anyone. BTW- So. Cal Climbers didn't have any meet-ups that weekend to they are innocent.

Like I said.. now we're back to blaming Gym climbers and Euros

David mentioned the cleanup day on May 11th. We'll get a separate thread going for that.

@BASE: If you haven't been to Echo.. hauling a generator and power-washer in there would be very difficult. It's a long hike with a very steep section at the end to get down to the cliffs.

@Reilly: Funny story LOL. I get kinda nutso with litterbugs. Good thing I don't have a gun to threaten them with.

@Willy: Giant orange arrows were definitely "obvious". You may have hiked in after I'd already removed them, or you may need to get your eyes checked for color blindness. ;)

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