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moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 4, 2013 - 03:48pm PT
Bad idea!

I never knew any climbing girls before I got married, but my daughter dated a climber one once. She is a climber too. She is worried ;)


Chris Weidner: Top 10 reasons why you shouldn't date a climber
By Chris Weidner, For the Camera

Springtime seems confused this year, as if it's not quite ready to live up to its rep as the season of warmth and romance.

If you're as confused as the spring, then heed these words of caution before exposing your heart to that cruel yet irresistible miasma of hope and rejection, comfort and pain, longing and regret (i.e. dating):

Beware of dating a climber.

This strangely seductive species lurks everywhere in Boulder (fortunately, they're easy to spot. Note the hunched shoulders, over-developed lats and gnarly looking hands with twisted knuckles and desiccated skin). Here are the top five reasons why you shouldn't date a climber guy or a climber girl.

Climber dudes are bad dates because:

1) Like all guys, they have a one-track mind, and it's honed in on their next climb -- not on you. "Everything depends on the weather," said one frustrated, date-starved woman with a climber dude. "They'll flake out on dates whenever conditions are good."

2) If their one-track mind does turn to you, well, rest assured they're zeroed in on the S-word (rhymes with "flex" -- the only other thing they do). No surprise, really. But the problem is, they're constantly distracted by uber-lean and fit, scantily clad hotties at the climbing gym. Sadly, many women can't handle that kind of threat. Can you? (As if any climber dudes are a fraction as hot as you are).

3) Nationwide, the average climber dude is a filthy caveman who avoids a real job at all costs. In Boulder, the average climber dude has a condo and a Ph.D. -- but he's still a filthy caveman without a real job.

4) Climber dudes freak out over their weight like teenage girls, especially before an important climb. One fit, local climber girl admitted that her ex-boyfriend was so obsessed that he snuck into her closet. "The minute I saw him wearing my designer skinny jeans -- and they fit! (her emphasis) ... (pause for tears) ... I knew our relationship was over."

5) It's all about them, ALL THE TIME.

Now, I can't deny the allure of asking a climber girl out -- believe me, I know it's tempting. But here's why climber chicks make bad dates:

1) If you're a climber, she's already dated your friends. What can I say? It's a small community.

2) Climber girls think every dude should look like the uber-lean and fit, shirtless men they're surrounded by at the climbing gym. Problem is, the girls can get away with it! See that long line of lonely lurkers right behind you? They're waiting for her to wise up and dump you.

3) Girls employ technique and style when they climb rather than brute strength. There's a good chance she'll outperform you on the rock, in front of all your friends. Can you handle that, Caveman?

4) "They're all psycho," in the words of one fed-up local who swore off climber girls for eternity.

5) If you're the jealous type, forget about dating a climber chick. You love it when she sports that tight, skimpy Spandex while working up a hot sweat. But dude, she does the same thing when you're not around, in front of all the other guys. A few of them, BTW, are hotter, stronger, smarter and richer than you are.

http://www.dailycamera.com/recreation-columnists/ci_22877311/chris-weidner-top-10-reasons-why-you-shouldnt
Roots

Mountain climber
SoCal
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:14pm PT
ha - just my wife and after reading that I'm glad we started (climbing) together..
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
Ever Dated a Climber?

Really bad pick-up line.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
Yeah. She climbed way harder than me. Like .11 trad when I was just learning to place gear. It lasted for a while, but obviously didn't work out. Now I see her boyfriend in the climbing magazines from time to time.
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
DAted a few. Married one - 21 years and still counting. He will give me away to other partners for climbs he doesn't want to do and be waiting at the top/bottom with refreshments. What's not to love about that?
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:28pm PT
It's not climbers per se, it's climbing guides you want to avoid dating.



So...

