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limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Apr 3, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
It looked annoying. Getting up to the base of the fall wasn't too bad along the creek, but I didn't try to traverse along the base of the cliff. The picture I posted on the first page shows it a little bit.

I have only hiked around on my own and haven't climbed there yet so I'm sure others on this thread know more than I do about the approach to "the upside down boot"

I've been eating poison oak to try to get immune, if that works I'll be all over patterson bluff this season! (or in the hospital, TBD)
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Apr 3, 2013 - 04:03pm PT
I've been eating poison oak to try to get immune, if that works

Usually repeated exposures, including eating it, will just yield worse immune reactions the next time. Eventually you get very bad swelling and need to get steriods to reduce it. Eating it may get you some exposure on the anus when it ejects....

Urushiol is a toxin (and irritant) which binds to your skin. Your skin forms the blisters to push the contaminated skin away from the tender layers underneath. Only way to stop the blisters is to dissolve the urushiol with Technu or soap/water, within the first few hours of exposure.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Apr 3, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
Sorry, thread drift...

Correct on all accounts, which is why I haven't had the courage to try it since I first heard of people eating it years ago. I've learned everything there is to learn about PO and am pretty much just desperate.

There are studies on allergies where gradually increasing exposure to allergens in tiny amounts over time trains the immune system to "get used to it" (i.e. allergy shots). I'm basically trying to mimic those studies to see if it helps. Some claim it has helped them, some claim it hasn't, but there are only anecdotal references and no peer reviewed studies on eating the stuff so I'm giving it a shot by making pill capsules with tiny bits of PO leaves.

It's probably just as dumb as it sounds, but three weeks in (and three leaves later) and at least it hasn't hurt? If it works I'll let the taco know, if it doesn't and I die you'll never hear from me again.


Back on topic-

Clint: thanks again for the work on organizing all this info into that new thread!
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Apr 3, 2013 - 04:48pm PT
Cool - glad to hear you are well informed about poison oak!
I hope you find something that helps.
DaveyTree

Trad climber
Fresno
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 06:45pm PT
I was one of those who needed steroids. Had like 5 different shots and all kinds of meds. When I showed the doctor how bad it was he actually backed out of the room....hahaha. Crab, I hope you live long enough for us to climb.

I did have a phone number which I have now lost, stupid phone dump, that was from an ad which said it was a holistic cure. It was a three week program which was supposed to make you immune. It advised it was to be taken during the off season during the winter months. If I can find it I will post it up.

Ckint, thanks for the new thread. I didn't know about the 10 day thing.
DaveyTree

Trad climber
Fresno
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 08:11pm PT
Let's see how these came out
Credit: DaveyTree
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Credit: DaveyTree
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DaveyTree

Trad climber
Fresno
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
Credit: DaveyTree
Credit: DaveyTree
DaveyTree

Trad climber
Fresno
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 08:16pm PT
Credit: DaveyTree
Credit: DaveyTree
DaveyTree

Trad climber
Fresno
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 08:18pm PT
Credit: DaveyTree
Credit: DaveyTree

That's all the topos I have folks. Thought I had a few more. Someone has to have the others.....
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Apr 3, 2013 - 08:43pm PT
Davey - very nice!
Here are rotated / slightly cleaned up versions which I'll link to the route list:
Patterson Bluff - 50 lbs of Crack topo &#40;1 of 2&#41;
Patterson Bluff - 50 lbs of Crack topo (1 of 2)
Credit: Ron Felton / DaveyTree
Patterson Bluff - 50 lbs of Crack topo &#40;2 of 2&#41;
Patterson Bluff - 50 lbs of Crack topo (2 of 2)
Credit: Ron Felton / DaveyTree
Patterson Bluff - Some Assembly Required topo
Patterson Bluff - Some Assembly Required topo
Credit: Dave Nettle / DaveyTree
Patterson Bluff - Ten topo <br/>
Also, partial topo for The Face That Laun...
Patterson Bluff - Ten topo
Also, partial topo for The Face That Launched 1000 Clips
Credit: Richard Leversee / DaveyTree
DaveyTree

Trad climber
Fresno
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 3, 2013 - 08:46pm PT
Tks Clint, My phone keeps posting sideways.
Paul Martzen

Trad climber
Fresno
Apr 4, 2013 - 09:33am PT
Hey Crab,

pretty sure you can't develop immunity to poison oak while you already have a reaction. It has to be in the off season long after your last reaction.

