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Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 3, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
I don't remember the "conspiracy believers" discussing and over-discusing that topic on ST as of yet.

However most every other conspiracy mentioned below has been discussed on ST. Here's the link to the original article:

http://news.yahoo.com/12-million-americans-believe-lizard-people-run-country-184751427.html

**12 Million Americans Believe Lizard People Run Our Country
By Philip Bump | The Atlantic Wire – 20 hrs ago.**

..About 90 million Americans believe aliens exist. Some 66 million of us think aliens landed at Roswell in 1948. These are the things you learn when there's a lull in political news and pollsters get to ask whatever questions they want.


Public Policy Polling has raised weird polls to an art form. During last year's presidential campaign, the firm earned a bit of a reputation for its unorthodox questions; for example, "If God exists, do you approve of its handling of natural disasters?"


Today PPP released the results of a national survey looking at common conspiracy theories. Broken down by topic and cross-referenced by political preference, the results will not inspire a lot of patriotism. If you need to defend your fellow countrymen, be sure to note that the margin of error is 2.8 percent.


We took the findings and arranged them from most- to least-believed. And, just to inspire additional shame, figured out how many actual Americans that meant must believe in things like the danger of fluoride in water. (28 million, if you're wondering.)




Conspiracy Percent believing Number of Americans believing:

JFK was killed by conspiracy 51 percent 160,096,160
Bush intentionally misled on Iraq WMDs 44 percent 138,122,178
Global warming is a hoax 37 percent 116,148,195
Aliens exist 29 percent 91,035,072
New World Order 28 percent 87,895,931
Hussein was involved in 9/11 28 percent 87,895,931
A UFO crashed at Roswell 21 percent 65,921,948
Vaccines are linked to autism 20 percent 62,782,808
The government controls minds with TV 15 percent 47,087,106
Medical industry invents diseases 15 percent 47,087,106
CIA developed crack 14 percent 43,947,966
Bigfoot exists 14 percent 43,947,966
Obama is the Antichrist 13 percent 40,808,825
The government allowed 9/11 11 percent 34,530,544
Fluoride is dangerous 9 percent 28,252,264
The moon landing was faked 7 percent 21,973,983
Bin Laden is alive 6 percent 18,834,842
Airplane contrails are sinister chemicals 5 percent 15,695,702
McCartney died in 1966 5 percent 15,695,702
Lizard people control politics 4 percent 12,556,562

Just to further inspire conversation, PPP broke down belief in each theory by whom the respondent supported in the 2012 election. This yielded some genuinely interesting results.


For example, only two conspiracies were more commonly believed by Obama supporters: that Bush intentionally misled America about Iraq's WMDs (a massive 69 percent of his supporters believe that one) and that the moon landing was faked. There two theories with equal support among Obama and Romney supporters: that aliens exist and theone about fluoridation. Everything else, from lizard people to vaccines and autism to global warming being a hoax? Believed by more Romney supporters.

No conspiracy was less commonly believed than one suggesting that the government is populated by lizard people. But that's mostly because only 2 percent of Obama supporters believe the theory while 5 percent of Romney supporters do.

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moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:24pm PT
What is your point Fritz? Those are FACTS! Just ask Tony ;)
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:35pm PT
New World Order 28 percent 87,895,931



well, New World Order2, you got plenty of sheep to keep you company

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:39pm PT
Geez, Werner had better change his tune cause there's a lot of
not-so-stoopid Americans that have got it figgered out!
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
Reptilian minds think alike.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:43pm PT
Lizards are great climbers
Gene

climber
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:45pm PT
12 million Americans believe Lizard People Run Our Country!

What was your question?

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Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
C'mon! Everybody knows the reptilians are in charge.

Where've you been?
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 08:54pm PT
Unfortunately-----or fortunately, the polling folks did not ask Americans if they believe in Klimmers favorite conspiracy:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1156814/The-Massive-Ark-on-the-Moon-very-OT-but


I'm betting far more Americans believe Lizard People run our country.
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:57pm PT
If "lizard people" ran our country they would do a better job.....