What's the difference between a climbing guide and a large pizza?
Spanky

Social climber
boulder co
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:33pm PT
A large pizza can feed a family! ha

I dated a climber once. She was a pretty strong leader(9's and 10-) but she would only try harder pitches that suited her style like finger and thin hand cracks. Anything that was awkward or runout was always my pitch and she complained when I had to work for them but loved to toot her horn about the thin hand cracks she styled (she had tiny hands) It was also hard to watch her on the sharp end because it made me worry. My wife climbs with me now but she doesn't lead and we just do mellow stuff so its always fun.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
'Dated' is a double entendre around here.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
Yup. She made me who i am, and then dumped me when i was hurt for some other guide type who had a snowmobile.

Now i'm training one who is perpetually scared and wonders why no one calls her to go climbing... Then complains about it while i'm in rehab... Sigh..
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
"entendre"???

No cursing on ST Reilly!
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2013 - 05:03pm PT
I married a girl that was afraid of everything. I was fun teaching her swimming, snorkeling, kayaking, skiing, and even going on a roller coaster. She overcame her many fears and became a quite adventurous person. She is my heroine because it is easy to do something you don't fear, but to be afraid and do it anyway, it takes guts! (Climbing is a bit too much for her, but she got up the cables on Half Dome :)

GhoulweJ

Trad climber
El Dorado Hills, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:10pm PT
I've been dating a non-climber... I can report that dating a non-climber doesn't work.



stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:30pm PT
I still climb with the girl I briefly dated. She leads sport and with some encouragement I hope to get her leading on gear. Everyone should be well rounded, aye? Ah, mixing climbing with romance is pretty intoxicating. I loved our first road trip together.
HF

climber
I'm a Norwegian stuck in Joshua Tree
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:33pm PT
I married him. Does that count?
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
I married him. Does that count?

Why doesn't he rescue you from that Joshua Tree then?

;)
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
What is dating?
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:11pm PT

Now i'm training one who is perpetually scared and wonders why no one calls her to go climbing... Then complains about it while i'm in rehab... Sigh..

Big Mike, I take it she's not on Supertopo
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:14pm PT
What is dating?

Chasing sheep.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
The only one I dated I married, which, after kids, pretty much put the skids on climbing for both of us, her willingly, me very, very grudgingly. I actually had a much easier time going climbing when I dated non-climbers. Looking at other climber friends who married non-climbers, they seem to enjoy the same benefit.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:36pm PT
It has its ups and downs.
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:38pm PT
Isabella on her 50th Bday getting ready to send/free her Birthday pres...
Isabella on her 50th Bday getting ready to send/free her Birthday present. A new climb lead bolted by me...
Credit: tradmanclimbs
It's complicated.....
Crackslayer

Trad climber
Eldo
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:39pm PT
ahhh... the ol' dating game. Can't date climbers...Can't date non-climbers. Kind of a lose-lose situation for us.

I think I like dating skiers the best. They have good curves!
TwistedCrank

climber
Dingleberry Gulch, Ideeho
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
Pickup line:

Hey baby. Wanna go climb some offwidth and then fukk?

If she says no, then ask her why she doesn't like offwidths.
10b4me

Ice climber
Happy Boulders
Apr 4, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
It's complicated.....
you're spending way too much time on facebook
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 4, 2013 - 07:24pm PT
I swore I'd never date another climber chick.
So I dated some non-climbers.

Then I swore I'd never teach another chick to climb.
So I dated climber chicks again.

I finally found a happy medium... a good belayer that is getting strong quickly but is still a little confused by the difference between sore muscles and injuries.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Apr 4, 2013 - 07:27pm PT


LMAO!!!...

and the timing was right on the mark!!!...


"I've been dating a non-climber... I can report that dating a non-climber doesn't work."...

SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Apr 4, 2013 - 09:40pm PT

Ever climbed a dater?
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 4, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
I married a skydiver that was starting to think her number was coming up soon. Think 26 jumps on her 26th birthday, and a long list of dead friends.

