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Trad climber
Butte, America
Apr 2, 2013 - 03:49pm PT
Credit: mojede

Trad climber
Apr 2, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
f*#king private property. the root of all evil. that and white middle aged men. wouldn't the world be sweet if we just got rid of em......

my uncle taught me to dulfersitz out of my cherry-tree fort when I was six. Haven't forgotten it, and haven't had the opportunity to use it since...
Paul Martzen

Trad climber
Apr 2, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
How can a bunch of old climbers believe that a dulfersitz asphyxiated someone? Dulfersitz is painful and you can easily fall out of them. If you go unconscious you will fall out of one. If he died by hanging on the rope it was something else. Also, if he was rappelling via dulfersitz, how did he not continue to the ground? Especially after he lost consciousness? Because he was being lowered? And his accomplices/parters could not haul him back up?

Wiedenhoeft said the rope that looped around his chest and legs had constricted him. "He got pulled into a fetal position when the rope cinched up on him," he said.
The guy had an improvised harness of some sort that did not prevent the waist loop from riding up around his chest and/or tied in a way that allowed the rope loops to steadily tighten. Meaning he was tied into the end of the rope. Absolutely not a dulfersitz.

When climbers only wore swammi belts, asphyxiation was always a danger.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 2, 2013 - 03:53pm PT
Apr 2, 2013 - 12:33pm PT
Paper says he was 30 years old and from Washington. Anyone know what building was he on?

The DeutscheBank Bldg

Oh, and there's no way he was doing a bonafide Dulfersitz.
Maybe a Doofusitz, or a Carradinesitz.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 2, 2013 - 03:59pm PT
ElCap,, a big diff between me mounting animals owned privatly or publically, and the defacing of said property. The architechts consider their buildings art dont they?

Im simply talking taste here, and my tasts ISNT the gawdy colored art-deco-esque murials on walls of buildings. THE most tastefull one i ever saw was on the side of a building and had the background landscape detailed on it- at one point it just blended with the mountains in the background.. TRULY stunning.. Dont remember where it was though..

at 30,, i certainly had better things to do with my time than tagging, sorry but in this case,, i think stupid should hurt....


Trad climber
Butte, America
Apr 2, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
Credit: mojede

Do shite taggers count as "artists"??

Taking a crap on a piece of canvas does not an artist make...

"If I can do it, then it's not art" --famous somebody
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 2, 2013 - 04:07pm PT
They could create those images in miniature on say,,,a TURKEY tail feather and sell them for $$$. Art should NEVER be meant to be FORCED on anyone.
Jebus H Bomz

Peavine Basecamp
Apr 2, 2013 - 04:09pm PT
Good graffiti art mostly seems to inspire bad graffiti art. Folks tagging out here in the hard, gritty, inner-city streets of... Reno ... duh... whuh?... seem to be pretty lackluster in the talent department anyway.

Whatever. It's crap. So are all the corporate messages spewn at us.

I guess we all need a hobby.

I have to hand it to those daredevils though, that must have been a terrifying damn way to go. You couldn't PAY me to rappel like that!


Trad climber
Chamonix, France
Apr 2, 2013 - 04:22pm PT
This is art:

El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Apr 2, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
at least he died doing what he loved.

Sport climber
Apr 2, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
The owner of Granite Arch knows about as much about climbing as I know about the Universe. And I'll admit I don't know sh*t.

Trad climber
Apr 2, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
^^^^^^very cool vid ^^^^^^^^^
Dave Kos

Social climber
Apr 2, 2013 - 04:49pm PT
This guy redefined tagging:


Trad climber
Psych hospital by day
Apr 4, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
There's a movie about Banksy called Exit Through the Gift Shop

Trad climber
Albuquerque, NM
Apr 4, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
Everybody should use the Dulfersitz once ... then pray you never have to use it the rest of your life....

Although Paul Martzen is right - you'd fall out of a dulfersitz before you'd strangle in one....

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 02:05pm PT

Not sure what building it is, but I was running by it as they were picking up his body. There was a big crowd and I assumed someone had killed themselves.

It was across the street (west) from the convention center, on maybe 12th street?

I'm not much a fan of graffiti but it sounded like a pretty ballsy thing to do, to sneak into a building, rap down the side and tag it.


Trad climber
Fresno CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
From the article I read, it appears the late tagger was preparing to etch his work into the windows.


Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Apr 4, 2013 - 02:45pm PT
They like the window etching because it causes more damage. The whole window needs to be raplaced to get rid of it.

More damage = higher art, I guess.
the Fet

Apr 4, 2013 - 03:48pm PT
ôZimmerman Flew and Tyler Knew" Turk 182!

Anyone else remember that bad 80s flick?

There's some cool graffiti on the inside of the train tunnels on Donner Summit. Of course the further you go down them the better the quality. It starts as ugly tagging, but there's some good cartoons down near the end.

Someone did a cool Mario or other character (from the video games) made out of tile glued on way up high.
Off White

Tenino, WA
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
I'm not fond of tagging, but on the other hand the son of a good friend of mine engages in this lamentable hobby, and I'd be sad if he died. Its easy to be harsh about the deaths of strangers doing something we think is stupid, but really, are the negative comments in this thread any different from folks in newspaper comment sections talking about how stupid, selfish, and deserving people who die climbing are?
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