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snowhazed

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:05am PT
BTW fluoride has been recently linked to learning disorders in children

So if one of the things on the op list is true they must all be true!!
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:31am PT
David Icke
From Wikipedia,

David Vaughan Icke (pronunciation: /aɪk/; IKE, born 29 April 1952) is an English writer and public speaker, best known for his conspiracy allegations. Describing himself as the most controversial speaker in the world, he is the author of 19 books and has attracted a global following that cuts across the political spectrum. His 533-page The Biggest Secret (1999) has been called "the Rosetta Stone for conspiracy junkies."[1]

Icke was a BBC television sports presenter and spokesman for the Green Party, when in 1990 a psychic told him that he was a healer who had been placed on Earth for a purpose, and that the spirit world was going to pass messages to him. In March 1991 he held a press conference to announce that he was a "Son of the Godhead" – a phrase he said later the media had misunderstood – and the following month told the BBC's Wogan that the world would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes. He said the show changed his life, turning him from a respected household name into someone who was laughed at whenever he appeared in public.[2]

He continued nevertheless to develop his ideas, and in four books published over seven years – The Robots' Rebellion (1994), And the Truth Shall Set You Free (1995), The Biggest Secret (1999), and Children of the Matrix (2001) – set out a moral and political worldview that combined New-Age spiritualism with a passionate denunciation of totalitarian trends in the modern world. At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood (Illuminati) controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.[3]

Michael Barkun has described Icke's position as "New Age conspiracism," writing that he is the most fluent of the conspiracist genre. Richard Kahn and Tyson Lewis argue that the reptilian hypothesis may simply be Swiftian satire, a way of giving ordinary people a narrative with which to question what they see around them.[4]


Reptoid hypothesisIcke introduced the reptoid hypothesis in The Biggest Secret (1999), which identified the Brotherhood as descendants of reptilians from the constellation Draco, who walk on two legs and appear human, and who live in tunnels and caverns inside the earth. He argues that the reptilians are the race of gods known as the Anunnaki in the Babylonian creation myth, Enϋma Eliš.[41] According to Barkun, Icke's idea of "inner-earth reptilians" is not new, though he has done more than most to expand it.[42]


The Draco constellation from Uranographia by Johannes Hevelius, 1690. Icke's "reptoid hypothesis" posits that humanity is ruled by descendants of reptilians from Draco.[43]Lewis and Kahn write that Icke has taken his "ancient astronaut" narrative from the Israeli-American writer, Zecharia Sitchin, who argued – for example in Divine Encounters (1995) – that the Anunnaki had come to Earth for its precious metals. Icke argues that they came specifically for "monoatomic gold," a mineral he says can increase the carrying capacity of the nervous system ten thousandfold. After ingesting it, the reptilians can process vast amounts of information, speed up trans-dimensional travel, and shapeshift from reptilian to human form.[44] They use human fear, guilt, and aggression as energy. "Thus we have the encouragement of wars," he wrote in 1999, "human genocide, the mass slaughter of animals, sexual perversions which create highly charged negative energy, and black magic ritual and sacrifice which takes place on a scale that will stagger those who have not studied the subject."[45] Lewis and Kahn argue that Icke is using allegory to depict the alien, and alienating, nature of global capitalism.[46]

Icke writes that the Anunnaki have crossbred with human beings, the breeding lines chosen for political reasons, arguing that they are the Watchers, the fallen angels, or "Grigori," who mated with human women in the Biblical apocrypha. Their first reptilian-human hybrid, possibly Adam, was created 200,000–300,000 years ago. There was a second breeding program 30,000 years ago, and a third 7,000 years ago. It is the half-bloods of the third breeding program who today control the world, more Anunnaki than human, he writes. They have a powerful, hypnotic stare, the origin of the phrase to "give someone the evil eye," and their hybrid DNA allows them to shapeshift when they consume human blood.[47]

In Children of the Matrix (2001), he added that the Anunnaki bred with another extraterrestrial race called the "Nordics," who had blond hair and blue eyes, to produce a race of human slave masters, the Aryans. The Aryans retain many reptilian traits, including cold-blooded attitudes, a desire for top-down control, and an obsession with ritual, lending them a tendency toward fascism, rationalism, and racism. Lewis and Kahn write that, with the Nordic hypothesis, Icke is mirroring standard claims by the far right that the Aryan bloodline has ruled the Earth throughout history.[48]

[edit] DimensionsThe reptilians not only come from another planet, but are also from another dimension, the lower level of the fourth dimension, the one nearest the physical world. Icke writes that the universe consists of an infinite number of frequencies or dimensions that share the same space, just like television and radio frequencies. Some people can tune their consciousness to other wavelengths, which is what psychic power consists of, and it is from one of these other dimensions that the Anunnaki are controlling this world – although just as fourth-dimensional reptilians control us, they are controlled in turn by a fifth dimension. The lower level of the fourth dimension is what others call the "lower astral dimension." Icke argued that it is where demons live, the entities Satanists summon during their rituals. They are, in fact, summoning the reptilians.[49] Barkun argues that the introduction of different dimensions allows Icke to skip awkward questions about which part of the universe the reptilians come from, and how they got here.[42]