We discovered that the dark-humor between the two cultures is similar, but the climbing partying is way easier for old climbers, than for old skydivers.

Yeah, she moved into climbing culture ok, for 25 years this August.

COR.
COR.
Credit: Fritz

Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 4, 2013 - 10:42pm PT
10b- not enough to find this post! And if so meh... She'll deal.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
take a core sample and count the dirt rings?
MisterE

Social climber
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
Ed, That is about as sexy as geology gets, right there.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
I see. Dating a climber can be dangerous to the said climber.

nice one Ed!
BirdDog44

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 5, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
Remember when Jimmy Carter tried to rescue the Iranian Hosatages? Yea - big military fail!

So, back before twitter, email, cell phones, and voice mail; we had hello, busy signal, and ring, ring, ring. All week Greg and I had tried to get in touch with Tom; nothing but ring..ring. Weather was looking stellar, and the moats wern't huge yet; Torment/Forbidden was in. Friday after work Greg picked me up and on a last ditch attempt we stopped by Tom's house. We walk in, there's Tom and his date on cuddled on the couch.

"dude, we're doing Torment/Forbiddden; come on, let's go" we say.
Tom jumps off the couch starts packing his gear.
"Ummm...Tom, what are doing?" says date.
"Oh honey...we've been planning the climb for months, this the only weekend we can do it" says Tom.
"what..you leaving...you going climbing?" says date desperately.
"yea, sorry honey, got to go" says Tom as he pecks her on the cheek and walks out.
Fantastic climb, awesome bivi's, perfect snow. Back in Seattle, Tom says; come on in for cold one. We walk in, and the house cleaned out. Totally! Furniture gone, Klipsch corner horn speakers which were each 3' wide and 4' tall - gone. His baja bug - gone. Just before the cops arrive Tom finds the note:
"now you know what it feels like to left without anything"
Judge gave the bitch the option of jail or joining the military. Now you know the rest of the story.

Oh yea, never date a climber.
Rankin

Social climber
Greensboro, North Carolina
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:16pm PT
Yes I have. My girlfriend doesn't climb, and she's a real keeper. I prefer it this way because I can give her and my climbing unadulterated attention.
MisterE

Social climber
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
Too funny, Bird Dog. The North Cascades are a fickle mistress, as well.

Erik Wolfe
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
From MP.com:

Skat B wrote:
Anyone know any single climbing chicks? All the ones I meet are already taken and/or every guy in that area has dipped their hands into her chalk bag.

Em Cos wrote:
I know a lot of awesome, beautiful, single female climbers. One of the reasons they remain single is because they keep meeting guys who say super charming things like this.




R.B.

Trad climber
47N 122W
Apr 6, 2013 - 01:57am PT
I know my ex-wife said once right before we divorced
I will never marry another Engineer
(Translated that ultimately meant "climber.")

Yeah, well I'd never marry a (fill-in the blank) again, either.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 08:11am PT
I have. Didn't work out so great.
Meh.
saa

climber
not much of a
Apr 6, 2013 - 08:44am PT
First climber I dated got me started. When I got
better than him, he was always too busy with his bicycle
to climb with me.
Then lots of awkward nights at Camp 4 and Hidden
Valley. So i gave up dating climbers and earned the title
Iron Maiden Duchess of Camp 4. Go figure!!?

S
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Apr 6, 2013 - 09:17am PT
"They're all psycho"

Duh! But in a good way.

Climber chicks are especially psycho. In a bad way.
stich

Trad climber
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Apr 6, 2013 - 09:24am PT
Saying climber chicks are all psycho is kind of the fox and the grapes, isn't it?
hossjulia

Trad climber
Where the Hoback and the mighty Snake River meet
Apr 6, 2013 - 09:37am PT
no sheee, but look who it's coming from, wouldn't date any of them. ;->

doh, the post quoted was deleted! bahaha


I could have some great reasons for bashing climber guys, but I don't. I love men. Especially climbers. All faults aside, most of them know how to live. Never did go in for much of that girly sh#t.
WTF

climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 09:44am PT
Isn't climbing where you go,to get away from your chick?