Hiking up to the base of Patterson Falls is a good adventure in itself. It is mostly on clean slabs, but there is probably some vegetation to deal with. Been a long time for me, so I can't remember exactly. From near the base of the falls, some serious bushwacking is unavoidable, but it is a fairly short distance till you can reach rocks or slabs and then find short clearings separating shorter sections of bushwacking. Once you are near the apron, the hiking along the base was fairly easy. A small team with pruning shears and saws could make a reasonably clear trail in a few hours. One hard part is just trying to see where the best route will be from down in the streambed.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 4, 2013 - 09:42am PT
"We're in a sea of poison oak! I hope I'm one of the ones that is immune to it!" Foreshadowing words from Linda, 2010.....
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
I sent an email to Dave Nettle last night, and he already replied with a great bunch of original topos and maps! Also, Scott Thelen sent me some more details on Under the Knife.
So I updated the route list again, with links to Dave's topos:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2106135/Patterson-Bluff-online-guide

Here are the topos and maps Dave sent, so you can see the whole group.
His topo for Eleven has gone missing, though.
Perhaps Paul has a copy in his stash of notes?
Patterson Bluff Left - Road Approach Map / Directions
Patterson Bluff Left - Road Approach Map / Directions
Credit: Dave Nettle
Patterson Bluff Left - trail map and select route locations
Patterson Bluff Left - trail map and select route locations
Credit: Dave Nettle
Patterson Bluff Left - overview map - all route locations
Patterson Bluff Left - overview map - all route locations
Credit: Dave Nettle
Patterson Bluff Left - The Way of the Dragon - beta
Patterson Bluff Left - The Way of the Dragon - beta
Credit: Dave Nettle
Patterson Bluff Left - The Way of the Dragon - topo
Patterson Bluff Left - The Way of the Dragon - topo
Credit: Dave Nettle
Patterson Bluff Left - Some Assembly Required
Patterson Bluff Left - Some Assembly Required
Credit: Dave Nettle
Patterson Bluff Left - Under the Gun
Patterson Bluff Left - Under the Gun
Credit: Dave Nettle
Patterson Bluff Left - Some Restrictions Apply
Patterson Bluff Left - Some Restrictions Apply
Credit: Dave Nettle
Patterson Bluff Left - The Face That Launched 1000 Clips
Patterson Bluff Left - The Face That Launched 1000 Clips
Credit: Richard Leversee ?
Patterson Bluff Left - La Cara Perfecta &#40;Ten&#41;
Patterson Bluff Left - La Cara Perfecta (Ten)
Credit: Dave Nettle
micronut

Trad climber
Apr 4, 2013 - 04:56pm PT
This thread is pure gold fellas. Thanks for all the contributions so far. I grew up just off Piedra rd and my childhood was spent up in them parts crawdaddin at Kirch Flat, catchin hog sized browns at Black Rock and even climbing at Patterson a couple times in my early climbing career. Aske me about trying to climb JCA's Wide World of Sports, as teenageres, with a set of borrowed bongs and angles (lent by an old big wall vet) cause we saw that awesome photo of it in the Patagonia catalog.

We were 5.7 climbers. Got about 11 feet off the ground and got two months of roadburn and poison oak.

Anybody got a shot of that old photo?

great swimmin holes around there too!
great swimmin holes around there too!
Credit: micronut
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:04pm PT
Proud effort Micro!! Nice!
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 05:18pm PT
Anybody got a shot of that old photo?
Yeah, it has been discussed on some of the threads linked.
Credit: Jaybro

This one's pretty good, too:
mike a.

Sport climber
ca
Apr 4, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
Hi thanks sooo much on all that beta, my friend kent has been talking about ten for years, i am for sure this season going to petterson and check it out from the top, and not battle all that po and goat trail stuff,this map to ross crossing road looks great! once again thanks a ton for all the info, cheers mikea.
photo not found
Missing photo ID#297356
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Apr 4, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
Cool, Mike.
I just added a google maps version of Dave's map from Shaver Lake to the top of Patterson Left, to see a scaled version:
google map Shaver Lake to top of Patterson Left
The google version makes one detour east/west instead of going south from "(B)" and across the creek; not sure what is going on there.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Apr 9, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
Ok... One time I took the Wife and Kids to Courtwright for a week of fun, I think they had fun. Anyway we took a little detour on the way home, one that Mark Powell himself said is a fun little drive, down the Kings Canyon.

This was the first big cliff to come into view, as we drove down in the direction of BLACK ROCK RES. This might have been below BR or about the same distance down canyon. It has been a long time.

Two views of same cliff. <br/>
Kings Canyan
Two views of same cliff.
Kings Canyan
Credit: guyman

Any ideas??

At first I thought it was the formation named "Black Rock Dome" in Clint's new guide, but from the photos that are posted I can't tell.
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