[edit] Problem-reaction-solutionIn Tales From The Time Loop (2003), Icke argues that most organised religions, especially Judaism, Christianity and Islam, are Illuminati creations designed to divide and conquer the human race through endless conflicts, as are racial, ethnic, and sexual divisions. He cites the Oklahoma City bombing and 9/11 as examples of events organised by the Global Elite.[50] The incidents allow the Elite to respond in whatever way they intended to act in the first place, a concept Icke calls "order out of chaos," or "problem-reaction-solution." He writes that there are few, if any, public events that are not engineered, or at least used, by the Brotherhood:[17]

You want to introduce something you know the people won't like. ... So you first create a PROBLEM, a rising crime rate, more violence, a terrorist bomb ... You make sure someone else is blamed for this problem ... So you create a "patsy," as they call them in America, a Timothy McVeigh or a Lee Harvey Oswald. ... This brings us to stage two, the REACTION from the people – "This can't go on; what are THEY going to do about it?" ... This allows THEM to then openly offer the SOLUTION to the problems they have created ..."


Credit: Dr. F.
Image by Neil Hague from Icke's Infinite Love is the Only Truth (2005), showing Queen Elizabeth II, George W. Bush and Tony Blair as "Red Dresses," the highest level of the Brotherhood.




I read these books, The Biggest Secret (1999), and Children of the Matrix (2001), just to get a look of the inside of the wacko NWO movement, a must read for those that want to see every angle on what's gong on the minds of the paranoid.
Of course I think it's a bunch of nonsense,
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:52am PT
Can't name the VP or SOD?

Time itself is controlled by the NWO?

G'damn, you need a couple new friends Coz. Those two must've fallen on their head doing Mission Impossible stunts.....




Credit: survival
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:54am PT
Hey, I've heard people believe that one guy was a god, his own son, died, resurected and went alive to haven. Isn't that crazy???
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Apr 4, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
So tell me then what I"m spozed to believe if you've got the goods on all that and a bag of chips.

What you believe in ?
What some other guy tells me to believe in ?
What I'm taught in school to believe in ?
What this age of edumacated people write in the papers and books and on the television?
What National Geographic publishes in their mag?
What my government sez on the PSAs?
What my neighbour tells me over the fence ?

What I believe in might not be what you believe in but don't tell me I"m a retard and I won't call you one either.

Just be a good person.

Duzzn't matter if you believe in virgins giving birth, guys being air-lifted to heaven, fairies, Fukushima sending us cancer, your cat being tuned to HAARP, Marilyn Monroe murdered because of Bobby, what the CIA does and doesn't do, COINTEL, counterCOINTEL, lizards, farts, and boogers.

Just be a good person.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Apr 4, 2013 - 12:46pm PT

The Reptilian Manipulation of Humanity - The FULL STORY (1/8) - David Icke .
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 4, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
Tami +1
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 4, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Gotta loose some weight, can't fit in my red dress anymore.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Apr 4, 2013 - 01:29pm PT
Seems like if you can put it on TV or YT someone will believe it..

What's funny to me is that some people still believe we evolved from lizards.

Maybe we're just going back to our roots?
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 4, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
Good on ya, Tami.

It's just math.

9 billion people = 9 billion potential or actual belief systems.

the only way we can make that work is to be good to people.
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Apr 4, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
Lizard status would be an improvement for many of the folks in Washington DC
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
Lizard people for president!
Lizard people for congress!
Let them rule the world and eat us.
At least we might be well fed before being eaten...
;-)
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
I'm knot sure I'm getting this, are you folks hinting that lizard people don't run this country (world).
Cause that would suck --- WHO is going to protect us from all those illegal aliens that keep leaving their space ships in Mexico & sneak across the boarder, just to take our clean bodily fluids & pick our fruit & precious veggies.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:01pm PT
9 billion people = 9 billion potential or actual belief systems.

Most current data is 7 billion + 20 million or so? Don't get ahead of us dude, it's bad enough already...
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:01pm PT
Never met a reptile I didn't like. Just don't drink with them. Could look ugly in the morning.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
Obama is the Antichrist 13 percent

wow that's pretty funny
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:42pm PT
Would be interesting to hear about conspiracy theories from people around the world. There are many crazy ones regarding USA I bet..
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
I wonder if any of that 13% voted for him anyhow...LOL
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:46pm PT
Yes, 5% of those who believe that Obama was the Anti-Christ did vote for him Steve. You can catch up with them over on the "Republicans are dumb" thread which currently has 31,000 posts from approx 6 different people.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 4, 2013 - 08:21pm PT
At least you know his job performance would be, well...KILLER!
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