So I don't believe it.......
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:58pm PT
No surprises there to me, i've already indicted a considerable percentage of Americans as complete morons.
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:59pm PT
Republicans - reptilians - same difference . . .

Either way we're screwed.

At least we have the Pliedians on our side:



All is not lost!
new world order2

climber
Apr 3, 2013 - 09:02pm PT
New World Order 28 percent 87,895,931


well, New World Order2, you got plenty of sheep to keep you company

Indeed I do, Norton. Indeed I do. Bah-ah-ah-ah...

Would you like your RFID implanted in your head, hand, or adze?

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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 3, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
Beth isn't that dangerous if she doesn't have a gun.




And,.. define "lizard people". I might be one.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 3, 2013 - 09:36pm PT
IAM the Lizard KING!
Reeotch

Trad climber
4 Corners Area
Apr 3, 2013 - 09:46pm PT
I knew it! ^^^^

They've even infiltrated supertopo.

I will neutralized them with my Pliedian Love beam
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Apr 3, 2013 - 09:50pm PT
Two words: Dick Cheney
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 3, 2013 - 11:08pm PT
I believe a Lizard runs my life and pursuit of happiness...
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 4, 2013 - 10:52am PT
Credit: troutbreath
squishy

Mountain climber
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:01am PT
People also worship a magical sky wizard every sunday in church, is this really a surprise?
snowhazed

Trad climber
Oaksterdam, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:05am PT
BTW fluoride has been recently linked to learning disorders in children

So if one of the things on the op list is true they must all be true!!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:52am PT
Can't name the VP or SOD?

Time itself is controlled by the NWO?

G'damn, you need a couple new friends Coz. Those two must've fallen on their head doing Mission Impossible stunts.....




Credit: survival
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:54am PT
Hey, I've heard people believe that one guy was a god, his own son, died, resurected and went alive to haven. Isn't that crazy???
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Apr 4, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
So tell me then what I"m spozed to believe if you've got the goods on all that and a bag of chips.

What you believe in ?
What some other guy tells me to believe in ?
What I'm taught in school to believe in ?
What this age of edumacated people write in the papers and books and on the television?
What National Geographic publishes in their mag?
What my government sez on the PSAs?
What my neighbour tells me over the fence ?

What I believe in might not be what you believe in but don't tell me I"m a retard and I won't call you one either.

Just be a good person.

Duzzn't matter if you believe in virgins giving birth, guys being air-lifted to heaven, fairies, Fukushima sending us cancer, your cat being tuned to HAARP, Marilyn Monroe murdered because of Bobby, what the CIA does and doesn't do, COINTEL, counterCOINTEL, lizards, farts, and boogers.

Just be a good person.
moosedrool

Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
Apr 4, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
Tami +1
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 4, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Gotta loose some weight, can't fit in my red dress anymore.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Apr 4, 2013 - 01:29pm PT
Seems like if you can put it on TV or YT someone will believe it..

What's funny to me is that some people still believe we evolved from lizards.

Maybe we're just going back to our roots?
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 4, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
Good on ya, Tami.

It's just math.

9 billion people = 9 billion potential or actual belief systems.

the only way we can make that work is to be good to people.
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
Apr 4, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
Lizard status would be an improvement for many of the folks in Washington DC
labrat

Trad climber
Auburn, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
Lizard people for president!
Lizard people for congress!
Let them rule the world and eat us.
At least we might be well fed before being eaten...
;-)
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
I'm knot sure I'm getting this, are you folks hinting that lizard people don't run this country (world).
Cause that would suck --- WHO is going to protect us from all those illegal aliens that keep leaving their space ships in Mexico & sneak across the boarder, just to take our clean bodily fluids & pick our fruit & precious veggies.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:01pm PT
9 billion people = 9 billion potential or actual belief systems.