I would never teach or look for a chick who climbed its my sport and ill be damed if I'm going to spend all week with you performing sex acts and cooking and then spend my weekend belaying you.

Nooooo way. Plus IMO the only thing more lame than dogs at crags are couples fighting at crags. It's just a real crag buzz killer.

Captain...or Skully

climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 10:13am PT
Most interesting folks have at least a dash of crazy in the mix.
Work with it, or don't.
Onewhowalksonrocks

Mountain climber
portland, Maine
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:35am PT
A question I have pondered for years.

Positive side, I will always have a partner.

Negative, she will always wants to go climbing with me.

I had meet this chick that was looking for a climbing partner. So, we started to climb together. We became "climbing partners", and a month into our climbing ventures she found a excuse to spend the night at my place. Now we were dating. That lasted for six months, during this time my old partner moved back into the area. So, her and I didn't climb all the time together. Then she pulled the " I want to be just "friends/climbing buddies". I told her I have plenty of friends and other climbing buddies and I don't do friends well with x girl friends. She became my stocker.

I have had most of the climber ex girl friends become stockers. What's up with that!

I could go on............

Dated this climber chick. We had mid week days off, so we would be at Josh almost every week and I guided there on weekends. I got to know the entrance gate park service girl. Once the girlfriend and I pulled up to the entrance, I had forgotten my pass. The gate keeper let us in for free and gave me a note for the way out. This pissed off the girlfriend, saying what's up with that. You doing her on weekends? So, I dumped her and started dating the gate keeper, a non climber. Not only a non climber, but a working girl with a hot shower and a warm bed!

A girlfriend that climbs wants you to carry everything.

A girl climbing partner shares the load.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:37am PT
WalMart needs stockers.
Others, not so much. The flux can be deluxe.
Some days, anyways.
ncskains

Ice climber
Alaska
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:45am PT
With the recent failure of my A5 marriage.. To a woman I gave up the entire world to, later to find out she constantly lied to me about everything and talked to other guys/exs behind my back...

Through this i have set new life expectations and desires.. Not only to protect myself but to enjoy wall climbing together, with out the infamous mid wall melt down as discussed above..


She Must own a set of wall ladders and have led a at least climbed C1 before.

Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:57am PT
Here's something to consider, whether or not your spouse or gf climbs/skis misses the point. Your own passion is what counts and having a complimentary partner in life that understands just how important that is to you is what separates a good relationship from one that is challenged constantly.

I met my wife climbing and we had so much fun and still do climb, hike and ski together in joyful bliss. She doesn't climb as much anymore nor does she enter my world of "mono-thought" when the snow flies. She does however appreciate that need to fed my soul and freely let's me go and pursue my passion without the guilt trips when I leave. I am truly a lucky man and I wish for you all to find or keep those who are already happy with themselves so you may be free to fed your rat with or without them.

That said it's easier for one to know one:

Credit: Charlie D.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:59am PT
Yeah. I was sitting there at her kitchen table when totally out of the blue she says...

"You know what the problem is? When I look straight into your eyes I can tell that you are not sane."
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2013 - 12:06pm PT
Good for you Charlie!

My girl understands me too even though she is not a climber. Aren't we lucky?

:)

Edit: Ksolem, too funny. lol
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Apr 6, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
^^^indeed, luck I'm afraid has much to do with it, glad to hear you got it.
eKat

Trad climber
Less than a second shy of 49 minutes
Apr 6, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
Define "dated". . .
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
Dating is a form of courtship consisting of social activities done by two people with the aim of each assessing the other's suitability as a partner in an intimate relationship or as a spouse. While the term has several meanings, it usually refers to the act of meeting and engaging in some mutually agreed upon social activity in public, together, as a couple.
The protocols and practices of dating, and the terms used to describe it, vary considerably from country to country. The most common idea is two people trying out a relationship and exploring whether they're compatible by going out together in public as a couple, who may or may not yet be having sexual relations. This period of courtship is sometimes seen as a precursor to engagement or marriage.