Most current data is 7 billion + 20 million or so? Don't get ahead of us dude, it's bad enough already...
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:01pm PT
Never met a reptile I didn't like. Just don't drink with them. Could look ugly in the morning.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
Obama is the Antichrist 13 percent

wow that's pretty funny
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:42pm PT
Would be interesting to hear about conspiracy theories from people around the world. There are many crazy ones regarding USA I bet..
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:44pm PT
I wonder if any of that 13% voted for him anyhow...LOL
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:46pm PT
Yes, 5% of those who believe that Obama was the Anti-Christ did vote for him Steve. You can catch up with them over on the "Republicans are dumb" thread which currently has 31,000 posts from approx 6 different people.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 4, 2013 - 08:21pm PT
At least you know his job performance would be, well...KILLER!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 4, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 4, 2013 - 09:32pm PT
Republicans are dumb" thread which currently has 31,000 posts from approx 6 different people
Are you one of the six?
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2013 - 09:40pm PT
In a (likely futile) attempt to turn this thread (which I thought might be humorous) from becoming:

A ST BICKERFEST!


I will pose a question? When does a “weird-ass conspiracy” become a widely accepted truth (in the mind of the polling company?

Is it when more than 50% of the American public believes in the “weird-ass conspiracy”????

Hankster

Social climber
Golden, CO
Apr 4, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
i've already indicted a considerable percentage of Americans as complete morons.

My survey says 63% of the ST crowd have echoed the same. Lots of dummies for sure.
Mr Roy

climber
Seattle
Apr 4, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
I believe it..

Photo: Associated Press
Photo: Associated Press
Credit: Mr Roy
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:21am PT
http://rense.com/ufo/screwingaliens.htm
TheTye

Trad climber
Sacramento CA
Apr 5, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
Um...

"Aliens existing" isn't a Conspiracy...

If you understand the size of the known Universe it is pretty much a statistical impossibility that life on other planets doesn't exist.

Also, it isn't a Conspiracy that Bush/Cheney misled us into the Iraq war either. We actually know they did.... We, as a nation, are just to stupid or preoccupied to prosecute them as war criminals...
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 5, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
http://www.globalresearch.ca/should-canadian-authorities-arrest-dick-cheney-for-war-crimes-when-he-comes-to-vancouver/26550
TheTye

Trad climber
Sacramento CA
Apr 5, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
Also, I don't "believe" Bigfoot exists per se... But I really really want it to.
TheTye

Trad climber
Sacramento CA
Apr 5, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
Oh man.... Come on Canada! Please!
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Apr 5, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
who can prove Lizard People don't Run Our Country? Links please.
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 5, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
http://www.lizardpersonornot.com/
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 5, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
will we ever be able to fly at light speed?

I don't know about you but I sure have. I had to give it up cause it was
hard on the mind and body. Oh, and relationships.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:04pm PT
27% of Americans who believe Lizard People run the planet, believe 18% of what Fox News tells 39% of the population, about 51% of the conspiracy theories, that 9% of the population believe are generated by 36% of the secret underwear clad Mormons that voted 43% of the time for Mitt Romney.
hillrat

Trad climber
reno, nv
Apr 5, 2013 - 03:08pm PT
my bank account is a conspiracy. no wait, its actually a myth.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 5, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
Credit: kennyt
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 5, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
That settles it no more sleep for me
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:05pm PT
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:22pm PT
I guess you can count the guys in Phish as believers.



Passing through the corridor I came upon an aging knight
Who leaned against the wall in gnarly armor
He was on his way to see the king
Wilson, Wilson, Wilson

He led me through the streets of Prussia talking
As he tried to crush a bug
That scurried underneath his boot heel
He said there was a place where we should go

So he lead me through the forest to the edge of a lagoon by which
We wandered 'til we reached a bubbly spring
The knight grew very quiet as we stood there
Then he lifted up his visor and he turned to me and he began to sing

He said, "I come from the land of darkness"
I said, "I come from the land of doom"
He said, "I come from the land of Gamehendge
From the land of the big baboon
But I'm never, never going back there
And I couldn't if I tried

'Cause I come from the land of lizards
And the lizards they have died
And the lizards they have died
And the lizards they have died
And the lizards they have"

He told me that the lizards
Were a race of people practically extinct
From doing things smart people don't do
He said that he was once a lizard too

His name was Rutherford the Brave
And he was on a quest to save
His people from the fate that lay before them
Their clumsy end was perilously near

The lizards would be saved, he said, if they could be enlightened
By the writings of the Helping Friendly Book
In all of Prussia only one existed
And Wilson had declared that any person who possessed it was a crook

He said, "I come from the land of darkness"
I said, "I come from the land of doom"
He said, "I come from the land of Gamehendge
From the land of the big baboon
But I'm never, never going back there
And I couldn't if I tried

'Cause I come from the land of lizards
And the lizards they have died
And the lizards they have died
And the lizards they have died
And the lizards they have"

The Helping Friendly Book, it seemed
Possessed the ancient secrets
Of eternal joy and never-ending splendor
The trick was to surrender to the flow

We walked along beneath the moon
He lead us through the bush 'till soon
We saw before our eyes a raging river
He said that we could swim it if we tried

And saying this the knight dove in forgetting that his suit of arms
Would surely weigh him down and so he sunk
And as his body disappeared before me
I bowed my head in silence
And remembered all the thoughts that he had thunk

He said, "I come from the land of darkness"
I said, "I come from the land of doom"
He said, "I come from the land of Gamehendge
From the land of the big baboon
But I'm never, never going back there
And I couldn't if I tried

'Cause I come from the land of lizards
And the lizards they have"



Dick Erb

climber
June Lake, CA
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:39pm PT
Back in the old days when I was a young climber, the best climber around married a Lizard.
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 5, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
Chief~"Me no trust White Man, he speaks with Forked Tongue"

A look at the lizard in chaps from yesteryear.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Apr 6, 2013 - 12:05am PT
DRF
that's the STUPIDESTESTEST CRAP you've ever pasted !!!!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 6, 2013 - 12:36am PT
Stacey Keach...
TheTye

Trad climber
Sacramento CA
Apr 6, 2013 - 02:10am PT
Dr. F-

I want to all a-scared... but those guide stone principles seem pretty legit... I just need to figure out where to be to avoid the massive population cuts... or maybe befriend a lizard
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 6, 2013 - 03:10am PT
Dear Dr. F.,

I dreamed that in a dream I had that I'd lost my tail.

I dreamed in another dream that I had that my tail had been cut off. I remember being real horny after that one.

I dreamed in yet another another dream that I was dreaming that I was VERY blind (not just blind-folded or shutting my eyes, but STONE BLIND) and the two other guys from the first two dreams were running around in a panic over their missing tails.

I'm not looking for advice. Just sayin'.

Lost tails are covered under medicare.

Have a good night.
QITNL

climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 03:57am PT
Only 12 million Americans are Lizard People?

I am surprised. Good thing this isn't The Price Is Right.

I would have guessed 240 million.
troutbreath

climber
Kanada
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:29am PT
They use your tail to make a (hungry)clone of you. Watch your back especially where your tail use to be. Happened to Sean Connery and he's a kick ass type of guy.
kennyt

climber
Woodfords,California
Apr 6, 2013 - 11:33am PT
I was thinking this is an insult to lizards everywhere.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Apr 6, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
All I know is a few half full bags of Italian Herb Chipotle Buffalo Ranch Guacamole Thai Peanut Style Chippety Chomps would go down real good about now......
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Apr 6, 2013 - 01:15pm PT
^^^^ & how are you going to get that food without lizard people to protect you from the bad guys.
You people seem to take our Lizard people guardians for granted.
I think you know what I'm talking about.
Climb-on Lizard people.
There better than insecticide.
new world order2

climber
Apr 7, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
Biden recently called to "create a New World Order".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1AMYHHAXhI

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