According to Wikipedia :)
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Apr 6, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
^^^indeed, luck I'm afraid has much to do with it, glad to hear you got it.

Truth is I've dated climbers exclusively since I started climbing. And after being disqualified due to insanity and various other reasons many of us are still friends, some not. Anyway luck, or serendipity or whatever came my way too. Actually I think I must have saved the universe in a previous life...

Credit: Jeff Lieberman
Anastasia

climber
Home
Apr 6, 2013 - 02:27pm PT
I am experienced with dating all types of climbers. From want-a-be climbers to bona-fide bad asses. Plus I dated non climbers which really didn't work because of the psycho factor. It's an interesting road, that's for sure...

One... Yes, ALL climbers are psycho... There are different versions of psycho, some more obvious than others but it's "there for sure." Anyone who is happiest on the side of a cliff isn't rational. This is not the best trait for having a good relationship. Unless the other person feels the same... They will not understand and will be very afraid of what you call fun.

Two... I married one and even worse, he is an Alpinist and yes... He was thinking of going on a climbing trip when I was due to give birth to Aris. He would have done it too until he realized that I would have hunted him down and killed him with his own ice ax. (Insert psycho factor here.) He did it two months later and yes... I really didn't mind then, I get it since I am a climber too.

Three... PLEASE Note: An Alpinist might have a real job unlike a Rock Climber but... It is to support their climbing trips to Tibet and Patagonia, etc. You will as their spouse never own real furniture or good silverware. The only reason they "might" have a nice car is that it allows them more trips... It will not stay nice since it will spend more time off road in bad terrain than not. Yet the good news is you will own a collection of camping gear that rivals REI's selection. On your anniversary, birthday, etc, you will get more gear. You will never give up old gear because you "might" need it. By the time you are my age, you will have enough to outfit a large group of boyscouts and their families. Maybe their neighbors too. Yet when you buy soap, or a dress, your husband will consider that a waste of money. Now if you buy techno adventure wear, SPF 20, etc. That is all good because it's "gear."If you need to buy the kid a crib, or diapers... Tell your spouse you are buying kid "gear." Gear is always good. Never mention it as anything else since that is under the category of unnecessary stuff.

Four. When Bill is free, it's not about yard work or family time, it's the next big trip.

Five... Quality time for the family is during the drive to his next climb.

Six, His version of childcare is hauling the kid, buying the kid gear. Tying up the kid so the kid can learn how to undo knots quickly, etc. Be prepared for unconventional parenting.

Seven, If you want a husband on weekends and holidays. Don't marry a climber. If you like them gone... (I do since I get the place to be my way, I can keep the kid on a routine, etc.) It's not a bad deal.

Eight, If you both want to climb... Hopefully you have family to take care of the kids. If not... Be prepared that your husband will volunteer you every time for the childcare while he goes off. No worries, whenever he is gone, I get rid of some of that old life threatening gear he swears we need to keep. See... Everyone gets their kicks in some way.

Nine: You will fight over who's gear is who's... Who gets to use the nice rope. It will be passionate. It will involve bribery sex, it will be good.

Ten: If you think sanity will enter the room when you have kids... Nope, it only gets way more interesting. Luckily the kid will get it since it's "your kid." In fact when he wants something like an xBox... The child at the tender age of four will inform his father about the new "gear." :)
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Apr 6, 2013 - 03:18pm PT
By the time you are my age, you will have enough to outfit a large group of boyscouts and their families

By the time you are my age you see equipment in climbing museum displays and say "hey I have that in my garage". Or your 22 year old son sees some of your old equipment andsays "was this Grandpas?" And Grandpa is 90.

Susan
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2013 - 03:26pm PT
Wow Anastasia, awesome post!

You wonna date?

;)
Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Apr 6, 2013 - 03:47pm PT
Seems that cluster B personality disorders are really over-represented in women climbers, and in "outdoorsy" women in general.

sullly

Trad climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
Why do married people always start dating threads?


moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2013 - 03:57pm PT
I don't know Sully. Do you?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 6, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
Ever carbon-dated a Fossil Climber?

Ever wear Lycra, TM?

Lycra rock group?  Lycra groupies?
Lycra rock group? Lycra groupies?
Credit: see link below

Ever date a Beckey?
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 6, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
Climbers don't date they masturbate.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
Captain...or Skully

climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
27 "I know's".....
Dig it.

I'll go out with whomever will have me. Like most rockmonkeys.
Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:46pm PT
I married a climber. She has tried to quit climbing. That would be a problem.

We are working on getting in better shape so climbing is more fun. But am I gunna quit....... not a chance. She knows what's expected.

Last time to the Valley we stopped at the Meadows. Climbed Northwest Books on
Lambert Dome. Then did some real easy stuff in the Valley. Kept it fun and light and by the end of the trip she was climbing Church Bowl Lieback 5.8 and having the time of her life.

I'll keep her in the game. I just have to be tricky about it. Hee hee hee....

Plaid
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Apr 7, 2013 - 12:11am PT
real easy stuff in the Valley

Please advise!!!!!????

Every year it gets harder for me. Boo hoo poor pitiful me. Headed up Monday for our first spring Valley foray.

Susan
BurntToast

climber
CA
Apr 7, 2013 - 12:21am PT
Get yourself a Belay Queen

kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 7, 2013 - 12:26am PT
Why do married people always start dating threads?

Cuz they're better than the pope thread?
Captain...or Skully

climber
Apr 7, 2013 - 12:33am PT
anything is better than a Pope thread, maaaaan.
Plaidman

Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
Apr 7, 2013 - 12:39am PT
@SCseagoat - Here is a list of easy stuff we did.

Swan Slab Gully, T. Claude's Delight on Swan Slab.

Regular Route on Sunnyside Bench -WARNING- The walk off is 5.9!

Uncle Fanny and Church Bowl Lieback on Church Bowl.

I am surprised we didn't make it over to do the Grack on Glacier Point Apron.
That's a fun one in the rain. Not really. Fun when it's dry. Scary when wet.

Plaid
SCseagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Apr 7, 2013 - 01:10am PT
Thanks Plaid, pretty familiar with all of them, thought perhaps some others I might have overlooked. Footstool up on base of El Cap is nice and easy, and Aunt Fannys.
As it After Six et al at Manure.

Susan
Scrubber

climber
Straight outta Squampton
Apr 7, 2013 - 01:18am PT
Ever Dated a Climber?

Nah, my wife gets really pissy when I do stuff like that.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 7, 2013 - 01:25am PT
Scrubber, LOL!































I am still laughing :)))
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 7, 2013 - 04:07am PT
Scrubber tell em your gear story!
Bldrjac

Ice climber
Boulder
Apr 7, 2013 - 11:13am PT
Well, I dated a few, married the last. Would still be married today if he hadn't died climbing! :-( I used to think sometimes, like you do, "if something ever happened to Jack, I'd NEVER date a climber again." Why not? Sooo selfish about the activity. And that being said, Jack was actually REALLY good. He ALWAYS asked me if I would be ok about his various trips, rather than, "oh, by the way, I'm going to Alaska for a month." Also, he/we loved doing OTHER stuff together also...biking, swimming, nice restaurants, reading, skiing.....anything, really. And when I was feeling wimpy, he'd ramp the level down a lot, and wouldn't (hardly!) complain. So the memories of our adventures together, climbing or otherwise, are some of the best I have.
So now I'm "single", a year and 3 months now. A gal looks around even if she's not that interested in leaping into the pool quite yet (well, maybe for a dip, but not necessarily a swim! :-) ). Anyway, I don't see much out there that is interesting (and not already married or too young)...but what I DO know is I'm probably doomed to only be interested in people that are passionate....whether it be about climbing, or something else, Fortunately or unfortunately, climbers are some of the most passionate people I know. So yeah, I guess I'd date a climber again....after all, some of my best friends are climbers! :-)
Pam
















Anastasia

climber
Home
Apr 7, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
Bldrjac,

I feel for you. I don't know what it's like to lose a good mate, but gosh... That must be the worst of the worst. As for me... I was a serial long term relationship gal. My average was three to five years, once I even went seven years and sadly I am not even kidding or exaggerating. Every time I got out there were less choices. (Yes, the good ones do get taken FAST.) I was getting deeply sad because all my friends had families, good home lives and I... I was always elsewhere, mostly alone, wondering about my right to want what they had.

All I can say is stick to your guns, know exactly what you want, speak up for it and don't settle for less. Be aware there will be backlash but heck.. It's worth burning a few bridges than dealing with someone not up for the job and yet... Does want possession of you. (I have some crazy stories.) To sum it up quickly... I myself realized being alone was a heck of a lot nicer than being with the wrong person who thought you owed them everything for putting up with you. (Yes, It was A Red Flag Parade.)

As for me, Bill showed up when I had given up. I was literally dusting off my pants from the last train wreck relationship and figuring that dogs were the best companions. Even today I don't understand what happened. All I know is I tried scaring Bill off, I tried hooking him up with friends, I gave him every reason to not date me and instead he married me 9 weeks later.(Yes, he is impulsive and as crazy as I am.) Plus, strangely I still got a dog. Life really is weirder than fiction. :)

I do know that if something happened to Bill... I'm done. I was lucky enough to win something this good once. I'm not known for luck to pull this off again. Plus dating with a kid, I really rather not. I hope Bill sticks around for the long haul and... If not, yeah, Dogs are really good companions.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 7, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
Bldrjac--

While ALL the climbing folks I know and have known are somehow more intense about something, climbing was the activity which brought them all together.

Sacherer had his physics, along with many others.
Roper became a Roper of note, along with the other writers like Robbins, Higgins, Amenttins, et al.
Denny and Cooper and Rowell and Flores, photographers of exceptional talent.
Phil Bircheff and others too numerous to mention are artists and creators.

But then that tends to be the problem in that the intensity gets in the way of intimacy. It says so, right there in Roper, someplace.

Good luck with 'em.



moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 7, 2013 - 03:03pm PT
When my wife (non climber) talks about our marriage, she says that life with me is not boring.

I guess she says I am a little(?) crazy. She didn't know she was marrying a climber :)

I was good in setting traps too!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 7, 2013 - 03:08pm PT
Some of my best friends are climbers.

That's almost as self-incriminating as,

"Some of my best friends are lawyers who climb."

I think I would date a lawyer to go scuba diving with the sharks.
Then I would feel privy to, if not protected by, the professional courtesy schtick.
Bldrjac

Ice climber
Boulder
Apr 7, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
Reilly, I kind of meant that as a joke, since I myself have been a climber (rock, ice, mountains,) since about 1984! I still climb now, although not with the frequency and/or intensity I did when I was younger. Anastasia, thanks for your words/thoughts. Guess I was just thinking out loud. I've actually not ever "dated" much....I have always been SUPER particular, and really only had 2 major boyfriends(relationships of about 3 years each) prior to Jack. Interestingly, those 2 other guys have remained among my closest friends since, and were friends of Jack also. Guess I've always preferred my own company or the company of my girlfriends to a guy I know I'm not interested in, plus I've always been afraid of giving a guy the wrong impression. I can tell right away if I'm "into" a guy or not....and I've always hated the complications that (ahem) arise when you go out with someone anyway, just hoping for a bit of male friendship, and they get the wrong message. All of my best guy friends are married...guess it feels safer! Anyway, all interesting to think about. Hope it works for you with Bill! Oh, and I already have a dog! :-)
Pam
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Apr 7, 2013 - 05:39pm PT
Yeah, I dated a climber once. I call that chapter in my life "how I got an std", hahahaha.
mooser

Trad climber
seattle
Apr 7, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
My wife has dated only one: me. 33 years married this last Friday!

On the ferry, headed to the Olympic Peninsula yesterday.
On the ferry, headed to the Olympic Peninsula yesterday.
Credit: mooser
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 7, 2013 - 08:08pm PT
Mooser, she looks happy! Are you sure you are a climber ;)
Bldrjac

Ice climber
Boulder
Apr 7, 2013 - 11:14pm PT
So cute!! :-)
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 7, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
What do you call a climber that lost his girlfriend.......homeless.

What does a climber use for birth control.....his personality.
mooser

Trad climber
seattle
Apr 8, 2013 - 12:18am PT
Mooser, she looks happy! Are you sure you are a climber ;)

It was our first date (Woodson), and the compulsion continues.
Anastasia

climber
Home
Apr 8, 2013 - 12:47am PT
See... Dogs are the best bet. :P
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 24, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
A snippet from Ryan Grimm's description of a trip up Nutcracker.

Being that After 6 (5.7) was the first established climb at this crag, it’s coincidentally appropriate that it was our first climb on it as well. If it was June maybe we could have started it at 6pm but seeing that it gets dark around 7pm in October, we set out for a 10am start. After a very short walk from the car to the base of the climb we found that there was one party in front of us. The leader was already about a third of the way through the first pitch so we hustled to get ready to go. Turns out our hustling wasn’t really needed.

The party in front of us was comprised of a guy and his girlfriend. He managed to complete the first pitch (which is the hardest of them all) without too much trouble and at a fairly good pace, however she was not feeling so comfortable following and it took her quite a while to complete the pitch. We gave them a bit to get started on their next pitch before Ben took off on lead.

Apparently when Ben reached the top of the pitch the couple was still there and having a bit of an argument. He seemed upset at her for not being comfortable and moving slowly. On top of that he was demanding that if they were to continue that she lead at least one of the pitches. Ben suggested to her that she should lead the second pitch because it’s just 3rd and 4th class walking. Apparently that wouldn’t do, it needed to be “a real pitch”. This just baffles me. If you’re on a climb and your partner is sketched out the last thing you should do is demand that they do some leading, especially when it’s your significant other. Thankfully the couple bailed and rappelled down the route before getting themselves into real trouble.
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Apr 24, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
This is Hilarious!!

1) If you're a climber, she's already dated your friends. What can I say? It's a small community.

Is this saying that inherently, most climber guys and climber girls in fact, date each other, despite the horror? It also kinda implies that most climber girls who want climber guys, end up with a climber guy...cause if one climber guy doesn't satisfy, there are all your climber friends are lining up to step up to the plate and give it a try, regardless of how many friends are before them in the line up

...which is a really funny image actually!

Personally, all the climbing people I've hung around are all happily paired off, so I don't look to the climbing community for my dating prospects.

Sides...I've suspect My Brand of psycho scairt off even the psycho climbers. I think they can tell from my clothes...Special Brand. That and I climb pretty dangerously! Hee hee

Though it is HILARIOUS to see a boulderer, gym rat, or spurt climber trying to engage in flirtatious behavior. They don't seem to get that for me, how HARD they climb is in no way a turn on, shirt or no shirt!

'I climb 10.hard all the time, I could totally show you how to send that V hard, I'll even spot you. Use my pad! (hahahaha!) I could totally take you up that 10.hard sometime...'

No thanks dude, I didn't get into climbing to be 'taken up a climb'...

Would rather climb... Together.

my 2p

Cheers

LS
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